Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
On 8/27/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crow T. Robot wrote: What's wrong with asking for a minimum of a bachelors in a technical field? I thought that was a pretty common requirement... Well, I haven't seen it much, but then again, I don't have one, so perhaps I just subconsciously passed them over. :) IMHO, asking for a degree for a programmer is not worth anything. If you are 30 or older, what they were teaching in school when you were 20 isn't what is in use now. I mean, When was the last time you programed an app in fortran? I mean, the only thing your degree shows at that point is that you had rich parents who paid for your college, you worked your way through college (and therefore, probably scraped by) or you took out a student loan (and are probably now in debt from it). I realize a college degree is important in some fields. Doctors, Lawyers, Scientists, etc. Not a fast changing field like computer programing. that's silly. A college degree contains much more than what you are narrowly shoe-boxing it to be. For one, you learn several other subjects. These give you opportunities to view how others solve problems in various other corners of life social, technical, artistic, etc. Further more these studies teach you the the basic vocabulary these areas use to communicate. Now to address the specific computer classes you might take, yes the fast changing world of computers yields new languages, but that's just syntax. What you really learn, or should be learning, is semantics, eh? It doesn't matter if its Fortran or C, a loop is a loop and that is not changing. Speaking of loops, do you commonly use O(n^2) approaches? AKA 'Big OH' notation, this is the kind of topic covered in CS programs that exposes you to the performance of algorithms, independent of language of course. That said, you can certainly learn all these things OTJ or as a hobby, but I wouldn't just wave aside this knowledge. Heck, a few world famous Mathematicians were actually hobbyists, Fermat for example. DK But that's just me. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3416 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Sr. ColdFusion Software Engineer Needed - Charlotte, NC
On 8/27/07, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffry Houser wrote: Bryan Stevenson wrote: Going to school for a degree just means jumping through hoops and paying way too much for it to me. I believe a lot of people go to college w/o a focus, and that I spaced. Going to college w/o a focus seems like a waste of time / energy / money. I wouldn't recommend it. But, if you have agood idea of why you're going, go for it. I'd say go to gain focus. Yes, it costs some money, but sure is cheaper then wasting years in dead-end jobs trying to find something you like. In one year you can be exposed to 1/2 dozen disciplines and get a idea of just what goes on there. You really need enough discipline to hang in there those first two years, though eh? Actually, if I may Jeff, I will reword your comment to be 'Going to college without some focus' is a waste. You can figure out A focus once there. Thus I should have opened with I'd say go to gain A focus. I have only one regret in life myself, that's dropping out of college only to return later because I lacked this focus, or discipline if you will. When I returned as one of those older students, I was CONSIDERABLY more focused, yet it still took 2 FT school years to get A focus. In fact, try grad school, things are different there for sure. This thought brings me back to Philip's comments. What about Comp Sci professors? Should we just dismantle that field since all you need to do is work in a 'real-life' job to learn what you need? A majority of them got their PhDs over 10 years ago, so not much for them to know? I suppose its a matter of perspective, look outside that web-developer box and you will see things differently perhaps. DK -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur, Software Developer, Author, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Podcast: http://www.theflexshow.com My Blog: http://www.jeffryhouser.com ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3439 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: kinetexhr
http://www.kinetixhr.com/ is the correct URL. drat, silly spelling on my part. DK On 6/13/07, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone here ever work with kinetexhr.com? Can you reply of list if so? Thanks! -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? -- Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3360 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Fwd: CF Contracting Specialists Available
Ok, I'm far from the religious type, but the name of this consulting firm caught my eye. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan I suppose they have not hired a marketeering firm yet, eh? DK -- Forwarded message -- From: Gottleib Engels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sep 1, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: CF Contracting Specialists Available To: CF-Jobs cf-jobs@houseoffusion.com Contact Leviathan Media, (877) 455-9109 . We have several certified Cold Fusion Developers available to work now. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:3122 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Jobs-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: recruiters and candidate marketing
yeah, susan? Well, now that we see your photo in CFDJ, certainly know you are male :) DK On 3/8/06, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan's a new one. ;) At 09:39 AM 3/8/2006, you wrote: Thanks Cutter! :) S. Isaac, Whaddayagobyanyway? isaac ike try coyote susan Take your pick. :) s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2909 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF opportunities - Atlanta - GA - Alpharetta area
great, just what we need another migration from NY/NJ. Ha, just kidding. Welcome to hotlanta. Check out acfug.org, the CF user group here, the site has a jobs link. There are a few opps around here. Two recently I have heard of, one of which is with UPS...i posted below. The other was posted on CF-Jobs. HTH Cold Fusion Programmer Analyst Minimum Requirements: - A Bachelor's degree in Computer Science, MIS or a related discipline. - 4 -6 years of experience in systems analysis, applications development and systems architecture. - A minimum 3+ years of T-SQL experience: performance tuning, stored procedures, triggers - 4 years technical expertise in web applications development in Cold Fusion. - Expertise in web technologies: HTML, JavaScript, CSS2 and Source Control software (Source Safe, PVCS) - Experience in custom tags, IFrames, performance optimization, file manipulation, exception handling, CF components - Advanced CF database integration: CFStoredProc, Query of Query (QoQ) - Understanding of Web/CF administration setup and optimization - Significant experience in the following technologies a PLUS: ASP, ..NET, Fuse Box, Delphi, C++ or VB Degree Preferred: Bachelors Majors Preferred: Computer Science, Mgmt. Information Systems Job Description: The Programmer Analyst will assist in the full life cycle of various UPS web-based applications. This includes development of business requirements and program specs; database design and implementation; creation and maintenance of database and web applications; the ability to develop, execute, and analyze test plans; as well as being able to develop in a RAD environment while taking ownership of various processes and procedures. Other Criteria: Employer will not sponsor visas for position. There is no relocation available for this position. Available for Atlanta, GA (area) based candidates only. UPS is an Equal Opportunity Employer, m/f/d/v. Genevieve Ellison Workforce Planning United Parcel Service www.upsjobs.com On 2/17/06, cee tee eye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Planning to move to Atlanta, GA from NJ. Have about 5+ yrs in CF - have team lead experience too. How are the opportunities/trends? Should I be apprehensive about the job market there - or anything in general to look out/watch out for? Any feedback will be much appreciated - Thanks in advance. c ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2896 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 2006 Turn Around?
ugh, this is cf-jobs-talk'talk' indicating talking about cf-jobs. Post actual jobs on cf-jobs. DK On 11 Jan 2006 16:44:19 -0500, Michael Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps this should be moved off of CF Jobs. A lot of people using this list have positions they are recruiting for but if there is no intent to post a particular job but rather, for someone to just build and gather a pool of candidates in case a job comes up, it seems like a violation of the spirit of the list. If you have a specific job your recruiting for post it. If you just want people to know your company has jobs throughout the Country and your trying to stock pile.come on. Incidentally I have A p[position I am recruiting for in the North DC suburbs. - Coldfusion Developer (MX certification/experience preferred, 5.0 or 4.5 acceptable) - Min 5+ years commercial development experience with ColdFusion - Strong database background (SQL Server 2000 preferred) - ability to write efficient SQL queries minimally, but ability to build databases good understanding of DB schema, structure, etc. preferred - HTML/DHTML, CSS and Javascript - Team player with drive and time management experience - Comfortable working in an environment filled with frequent change and challenge - High level of integrity and confidentiality - Take pride in quality workmanship and have an eye for detail - Be available for work outside of standard business hours as required - BS in Computer Science preferred Also, Require: Good Communication Skill, Ability to understand and clarify customer's requirements, especially related to search engine specification or search result deficiencies Experience with information search and retrieval, including evaluation of search results Good Java programming skills and strong object oriented design Experience creating and using XMK and XSL transforms (in Java) XHTML CSS Skills, including cross browser development with regards for accessibility Knowledge in text paring or language recognition Prefer: Medical background or experience with medical information and terminology Experience programming tag based web applications (esp. ColdFusion 6/7) Experience on UNIX (esp. Solaris) SQL programming skills Experience with Oracle and L/SQL Programming skills Experience using version control software (esp. Subversion) Kindest Regards, Michael Perlstein Vice President - Business Development AboutWeb LLC Macromedia Authorized Training Partner Microsoft Certified Solutions Provider Corporate Headquarters 6177 Executive Blvd Rockville, MD 20852 GSA #GS35F0367L 301.468.9246 x154 (Office) 703-869-6086 (Mobile) 301.468.9670 (Fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AboutWeb.com -Original Message- From:Burchett, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Jobs-Talk ; Sent: Jan 11, 2006 04:06:27 PM Subject: RE: 2006 Turn Around? Speaking of more opportunities...I am looking to fill multiple positions for several dynamic clients here in the Charlotte, NC area. Aquent is an international firm looking to fill positions all over the world however, these particular positions happen to be in Charlotte. I have clients looking for solid CF developers on several levels. If you are interested in a permanent position in this great city, please contact me at the number below. You can also email me back if you wish. Of course it goes without saying, I would really appreciate any referrals if you happen to know some good CF developers who may not see this email. I have multiple positions to fill so the more response, the better. Regards, Mike Burchett Charlotte-IT Branch Manager ___ AQUENT 2815 Coliseum Centre Drive, Suite 230 | Charlotte, NC 28217 | 704.338.9119 X3015 800.479.9119 Toll Free 704.338.9185 Fax | Aquent is a global professional services firm that integrates people, process and technology to deliver business results through staffing, outsourcing and consulting -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:03 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: 2006 Turn Around? On 1/5/06, Jeff Gombala wrote: I haven't noticed more postings, other than my own, but I do know from experience that there aren't many (if any) qualified developers avaliable for hire in the Atlanta area. Who knows, I might have posted in all the wrong areas. Atlanta's a tight market. Alot of good people there, but also a ton of CF work to be done. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2817 Archives:
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
with oracle vernacular the word is sequence. Just perform a query to return the next value in the sequence, then use it in your inserts. SELECT seqname.next_val as newid FROM dual INSERT INTO tablefoo (id, goo) VALUES (newid, 'soem stuff') DK On 5/12/05, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That syntax is not even valid for all databases. An example I am thinking of is how to return the identity when using Oracle. I know the syntax to use if just in a SQL client, tried it with a couple of versions of DB drivers with CF and never had it work. Of course it could simple just be done with an SP, which is what I do anyway. CFLOCKing two queries together? Wouldn't that be CFTRANSACTIONing the two queries together? Wish we had DBAs that could review our SP's to see if things could be improved. :( On 5/12/05, Glenn Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has sometimes worked in the past: declare @new_id INT insert into table (a, b) values ('#a#', '#b#' select @new_id as new_id It depends on the DB driver. I've had this sometimes work and sometimes not work. It's almost like the driver (or CF) says oh, this is an insert, you don't need any data back and throws out the data. Using a 2nd query to get the identity is not reliable without CFLOCKing the two queries together and it's not as efficient. One thing I wish CFQUERY could do is return multiple recordsets and output parameters back. In PHP you can do this. Just curious, not implying anything wrong with it one bit, but what are your reasonings for using almost all SPs for your DB work? Because it's faster in heavy-load environments and it provides a central clearing house for db code that the dbas can (presumably) analyze and improve. It also lets you restrict direct access to tables, just granting EXEC permissions on a proc by proc basis after proper review. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2619 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: What makes a programmer look low level
there is no need at all to lock anything. Once you get the nextval from the sequence, it is yours to keep. Another thread, request, user what have you will get a differnt value guarnteed. You will have to use two queries to return the value though, but again, no locking is needed. DK On 5/12/05, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is SEQNAME.NEXTVAL in Oracle and I'd like to see how you get that to work in a single CFQUERY that returns NEWID to the CFM page. Using two CFQUERies would at least avoid the need to lock anything. On 5/12/05, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with oracle vernacular the word is sequence. Just perform a query to return the next value in the sequence, then use it in your inserts. SELECT seqname.next_val as newid FROM dual INSERT INTO tablefoo (id, goo) VALUES (newid, 'soem stuff') DK ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2623 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?
ditto from me. I have been doing CF for over 5 years now in my company and every team I have been on has absolutely no code review, code standards, versioning, etc. I've struggled constantly to get them employedwait until I'm in charge! LOL! I recently had to 'mentor' two noobs in CF. Neither of them knows what an object is let alone a CFC or getters/setters. And yes, they require actual training to scribble down 'SELECT * FROM table' it seems. One thing I have noticed is that since CF is considered a RAD tool, we tend to get projects that are short-lived, small, mediocre complexity, etc. And the business, or customers, want results yesterday. All these combine into fast written ugly code. In my company the big enterprise type projects go to the J2EE world. DK On 4/30/05, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely put; I agree. Most of the coders in my environment could care less if cfif #bob# EQ Glenn is bad code (simplistic example but gives an idea). And yes in our workplace CF has definetely taken the 2nd class rate. It is very frustrating having programers that have not only ever heard of getters and setters but want to have a training session on how to use themYou set then you get...this is also a product of still being stuck in the 90's with CF5, not that the 90's were bad mind you! Code reivews are sparse if at all. I was just helping a co-worker with a problem the other day and noticed while he was using cfqueryparam in Where clause he was not in the INSERT statementwhy? no one ever told him to use them there and the examples he saw were for select statements. So his code will go into production wrong then the next person will come along use his codebase as examples and viola the bad coding proliferates. This is the case in any programming language, or any learned practice, but it tends to be very wide spread in CF for the exact reasons you mentioned. Adam H On 4/30/05, Glenn Saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:49 PM 4/29/2005, you wrote: I also think part of this is that there isn't enough supervision in places that use CF so that bad habits predominate. For instance, rarely have I ever interviewed someone who didn't write code like this: CFSET a = #b# or CFSET a = #b# Obviously, CF is part of the problem for being so forgiving, but there is a lack of a serious engineering mindset in the CF world. The people who are employing coders who write the above don't care because the applications still work. They don't care how elegant the codebase is or whether it's a Rube Golberg device as long as it works. So nobody forces them to change. They spin their wheels for a couple years until they get layed off or something and they walk into a job interview with 2-3 years of CF listed on their resume and they are still chock full of bad coding habits!! The CF culture brings in people from non-engineering backgrounds, ex Flash animators, designers who are doing double-duty. People who cracked open the Forta book and learned enough to get by on the job and don't necessarily have the drive to improve their code because their passions really lie elsewhere. And that's how this culture evolved. That's why CF coders are treated like 2nd class citizens. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2497 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Where are all the mid-level CF developers?
On 4/29/05, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I mentioned this before on this list, but... Ben Forta mentioned (at Powered by Detroit) that one of the biggest recruiting firms in the US doesn't put CF in the job description when looking for CF Developers. They look for Java Developers. ( This is all paraphrased, of course ). But, these are enterprise level companies who use Java in the backend and CF for front end stuff / middleware. The reasoning for this is similar to what Simon said below. CF Developer's write bad code. I think the reason for this is that many CF Developers are not programmers by trade. They do what it takes to get the job done, without thought to maintenance, re-use, structure, etc.. I'm working on one app now, which has (for example)... templates with ~2,500 lines of code, only one line of documentation (which says begin and offers no more explanation) and very long lines (for example, an if statement with 5 else conditions written out on a single line ). Formatted w/ an eye for readability I'm sure the template would double in size. That and 50+ queries in one CF page, some of which are repeated. Worst code I have ever seen bar none. DK At 04:10 PM 4/29/2005, you wrote: at the risk of being publicly yelled at, I'll also say that in my experience, the quality of work of most CF Developers isn't deserving of a high salary. That's not to say that there aren't Java developers who write poor code, but Java pretty much forces you to use good coding techniques moreso than CF. CF makes it easy to write bad code. That's not a bad thing, unless people choose to take the easy route and write bad code (whch many do). There's no reason why a CF developer that's building complex enterprise applications shouldn't be earning as much as a java developer building complex enterprise applications, provided they're both competent. To be honest, most Java developers are more competent with specific parts of java rather than all of java - there are too many APIs and core classes to master all of them. An expert CF Developer is really worth more than an expert java developer in my opinion because they have complete mastery of their environment as opposed to mastery of part and competence in the rest. Just an observation I've had (and I've worked with A LOT of Java developers). ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Daniel Kang wrote: If the CF developer does all thing (database design, application design, coding, testing, etc), how much is he/she going to be paid in, let's say, downtown NY? Are we understood that 50K in downtown NY is for CF developers who are doing only coding??? Daniel On 4/29/05, Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they don't always get paid less but more often than not, they do. This is probably because the majority of the tasks performed by CF Developers are the kinds of things that don't require you to be a competent architect, programmer, or even tester. ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Daniel Kang wrote: The fundamental question is why CF developers get paid less than others?? Perhaps, I need to switch to the Java arena! Daniel On 4/29/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if I wanted to pay $60-70k I could easily hire a very senior developers (which seem to be easier to find too!). A mid level J2EE developer makes 100K+ easy in SF where the cost of living is less than in NY... where do you think all the CF developers went? I am a senior developer and I find 60K rather insulting - Fast food restaurant managers make more than that. If you can get a senior developer for 60K I'd say grab him/her. (PS not to start an up roar - look at the cost of living in your area before you start demanding higher salary) -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2498 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription:
Re: which one of these things is not like the other...
a former professor of mine once said...the difference between a graduate student and a undergraduate student is the graduate student knows where to look things up. D On Apr 9, 2005 9:38 AM, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THe one I took for my employeer (the one I liked) was open book. Your only restriction was you could not ask another person directly each question gave you 45 seconds if I recall and you could take a break once I think. I don't recall the # of questions but without break I remeber the test taking atleast 30 minutes and I didn't take near 30 seconds on a lot of them...They had quite a few here is a block of code what will the result of variable X be...or here is a block of code what is wrong. Adam H On Apr 8, 2005 6:37 PM, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why I've felt a good open book test is better, a good developer should be able to look up these kinds of details in a minute or two. A poser, who doesn't even understand the question, would have a much harder time, especially under a time limit. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org http://www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:30 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: which one of these things is not like the other... The best answer to most of these questions is livedocs. A good developer knows how to solve problems and find answers, not how to memorize every useless little attribute of every tag in the book. I'll hire someone how participates in the community and knows how to find the answer before someone who's memorised a book any day of the week. -Cameron Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2408 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: best it staffing firms in atlanta, ga
hmm, I usually peek at http://www.atlanta.computerjobs.com/job_results.aspx?s_jcid=106s_jsid=267 for how the CF market is in ATL, not so good looking lately. Are there other job sites with better info? Cameron, you are in ATL? Didn't know they allowed sumo in the good old boy country GA! hehe! D On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:56:39 -0800, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Atlanta has always been a great market for skilled developers. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress Sumo Consulting Inc http://www.sumoc.com --- cell: 678.637.5072 aim: cameroncf email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:54:42 -0500, Burchett, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Mike: I am biased but Aquent is a good firm in Atlanta. You should ask for a recruiter named Becky Grams. She is very good and if they have anything in the way of ColdFusion she will be able to get you in for it. To be honest I don't know what the market is for CF in ATL but if there is anything to be found, she will do her best to find it. Regards, Mike Burchett _ Mike Burchett Charlotte Branch Manager | AQUENT 2815 Coliseum Centre Drive, Suite 230 | Charlotte, NC 28217 | 704.338.9119 X3015 800.479.9119 Toll Free 704.338.9185 Fax | http://www.aquent.com/ Aquent is a global professional services firm that integrates people, process and technology to deliver business results through staffing, outsourcing and consulting -Original Message- From: Michael Firth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:07 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: best it staffing firms in atlanta, ga Hi all, I just wanted to find out from everybody who works in atlanta, ga what firms have you found in helping you find a good job in atlanta ga, because I am moving back within the next few days. I also using the top search jobs to assist in my search. Been a while away from atlanta so if anybody can offer any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike Firth ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2342 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54