RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
I've been seeing a sharp increase in NY area jobs which is great. Problem is, because most of the CF in the area has been 'hidden' for the last 4 years most of the programmers are either taken or just not present. I'm working on getting some programmers from my area and giving them some of my 10 years CF experience to get them into these jobs. I'll see if I can get someone for you. I'd think about taking it but I don't want to travel to NJ every day (I'm in Brooklyn). I do consult and teach though (and have a security clearance from my federal reserve days). :) Well - with all the CF Developers out there that are looking for work; I haven't been able to find too many in NJ. We have been looking for a CF Developer to join our company on a full-time permanent basis here in Eatontown, NJ. Haven't had much luck. If you or anyone you know that is an advanced CF Developer with experience using CF 5.0, CM MX, Fusebox, etc., please contact me immediately at 732- 544-8454 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Must be a US citizen - as our position requires obtaining a security clearance. We can offer a stable environment, with no worries of off shoring. We are a growing company, and offer competitive salaries, comprehensive benefits package to include 401(k), profit sharing, bonus program, tuition reimbursement, medical/dental/life, and other perks. Looking desperately for a Senior CF Developer ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2190 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
Amazing how time flies, I had to sit here and think for a second as to when CF came out. We were one of Allaire's first customers for the product, for some reason I was thinking it had only been 7-8 years ago, but alas math is not my strong point(well this morning at least) because been at least 9 and betting it has been 10 as well. On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:58:17 -0500, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my 10 years CF experience -- Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2191 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
Official release was July of 95 with a beta before that. That's officially 9.5 years and a max of 10 or 10.5 for those on the beta. I didn't get in until the end of the beta so it's not a full 10 years for me yet. But yeh, it's been a long time. Amazing how time flies, I had to sit here and think for a second as to when CF came out. We were one of Allaire's first customers for the product, for some reason I was thinking it had only been 7-8 years ago, but alas math is not my strong point(well this morning at least) because been at least 9 and betting it has been 10 as well. On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:58:17 -0500, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my 10 years CF experience -- Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2192 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
At 11:27 AM 1/21/2005, you wrote: But back to the thread, I think I'm going to start mentoring programmers from my community in CF and send them to some of these jobs. They have well over 10 years software experience so picking up CF should be easy. Add in my knowledge of it and they'll have the equivalent of 3 years in as many months. Maybe get a mentor's cut and not have to work full time. Oh, that sounds good. Maybe even get a company to sponsor me for a bit while I get them some top people. Getting better and better. Start your own firm. If you can place 10 people for $50 an hour, pay them $40 an hour, then you're making $100 an hour just making sure that they are on track. I know it's easier said than done. For the record, there are currently 4 CF-related positions in Connecticut on Dice.com. More than I've ever seen at one time. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2200 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
sounds like a candidate for eBay, Mike ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Michael Dinowitz wrote: I still have the floppies (3) and the one from forums (1). Damn, I have to clean up. :) mine is stapled... CF 1 on a floppy. Yes, the good old days indeed. I miss picking up the phone and talking with Jeremy from his garage ;) ~Simon ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2201 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
At 06:03 PM 1/20/2005, you wrote: I've recently been canned in a merger due to reasons pertaining to not getting up to speed with DotNet quick enough (company will no longer be using Cold Fusion, which I am at Advanced level of development), and stated they can find expert level DotNet developers overseas (where majority of programming has gone the past two years) far cheaper than the American programmer. Kinda un-patriotic, but for a lot of captialistic companies it seems to be the way things are going. Anyway ... I start a new IT related job next week at a 7% increase in pay. That is fantastic. Congrats on the new job. What I am curious about is have your lost your job recently to: 1) cheap foreigner labor? I own my own company, so theoretically I'll never lose a job. On the other hand, if I don't have clients I'll be in rough shape. I have lost 1 contract to an off-shore vendor. I have lost 1 contract to a bid so low that I believe it may have been an off-shore vendor. On the other hand, I was the competitor trying to steal away client A, so the job could have been bid so low as to get me out of the picture (it worked). I've lost at least two contracts based on price in the past 6 months. In both cases, I suspect the competitors were not off-shore. 2) company alienating Cold Fusion because they've gotten the bug w/regard to all the buzzwords circling around w/regard to DotNet (not knocking DotNet ... is pretty cool - in one year with small number of projects I've become quite good, but not expert level). There are so few companies around here using CF... Lastly - even though I have a new job, which will be with small non-political company versus large political company, I'm a little depressed. I think my depression stems from the fact that I worked my ass off for the company that canned me (60-80 weeks at times ... many all-nighters), have varying skill-sets w/regard to server management, programming, outsourcing management, hardware/software t-shooting. This ever happen to you? Sort of. It is expected by a company that you're going to bust your butt to do what needs to be done. It is unfortunate. I actually burnt out and left that company. I didn't know I was burnt out until I looked back in retrospect. The lead developer at one of my clients was not born / raised in America (although he has been here for quite a while now). He said he is amazed the whole system doesn't full apart, since the workers have no loyalty to the company and the company has no loyalty to the workers. Yes, he was generalizing, but I think that is true to form. -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com My Energetic Acoustic Rock Band: http://www.farcryfly.com -- When did Reality Become TV ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2185 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
Yeah, I've been there. I got laid from a 30 person (6 developer) company off at the end of August; I was a Sr. CF Programmer, lead UI guy, backup to the sysadmin and on alternating thursdays I played Banjo in the band. Turns out they were sold but hadn't made the news public, they were trying to make the balance sheet look as good as possible so they laid off some people. We did lots of high-volume CF stuff. It pissed me off; after 10 years in the industry, this was the first time I was the one being laid off. Fortunately, I'm realistic enough to be able to look at myself and ask realistic questions. Such as, Would I hire a 45 year old me? (I'm 38 now). So, a couple of years ago I went back to work on an M.Ed. so that I could teach high school English. That's what I did to turn a depressing revelation (the answer to the question I asked myself) into a real plan that will take me for the next 30 years of this journey called life. The downside is, I was unemployed for over 4 months. I only recently landed a job with a small company rewriting a critical internal app, which should be an 8 or 9 month project...at the end of the project, I'll be ready to student teach, and then I can segue into a new (and hopefully final, I can't see them offshoring teachers, and it's one of those few careers where age and experience is an asset) career. Anyway, yes, the state of the tech industry is depressing. I'm a tech guy, I love technology, I love building web sites. Fortunately, I also like planning ahead. There will always be offshoring, and soon enough, jobs will be being offshored from India to the next tech-savvy but cheap labor force. There will always be new buzzwords that the IT and development managers of the world will be chasing, believing them to be the next big thing. Me? I guess I've grown weary of it all. Good on ya', mate, for getting a new gig. They are definitely fewer and farther between. Pete ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2186 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
Well - with all the CF Developers out there that are looking for work; I haven't been able to find too many in NJ. We have been looking for a CF Developer to join our company on a full-time permanent basis here in Eatontown, NJ. Haven't had much luck. If you or anyone you know that is an advanced CF Developer with experience using CF 5.0, CM MX, Fusebox, etc., please contact me immediately at 732-544-8454 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Must be a US citizen - as our position requires obtaining a security clearance. We can offer a stable environment, with no worries of off shoring. We are a growing company, and offer competitive salaries, comprehensive benefits package to include 401(k), profit sharing, bonus program, tuition reimbursement, medical/dental/life, and other perks. Looking desperately for a Senior CF Developer ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2187 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
The position I just mentioned does not require long hours - typically, our Developers work about 40 hours per week - we believe in a life outside of work. So, please do contact me for additional information if you are an advanced CF Developer! 732-544-8454; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charlotte Griffin Human Resources Manager Viatech, Inc. www.viatechinc.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2188 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain
The position I just mentioned does not require long hours - typically, our Developers work about 40 hours per week - we believe in a life outside of work. So, please do contact me for additional information if you are an advanced CF Developer! 732-544-8454; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charlotte Griffin Human Resources Manager Viatech, Inc. www.viatechinc.com I'm currently working for a company in Ft Lauderdale, although I always like to keep my options open in the event of the unforseen, particularly with the instability in our industry in the past few years. I'd be curious to know more about the job. Thanks Charlotte, s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com ~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2189 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
