Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents
The current contract I am on they are marking me up 120% to the client on a 1099 contract. I've never seen one markup 300% but it wouldn't surprise me, especially if the agency is withholding taxes or providing any kind of beenies. On 1/19/06, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of interest, does anyone know what percentage the agency takes from/adds to the rate? I know of one guy who wanted to charge the end client nearly 300% of the rate. That can't be normal can it? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2849 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents
A quick question for any recruitment agents on this list(or anyone else who knows). Twice in the passed year I've started a dialog with a recruitment agent, only for them to go quite and not tell me that I didn't get an interview. How hard would it be for them to have sent a quick email saying, they weren't interested? I understand that this might lead to another email asking why etc, but I'd rather THAT second email was ignored and I knew I didn't get an interview so you can move on and make other plans. Surely it's just common courtesy, or am I missing something? Adrian It's become unfortunately common for companies to not send rejection letters, emails, etc... just what I've experienced and heard from others, so you're not alone in thinking it's discourteous. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2843 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: A Question For Recruitment Agents
Companies I can understand. But agents? If they can take my email address and send automated emails for other potential jobs, why can't they do the same with rejections? In my eyes it doesn't do their already tarnished reputations any good. I read a piece in the BCS (British Computer Society) magazine, saying there should be a code of conduct for agents, one that includes letting candidates know, in a timely manor, about rejections. I tend to agree. Having said all that, I meant to tell someone yesterday that I won't be able to do some work for them because I don't have the time. Oppps! Adrian -Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2006 00:02 To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents A quick question for any recruitment agents on this list(or anyone else who knows). Twice in the passed year I've started a dialog with a recruitment agent, only for them to go quite and not tell me that I didn't get an interview. How hard would it be for them to have sent a quick email saying, they weren't interested? I understand that this might lead to another email asking why etc, but I'd rather THAT second email was ignored and I knew I didn't get an interview so you can move on and make other plans. Surely it's just common courtesy, or am I missing something? Adrian It's become unfortunately common for companies to not send rejection letters, emails, etc... just what I've experienced and heard from others, so you're not alone in thinking it's discourteous. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2844 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents
I've had that happen too. I don't deal with them anymore if I can avoid it. Agents now-a-days seem to think we (developers, DBAs, whatever it is they're looking for) are not people. I've had one go quiet for months. then email me again not remembering our previous contact. I had another ask me the same questions he asked in an earlier conversation from THAT DAY!! The industry of head hunting/recruiting has gone downhill a lot. On 1/19/06, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Companies I can understand. But agents? If they can take my email address and send automated emails for other potential jobs, why can't they do the same with rejections? In my eyes it doesn't do their already tarnished reputations any good. I read a piece in the BCS (British Computer Society) magazine, saying there should be a code of conduct for agents, one that includes letting candidates know, in a timely manor, about rejections. I tend to agree. Having said all that, I meant to tell someone yesterday that I won't be able to do some work for them because I don't have the time. Oppps! Adrian -Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2006 00:02 To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents A quick question for any recruitment agents on this list(or anyone else who knows). Twice in the passed year I've started a dialog with a recruitment agent, only for them to go quite and not tell me that I didn't get an interview. How hard would it be for them to have sent a quick email saying, they weren't interested? I understand that this might lead to another email asking why etc, but I'd rather THAT second email was ignored and I knew I didn't get an interview so you can move on and make other plans. Surely it's just common courtesy, or am I missing something? Adrian It's become unfortunately common for companies to not send rejection letters, emails, etc... just what I've experienced and heard from others, so you're not alone in thinking it's discourteous. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2845 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: A Question For Recruitment Agents
Out of interest, does anyone know what percentage the agency takes from/adds to the rate? I know of one guy who wanted to charge the end client nearly 300% of the rate. That can't be normal can it? -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2006 00:46 To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents I've had that happen too. I don't deal with them anymore if I can avoid it. Agents now-a-days seem to think we (developers, DBAs, whatever it is they're looking for) are not people. I've had one go quiet for months. then email me again not remembering our previous contact. I had another ask me the same questions he asked in an earlier conversation from THAT DAY!! The industry of head hunting/recruiting has gone downhill a lot. On 1/19/06, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Companies I can understand. But agents? If they can take my email address and send automated emails for other potential jobs, why can't they do the same with rejections? In my eyes it doesn't do their already tarnished reputations any good. I read a piece in the BCS (British Computer Society) magazine, saying there should be a code of conduct for agents, one that includes letting candidates know, in a timely manor, about rejections. I tend to agree. Having said all that, I meant to tell someone yesterday that I won't be able to do some work for them because I don't have the time. Oppps! Adrian -Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2006 00:02 To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents A quick question for any recruitment agents on this list(or anyone else who knows). Twice in the passed year I've started a dialog with a recruitment agent, only for them to go quite and not tell me that I didn't get an interview. How hard would it be for them to have sent a quick email saying, they weren't interested? I understand that this might lead to another email asking why etc, but I'd rather THAT second email was ignored and I knew I didn't get an interview so you can move on and make other plans. Surely it's just common courtesy, or am I missing something? Adrian It's become unfortunately common for companies to not send rejection letters, emails, etc... just what I've experienced and heard from others, so you're not alone in thinking it's discourteous. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2846 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: A Question For Recruitment Agents
I'm not a recruiter, but from what I can gather... If you're consulting through a firm, they are marking up at least 100%, if not more. 300% does not surprise me. w/ full time stuff, it's usually a percentage of your first year salary, which I suspect is at least 50%. They'll never tell you. One of my friends has been on both sides of the fence (He's hired people through recruiters and has found jobs through recruiters). I typically don't deal w/ recruiters anymore. At 07:55 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote: Out of interest, does anyone know what percentage the agency takes from/adds to the rate? I know of one guy who wanted to charge the end client nearly 300% of the rate. That can't be normal can it? -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2006 00:46 To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents I've had that happen too. I don't deal with them anymore if I can avoid it. Agents now-a-days seem to think we (developers, DBAs, whatever it is they're looking for) are not people. I've had one go quiet for months. then email me again not remembering our previous contact. I had another ask me the same questions he asked in an earlier conversation from THAT DAY!! The industry of head hunting/recruiting has gone downhill a lot. On 1/19/06, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Companies I can understand. But agents? If they can take my email address and send automated emails for other potential jobs, why can't they do the same with rejections? In my eyes it doesn't do their already tarnished reputations any good. I read a piece in the BCS (British Computer Society) magazine, saying there should be a code of conduct for agents, one that includes letting candidates know, in a timely manor, about rejections. I tend to agree. Having said all that, I meant to tell someone yesterday that I won't be able to do some work for them because I don't have the time. Oppps! Adrian -Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 January 2006 00:02 To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: A Question For Recruitment Agents A quick question for any recruitment agents on this list(or anyone else who knows). Twice in the passed year I've started a dialog with a recruitment agent, only for them to go quite and not tell me that I didn't get an interview. How hard would it be for them to have sent a quick email saying, they weren't interested? I understand that this might lead to another email asking why etc, but I'd rather THAT second email was ignored and I knew I didn't get an interview so you can move on and make other plans. Surely it's just common courtesy, or am I missing something? Adrian It's become unfortunately common for companies to not send rejection letters, emails, etc... just what I've experienced and heard from others, so you're not alone in thinking it's discourteous. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2847 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
