RE: Typing test for programming?
I honestly can not remember, it was 1980 with a cassette drive. A year later I had a Commodore 64, such a huge improvement, I had a floppy drive! -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Fred T. Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:28 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re: Typing test for programming? On June 1, 2005 11:16 am, Ian Skinner scribbled: such a game on my first TSR80. Was that the big grey one or were you lucky enough to get a second generation white one? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2656 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
Ian Skinner wrote: Not for me, you must have had a good cassette player. I remember taking 20-30 minutes to load a fairly simple game. The floppy could do similar much faster, by the standards I was used to. Actually, I was just being facetious. Cassettes were slower, but really that floppy drive was slow. Scott ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2659 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? That's kind of what I was thinking... that's why I didn't take any pause from the request for a typing test. Sure, a lot of companies never ask their programmers to write documentation, but imo any good programmer should be able to write decent documentation with reasonable speed. In an ideal world I suppose we might all have people hired on specifically as technical writers, but I've never worked for a company where that was the case. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2661 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
I've had to do all those things. Although, you could argue that with the use of IDEs (Dreamweaver, for example) that I write very little Straight Code. Still, despite the need for documentation and written communication I would not use a typing test to judge a programmer, because I think there are more important things. At 03:36 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote: So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2662 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
One more thought on the documentation thing Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very different skill than being able to type. If a person can type 100 words a minute while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed. At 03:36 PM 6/2/2005, you wrote: So none of you programmers ever need to write documentation for your applications? You never need to right a memo or an email? Never need to right anything other than straight code? -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2663 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
One more thought on the documentation thing Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very different skill than being able to type. If a person can type 100 words a minute while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed. This is true -- and I don't type 100wpm even when I have a copy sitting in front of me... but this also sort of assumes that, once you've decided what to write in your docs that the speed with which you compose that sentence is irrelevant... I don't think so... if you're much like any typical user I've seen with respect to the keyboard, you'll decide what to say pretty quickly, and then take 2 minutes to type what took 10 seconds to conceptualize. If on the other hand you can touch-type at something in the neighborhood of 60wpm, then you can put to paper about twice as much of your brainstorming in about half the time. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2664 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
If it's a software engineering job a typing test should be irrelevant. Interview/testing time is precious and typing speed matters not at all. Check if they have a thinking speed test! If they need to test your typing speed you know that they are not for you! So it actually is a useful indicator of how crazy some employers are. Geoffrey N. Epstein RGB Software Inc 67 Arlington St. Suite 2 Newton, MA 02458 USA ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2665 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very different skill than being able to type. If a person can type 100 words a minute while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed. A former boss of mine (a business and tech consultant, one of the smartest folks I've known) was legendary for both his typing and his ability to write long, complex, high-level documents off the top of his head. I personally know that he wrote an entire 500-page technical paper over a weekend -- one run through it, no editing or revision. Handed it into (perfectionist) production before delivery, and they made no changes. No typos, no rephrasing, no reorg, nothing. At roughly 325 words/pg, that's 162,500 words. Assuming two 12-hour days (it was probably less than that), that's about 6,770 words/hour, or about 112 wpm. While composing. He didn't do that every day, and granted, it was material he (obviously) knew really well. Still, I wish I could do that. Dave Merrill ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2666 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Typing test for programming?
HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2635 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
ASDF JKL; That's all I remember from typing -Original Message- From: Mark Holm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 11:13 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Typing test for programming? HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2636 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray Mark Holm wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2638 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
There are dozens of typing games out there that would help with basic key speed. The better ones will start with the home keys [asdf|jkl;] and as you become proficient with those, they will add progressively more keys as your skills improve. I learned to type fairly well [50-60words/min] with such a game on my first TSR80. I think even a few days with a couple of hours of practice would provide some improvement. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Mark Holm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:13 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Typing test for programming? HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2637 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=typingtg=dl-2001 Here is a bunch from ZDNet. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Mark Holm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:13 AM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Typing test for programming? HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2640 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
I got 93 words per minute with no errors on the non-Java practice test. 430 characters per minute. However, they used variation on Quick Brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs, which is pretty common in such tests (since it uses all letters of the alphabet). In the Java applet test, I was @ 70+ w/ 3 errors. I remember using a program called Typing Tutor ( Of course, that would have been late 80s ). A quick web search on typing tutor brings up numerous things. At 11:16 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray Mark Holm wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2641 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Typing test for programming?
Mavis Beacon? Jeffry Houser wrote: I got 93 words per minute with no errors on the non-Java practice test. 430 characters per minute. However, they used variation on Quick Brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs, which is pretty common in such tests (since it uses all letters of the alphabet). In the Java applet test, I was @ 70+ w/ 3 errors. I remember using a program called Typing Tutor ( Of course, that would have been late 80s ). A quick web search on typing tutor brings up numerous things. At 11:16 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray Mark Holm wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2642 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Mavis Beacon? Mavis can be had for as little as $5 in the bargain bins in most electronics stores. Of course she doesn't like it when I say it like that, she feels belittled. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2643 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Could have been, I don't really remember. Standard testing was a Blue Screen with white letters. Fairly nondescript by todays standards. At 11:55 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: Mavis Beacon? Jeffry Houser wrote: I got 93 words per minute with no errors on the non-Java practice test. 430 characters per minute. However, they used variation on Quick Brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs, which is pretty common in such tests (since it uses all letters of the alphabet). In the Java applet test, I was @ 70+ w/ 3 errors. I remember using a program called Typing Tutor ( Of course, that would have been late 80s ). A quick web search on typing tutor brings up numerous things. At 11:16 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray Mark Holm wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2644 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I'm reminded of the time when my Mother's company was looking for a person to type business card info their contact management system. They decided to name the position Database Administrator and the job ad went out w/ that title in it. Of course, if that were the situation here, I assume it would have come up before the point where you are taking tests to prove yourself. At 11:12 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2645 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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back to the original question, no this is not common for a development position. To be honest, if anyone asked me to take a typing test for a development position, I would refuse. Well written software cannot be conceived at such a speed that typing speed is an issue. If they want a typist that's one thing, but the amount of time it takes (and the general ability to) design an app. is going to have much more impact than typing speed when it comes to development times. ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Jeffry Houser wrote: I'm reminded of the time when my Mother's company was looking for a person to type business card info their contact management system. They decided to name the position Database Administrator and the job ad went out w/ that title in it. Of course, if that were the situation here, I assume it would have come up before the point where you are taking tests to prove yourself. At 11:12 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm -- Jeffry Houser, Software Developer, Writer, Songwriter, Recording Engineer AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Company: http://www.dot-com-it.com My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com My Recording Studio: http://www.fcfstudios.com Connecticut Macromedia User Group: http://www.ctmug.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2646 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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A bunch of people have suggested 'Typing of the Dead' as a really fun typing game that gets your speed up. Demo version is a free download various places. Dave Merrill ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2647 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Typing test for programming?
A bunch of people have suggested 'Typing of the Dead' as a really fun typing game that gets your speed up. Demo version is a free download various places. FYI this is the PC game House Of The Dead 2 converted into a typing tutor, instead of shooting zombies you pit your typing skills against them. Its really fun, I got it for my wife a number of years back and she loved it :) You should be able to find it in stores for $10 or less. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2648 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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81wpm on their classic test -- which is shorter and therefore a less accurate assessment... in the neighborhood of 60 with their new Java applet. I don't think it's at all common as a request for a job interview... I can see why someone would ask for it tho... While you may not be typing other people's words, you will type your own words faster if you know how to touch-type... Which is useful particularly for email and documentation, but even with code, I find that a lot of my typing is in the form of real words (albeit unusually combined/cased) rather than a wholly unique dialect which emphasises completely different characters (or character combinations) than are emphasized by the qwerty keyboard. I remember a friend of mine once bragged about typing (programming code primarily in C/C++) much faster with only 4 fingers because the syntax was so different from english that it was actually more efficient not to use standard touch-typing practices. I didn't think much of it at the time. In retrospect I have to think the code was likely god-awful looking. I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray Mark Holm wrote: HI, I'm applying for a position. I have to take a typing speed test.. this is the 1st position I've ever applied for that requested this. Is this common? My typing speed sucks..well because I never learned to touch type..but it hasn't hindered my work in the past. I have never had to type somebody else words..so I don't see the relivance to doing programming. Can anybody suggest a good and quick way to increase my typing speed in a few days? TIA Mark Holm s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2650 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Maybe typing speed can be seen as an indicator for tech experience with computers - well, I don't think so. After having used the same standard 101 keyboard for about the past 15 years, several months ago I got a new electron luminescent keyboard [Zippy EL-715 (Black), check it out at newegg.com]. Now, because of the new laptop-style keys and their layout, my typing speed is horrible; but there's no more eye-strain, or the keyboard slipping around on my desk. Plus, my typing speed for a standard 101 keyboard is now also slower because I'm (sort of) used to the new key layout. You'd think for sitting at my desk all day long, I'd be a fast typist - but, you see, I do more than type at my desk. Maybe reading comprehension would be a more favorable test for me... Louis Mezo LogicSynthesis Tel: 240.498.8951 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.logicsynthesis.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2651 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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I remember a friend of mine once bragged about typing (programming code primarily in C/C++) much faster with only 4 fingers because the syntax was so different from english that it was actually more efficient not to use standard touch-typing practices. I didn't think much of it at the time. In retrospect I have to think the code was likely god-awful looking. My brother's a long-time APL programmer, and he can type it scary fast. If you've ever seen APL, you know that's quite a feat. Looks like a cross between hieroglyphics and a core dump. A semi-famous quote: APL, in which you can write a program to simulate shuffling a deck of cards and then dealing them out to several players in four characters, none of which appear on a standard keyboard. David Given Dave Merrill ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2652 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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On my first try, I got 108 words per minute, no errors. Jo-Anne Head In a message dated 6/1/2005 11:18:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know about where to send you to learn, but you can test yourself for free here: http://www.typingcertification.com/ I did just plain awful. 23WPM and 8 errors on my first try. Ugh. When you find that software, let me know. I obviously need it! Ray ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2654 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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On June 1, 2005 11:16 am, Ian Skinner scribbled: such a game on my first TSR80. Was that the big grey one or were you lucky enough to get a second generation white one? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2655 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
