[KCFusion] OT: Infrastructure Help!

2002-02-04 Thread Justin Hansen

We need to buy Cisco 2900/2950 48 port switch TODAY!
Let me know ASAP if you can help or where we might find one.

Justin Hansen

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[KCFusion] Secure file download

2002-02-04 Thread Keith Purtell

I'm trying to choose between CFFILE and CFCONTENT for secure file download.
Some have said CFCONTENT is too slow. That's a possible issue for me, since
some of my files are up to 10MB. But I'm on a low-traffic intranet with a
maximum of 400 visitors. People in various departments can upload files and
make them available to other employees via hyperlinks. So a person can go to
the main Marketing page, and click on a link that downloads a Word file
stored /marketing/docs/. Unfortunately, anyone with a full address can
defeat my intranet security that only kicks in for CF templates (via
application.cfm and cookies). I'd like to move all these downloadable files
to the D drive on that same server, then let CF make them available via the
same hyperlinks, except only for logged-on people. The pros and cons of this
were mentioned in email traffic from another CF list, which I have attached
below. Any comments here? We're running CF5 on NT4 SP6a with IIS.

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 12:23 PM

Generally this is the best way to do it with one exception.  Never use
CFContent with large files.  This will destroy your response time.

Web servers were designed to deal with serving files and should be used in
place of CF whenever possible.  The only problem of course is security.  If
you make the directory web accessible then you have no security.  However,
you can't really secure the directory well with a web server since it has no
concept of your application security.  Below I describe how we solved this
issue.

Whenever we need to serve a file we create a symbolic link to the file in
question.  This symbolic link is placed in a web accessible directory and
its file name is a UUID.  This allows us to serve a file that would
otherwise not be web accessible, by simply linking to its symbolic link.
The likelihood of someone guessing a UUID is very low because it is based on
a 128 bit integer.  Further we have a process that deletes symbolic links
after they have been around for more then five minutes.  Thus even if the
UUID was guessed it would only be accessible for five minutes.

Hope this helps.

-Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:15 AM


 I agree with Nathan this would be the best approach.

 The problem is that you can't control what the
 file name would be.

 You can fix this with CFHEADER Like so:

 CFHEADER NAME=Content-Disposition VALUE=inline;
 filename=#ExportFile#

 Thank You,
 Jon Cole ACP
 DevTech Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 206.956.0888
 Learn more about DevTech @ www.Dev-Tech.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Nathan Dintenfass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:34 PM


 One way I have dealt with something like this is to keep the
 files outside the
 web root, so they are not accessible over the web at all.  Then, use
 CFCONTENT
 to deliver the files -- that way your CF security you already
 have running can
 secure access to the files (assuming the server itself is secure, of
 course).

 You may want to store a separate DB of file information such
 as MIME type, etc., but it's not necessary.




 
 
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RE: [KCFusion] Secure file download

2002-02-04 Thread Ryan Hartwich

I have seen some sites that show you a list of files that you can
download.  Each link has something unique appended to it to
differentiate the actual file.  When you click on the link, instead of
actually letting you download, it passes you off to a 2nd page.   It's
the second page that has the security setup.  To get to the second page
you must have the correct security settings and once you are on the
page, only the file you requested is linked to.  

Theoretically, someone who receives the url of the actual file could
still download it, but in general, you would only see a single file link
in your browser since the larger list only references the secure page.
This allows you to use straight html links for your files without having
to use cffile or cfcontent.

Of course, I haven't tried this.  Make sure you put your entire source
code out there first to test out the ability for outsiders to steal your
products before going live with something valuable :-) 

Ryan


 
 
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Re: [KCFusion] Secure file download

2002-02-04 Thread Daryl Banttari

Why would CFCONTENT be slow?  How would CFFILE replace CFCONTENT?

You may want to take a moment and re-examine your assumptions...

--Daryl

- Original Message -
From: Keith Purtell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: KCFusion (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:41 PM
Subject: [KCFusion] Secure file download


I'm trying to choose between CFFILE and CFCONTENT for secure file download.
Some have said CFCONTENT is too slow. That's a possible issue for me, since
some of my files are up to 10MB. But I'm on a low-traffic intranet with a
maximum of 400 visitors. People in various departments can upload files and
make them available to other employees via hyperlinks. So a person can go to
the main Marketing page, and click on a link that downloads a Word file
stored /marketing/docs/. Unfortunately, anyone with a full address can
defeat my intranet security that only kicks in for CF templates (via
application.cfm and cookies). I'd like to move all these downloadable files
to the D drive on that same server, then let CF make them available via the
same hyperlinks, except only for logged-on people. The pros and cons of this
were mentioned in email traffic from another CF list, which I have attached
below. Any comments here? We're running CF5 on NT4 SP6a with IIS.

Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is
for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential
and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or
distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please
contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original
message.

=

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 12:23 PM

Generally this is the best way to do it with one exception.  Never use
CFContent with large files.  This will destroy your response time.

Web servers were designed to deal with serving files and should be used in
place of CF whenever possible.  The only problem of course is security.  If
you make the directory web accessible then you have no security.  However,
you can't really secure the directory well with a web server since it has no
concept of your application security.  Below I describe how we solved this
issue.

Whenever we need to serve a file we create a symbolic link to the file in
question.  This symbolic link is placed in a web accessible directory and
its file name is a UUID.  This allows us to serve a file that would
otherwise not be web accessible, by simply linking to its symbolic link.
The likelihood of someone guessing a UUID is very low because it is based on
a 128 bit integer.  Further we have a process that deletes symbolic links
after they have been around for more then five minutes.  Thus even if the
UUID was guessed it would only be accessible for five minutes.

Hope this helps.

-Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:15 AM


 I agree with Nathan this would be the best approach.

 The problem is that you can't control what the
 file name would be.

 You can fix this with CFHEADER Like so:

 CFHEADER NAME=Content-Disposition VALUE=inline;
 filename=#ExportFile#

 Thank You,
 Jon Cole ACP
 DevTech Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 206.956.0888
 Learn more about DevTech @ www.Dev-Tech.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Nathan Dintenfass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:34 PM


 One way I have dealt with something like this is to keep the
 files outside the
 web root, so they are not accessible over the web at all.  Then, use
 CFCONTENT
 to deliver the files -- that way your CF security you already
 have running can
 secure access to the files (assuming the server itself is secure, of
 course).

 You may want to store a separate DB of file information such
 as MIME type, etc., but it's not necessary.






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[KCFusion] CFHTTP

2002-02-04 Thread Daryl Banttari

Is anyone on the list using CFHTTP extensively?  I'm going to be doing some
QA work on that tag for Neo, and I want to hear about anyone's negative
experiences with CFHTTP.

Please contact me off-list, so we don't clutter everyone's inbox.

--Daryl


 
 
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[KCFusion] reinstall

2002-02-04 Thread Adaryl Wakefield

RDS has suddenly decided to stop working.  When ever I try to log in I get a
remote server error message. I'm inclined to just reinstall the server to
try to fix the problem. Anybody care to advise against this course of action
(i.e. anybody got a better idea)?
Adaryl

 
 
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Re: [KCFusion] reinstall

2002-02-04 Thread James Hrdy

I would check the user that RDS and/or the username that your using to be
sure its not locked out.

What is the error message ?
- Original Message -
From: Adaryl Wakefield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:18 PM
Subject: [KCFusion] reinstall


 RDS has suddenly decided to stop working.  When ever I try to log in I get
a
 remote server error message. I'm inclined to just reinstall the server to
 try to fix the problem. Anybody care to advise against this course of
action
 (i.e. anybody got a better idea)?
 Adaryl



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