RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation

2003-06-18 Thread Boles, Mark E 
Title: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation



I am 
not sure what you mean by integrate with CFStudio. I am not sure if 
CFStudio has plugins to in effect have CSV a part of or extended feature for use 
in CFStudio. I do know there was such integration for other development 
tools.

As for 
locked files... you could check out a file for read only when it was currently 
checked out. What I would typically do is check out for read only and then 
after the file was checked back in and I checked it out and lock it then I did a 
line comparison between the file I had checked out for read only and changed and 
the file I checked out for lock that had been checked back 
in.

-MEB

-Original Message-From: Bryan LaPlante 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:45 
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [KCFusion] Version 
Control Evaluation
Does CVS integrate with CFStudio? Also CVS is 
version control but there does not seem to be the concept of check out where the 
file is locked by the current owner.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Boles, Mark E 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:35 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control 
  Evaluation
  
  I have also been very pleased with CVS. 
  -Original Message- From: Glenn 
  Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation 
  I use CVS and like it. Works well for distributed 
  projects where team members aren't on a LAN. 
  
  -glenn 
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   Behalf Of Kory Bakken  Sent: 
  Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:57 AM  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: [KCFusion] Version 
  Control EvaluationHas anybody out there ever done a 
  formal evaluation of version  control products for 
  use with Coldfusion? If so would you care  
  to share your results?   Kory Bakken  Nations Technical 
  Services  Prairie Village, KS  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
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RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation

2003-06-18 Thread Glenn Crocker 
Title: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation



It 
doesn't seamlessly integrate with CF Studio (or with DW MX, to my 
knowledge). It just manages the files externally using a separate 
check-in/check-out application.

CVS 
doesn't use a file locking model. Instead, it does a very very good job of 
merging changes made in parallel. If folks check their changes in 
regularly, CVS does very well. (If people go for months without committing 
their changes, their checkin process will take a while and they may have to 
manually handle merge conflicts.)

Visual 
SourceSafe may be a better option for what you want.

-glenn


  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bryan 
  LaPlanteSent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:45 AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [KCFusion] Version Control 
  Evaluation
  Does CVS integrate with CFStudio? Also CVS is 
  version control but there does not seem to be the concept of check out where 
  the file is locked by the current owner.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Boles, Mark E 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:35 
AM
Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control 
Evaluation

I have also been very pleased with CVS. 
-Original Message- From: 
Glenn Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:44 AM To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation 

I use CVS and like it. Works well for distributed 
projects where team members aren't on a LAN. 

-glenn 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:57 AM  To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: [KCFusion] 
Version Control EvaluationHas anybody out there ever done a 
formal evaluation of version  control products 
for use with Coldfusion? If so would you care  to share your results?  
 Kory Bakken  Nations 
Technical Services  Prairie Village, KS 
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RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation

2003-06-18 Thread Kory Bakken 
Title: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation



From 
what I understood from the CVS documentation, each developer would check out a 
version of their site before development began. I assume this would mean 
that each developer would have to havea web server,CF server, 
andaccess to each of his datasources on his client. Additionally, 
like Glenn stated, a developer could have a document checked out for long 
periods of time before checking it back in, causing problems with parallel 
development. I am correct in these assumptions?

-Kory

-Original Message-From: 
Glenn Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 
1:27 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [KCFusion] 
Version Control Evaluation

  It 
  doesn't seamlessly integrate with CF Studio (or with DW MX, to my 
  knowledge). It just manages the files externally using a separate 
  check-in/check-out application.
  
  CVS 
  doesn't use a file locking model. Instead, it does a very very good job 
  of merging changes made in parallel. If folks check their changes in 
  regularly, CVS does very well. (If people go for months without 
  committing their changes, their checkin process will take a while and they may 
  have to manually handle merge conflicts.)
  
  Visual SourceSafe may be a better option for what you 
  want.
  
  -glenn
  
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bryan 
LaPlanteSent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:45 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [KCFusion] Version Control 
Evaluation
Does CVS integrate with CFStudio? Also CVS is 
version control but there does not seem to be the concept of check out where 
the file is locked by the current owner.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Boles, Mark E 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:35 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version 
  Control Evaluation
  
  I have also been very pleased with CVS. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Glenn Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation 
  
  I use CVS and like it. Works well for distributed 
  projects where team members aren't on a 
  LAN. 
  -glenn 
   -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
   Behalf Of Kory Bakken  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:57 AM  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: [KCFusion] 
  Version Control EvaluationHas anybody out there ever done a 
  formal evaluation of version  control products 
  for use with Coldfusion? If so would you care  to share your results?  
   Kory Bakken  Nations 
  Technical Services  Prairie Village, KS 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation

2003-06-18 Thread Glenn Crocker 
Title: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control Evaluation



I 
always check in at least once a week, usually daily. For long-term 
development (like converting a site from access to sql server), CVS supports 
"branching" so I can check in without impacting the main trunk (until the "big 
merge" when the branch is ready to merge with the trunk).

I 
usually have each developer set up with their own server and data instance, 
yeah.

-glenn


  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kory 
  BakkenSent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:30 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control 
  Evaluation
  From 
  what I understood from the CVS documentation, each developer would check out a 
  version of their site before development began. I assume this would mean 
  that each developer would have to havea web server,CF server, 
  andaccess to each of his datasources on his client. Additionally, 
  like Glenn stated, a developer could have a document checked out for long 
  periods of time before checking it back in, causing problems with parallel 
  development. I am correct in these assumptions?
  
  -Kory
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Glenn Crocker 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:27 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [KCFusion] 
  Version Control Evaluation
  
It 
doesn't seamlessly integrate with CF Studio (or with DW MX, to my 
knowledge). It just manages the files externally using a separate 
check-in/check-out application.

CVS doesn't use a file locking model. Instead, it does a very 
very good job of merging changes made in parallel. If folks check 
their changes in regularly, CVS does very well. (If people go for 
months without committing their changes, their checkin process will take a 
while and they may have to manually handle merge 
conflicts.)

Visual SourceSafe may be a better option for what you 
want.

-glenn


  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf 
  Of Bryan LaPlanteSent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:45 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [KCFusion] 
  Version Control Evaluation
  Does CVS integrate with CFStudio? Also CVS is 
  version control but there does not seem to be the concept of check out 
  where the file is locked by the current owner.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Boles, Mark E 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 
10:35 AM
    Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version 
    Control Evaluation

I have also been very pleased with CVS. 
-Original Message- From: 
Glenn Crocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:44 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Version Control 
Evaluation 
I use CVS and like it. Works well for distributed 
projects where team members aren't on a 
LAN. 
-glenn 
 -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
 Behalf Of Kory Bakken  
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:57 AM  To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: [KCFusion] 
Version Control EvaluationHas anybody out there ever done 
a formal evaluation of version  control 
products for use with Coldfusion? If so would you care 
 to share your results?   Kory Bakken  Nations Technical Services  
Prairie Village, KS  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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