Re: Getting data into Flash 8

2006-02-26 Thread dave
As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM is no 
more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as far as i know 
isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically speaking AMFPHP is 
running on Adobe's patent.

My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are running it IF 
Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it?

Not trying to dog it just being realistic.

 So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge.
Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts telling 
me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like HELL F*CK NO YOU 
AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT SH*T!! haha

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 

Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly
misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your
site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That was
it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel about
amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it and
doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know
anything about copyrights either company owns.

Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The
documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out
amfphp.org .

So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do prefer
Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy, if
you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of
knowledge.

Just my 2 cents...

On 2/25/06, dave  wrote:

 I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and
 that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky to
 use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt allow
 it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time.

 ~Dave the disruptor~

 
 From: John C. Bland II 
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk 
 Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step
 than
 CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going
 to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation
 anyway. :-)

 On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote:
 
  Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
 
  Thanks Dave. I'll check that out.
 
  But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do
  such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7
  steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion.
 
  You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh?
 
  andy matthews
  web developer
  ICGLink, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  615.370.1530 x737
  --//-
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
 
 
  MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket
  science.
 
  They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you
  can
  have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector
  that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in
  under
  30 seconds.
 
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc
 
 
 hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc
  atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0
 
  I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at
 communitymx.com
  or specifically this one
  http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B
 
  or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well.
 
  ~Dave the disruptor~
 
 
 
 
 



 



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Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots)

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Wright
That's probably because there is no resizeImage method...it is just resize...
cfscript
imageCFC = createObject(component,image);
img = imagecfc.resize(objImage=,inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg,
outputFile=, newWidth=51,newHeight=41);
/cfscript

On 2/26/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that gives me error

 It looks like this would be all I need
  img = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=,
 inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg, outputFile=, newWidth=51,
 newHeight=41)

 but that gives an error for the = between newheight, etc...

 ~Dave the disruptor~

 
 From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:20 AM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots)

 dave wrote:
  I got a ? on do a resizing, I need to make thumbnails 51px x 41px, so I 
  could do the resize then flip it and do another resize but is it possible 
  to do it in one call instead of 3?

 Well... if you wrote a custom function to do it.

 You can do it in one pass... ie, one file read and one file write:

 (I'm using named arguments in this example for clarity)

 // load imagecfc
 imagecfc = createObject(component,image);
 // read image file, resize and return image object
 img = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=,
 inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg, outputFile=, newWidth=51,
 newHeight=41);
 // flip image object and return image object
 img = imagecfc.flipHorizontal(objImage=img, inputFile=, outputFile=);
 // resize image object and output new file.
 results = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=img, inputFile=,
 outputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo2.jpg, newWidth=30, newHeight=30);

 Rick



 

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RE: Digital Signing a SOAP Request

2006-02-26 Thread Bud
I searched their documentation for 48 hours to find the URL to post 
the XML to use their web services. I finally had to find it from 
google. Ridiculous. All I get back from that is connection failure. 
When I go to the URL directly, I get a browser alert error. A search 
for part of that...

incorrect or unexpected message

reveals that the error is generally related to not having a proper 
client-side certificate.

The SOAP/XML part shouldn't be too hard. I just don't even know where 
to begin to digitally sign the soap request. Any clues would be 
very welcome.

Hmmm, it could be coincidence that Ben was just blogging this;

http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/2/23/Using-PayPal-In-ColdFusion-Applications

-Original Message-
From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2006 2:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Digital Signing a SOAP Request

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_wp-pro-overview-outside

This is from their web services documentation.

Your security with the PayPal Web Services API relies on a set of
public/private security keys issued in the form of digital
certificates by PayPal. These keys uniquely identify an API user to
prove his authorization to access PayPal Web Services. Each SOAP
request is signed by your private key, and PayPal Web Services
processes a request only after authentication succeeds.

Can you send a link for more info on PayPal Pro? A quick google didn't
yield
much.

This link suggests you don't need digital signing;
http://www.paypaldev.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11264 but it doesn't mention
pro
specifically.

Cheers.

-Original Message-
From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2006 3:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Digital Signing a SOAP Request

Anyone have any code lying around that will digitally sign a soap
request using CF's built-in functions or java classes? Pointers on
where to start?

I'm wanting to implement PayPal Pro with cf_ezcart. They have an API
for MX 7, but it requires jar files be installed and it looks like
this may be a problem on shared servers. Their SOAP requests look
pretty straight forward, but I have NO idea how to digitally sign a
SOAP request. :)

Clues? Tips? Pointers?

Thanks! :)
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Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots)

2006-02-26 Thread Rick Root
oops... don't know me own code! ;)


Jim Wright wrote:
 That's probably because there is no resizeImage method...it is just resize...
 cfscript
 imageCFC = createObject(component,image);
 img = imagecfc.resize(objImage=,inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg,
 outputFile=, newWidth=51,newHeight=41);
 /cfscript
 
 On 2/26/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that gives me error

 It looks like this would be all I need
  img = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=,
 inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg, outputFile=, newWidth=51,
 newHeight=41)

 but that gives an error for the = between newheight, etc...

 ~Dave the disruptor~

 
 From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:20 AM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots)

 dave wrote:
 I got a ? on do a resizing, I need to make thumbnails 51px x 41px, so I 
 could do the resize then flip it and do another resize but is it possible 
 to do it in one call instead of 3?
 Well... if you wrote a custom function to do it.

 You can do it in one pass... ie, one file read and one file write:

 (I'm using named arguments in this example for clarity)

 // load imagecfc
 imagecfc = createObject(component,image);
 // read image file, resize and return image object
 img = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=,
 inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg, outputFile=, newWidth=51,
 newHeight=41);
 // flip image object and return image object
 img = imagecfc.flipHorizontal(objImage=img, inputFile=, outputFile=);
 // resize image object and output new file.
 results = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=img, inputFile=,
 outputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo2.jpg, newWidth=30, newHeight=30);

 Rick




 
 

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Re: U.S. Grants Patent For Broad Range Of Internet Rich Applications

2006-02-26 Thread Aaron Roberson
In a patent infringement case, a defendant may argue that:

1.) A patent is invalid because it was granted in spite of the fact
that knowledge embodied in the patent already existed (in other words,
the invention is not new, Sections 102(a) and (b)).
2.) Anything new in the patent is trivial and obvious to one skilled
in the industry (the non-obviousness requirement of Section 103).
3.) A patentee withheld material information from the patent examiner.
4.) Even if a patent is valid, pantentees can lose their patent rights
if they misuse their patent. This most often occurs if the patentee
tries to extend patent monopoly by tying the sale of a patented
product to a nonpatented product. This is a viololation of Section 3
of the Clayton Act, which is an antitrust statue.

I think this guy's patent is invalid because it is trivial and obvious
to the web development industry. JavaScript, XML, XSLT, DOM, and DHTML
are all obvious to our industry. Also, RIA development is not new, it
is just catching wind.

You probably remember when the patentee of the Active-X object persued
Macromedia for using their patented process for embedding swf's in a
web page. Well, Balthaser could have patented the XMLHttpRequest
object, if he had created it, but that is not the case. He could not,
however, patent the use of Assyncronous JavaScript and XML because it
is not a technology itself, but the collections of obvious
technologies used together (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX).
That would be like patenting the use of HTML with CSS.

That's my two cents. I am not a legal advisor so my conclusions don't
carry any weight, but the four defenses to patent infringement listed
above are straight from the book, Legal Enviroment of Business in the
Information Age by David L. Baumer and J.C. Poindexter..

Aaron Roberson

On 2/24/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, I think what we should hope is that the patent is reviewed and
 found to be invalid due to lack of patentability.

 According to the article the patent also covers Java.
 Isn't it already owned by Sun?

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RE: U.S. Grants Patent For Broad Range Of Internet Rich Applications

2006-02-26 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Seems to be a reasonable and well researched 2 cents to me ;-)

..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Roberson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: U.S. Grants Patent For Broad Range Of Internet Rich
Applications

In a patent infringement case, a defendant may argue that:

1.) A patent is invalid because it was granted in spite of the fact
that knowledge embodied in the patent already existed (in other words,
the invention is not new, Sections 102(a) and (b)).
2.) Anything new in the patent is trivial and obvious to one skilled
in the industry (the non-obviousness requirement of Section 103).
3.) A patentee withheld material information from the patent examiner.
4.) Even if a patent is valid, pantentees can lose their patent rights
if they misuse their patent. This most often occurs if the patentee
tries to extend patent monopoly by tying the sale of a patented
product to a nonpatented product. This is a viololation of Section 3
of the Clayton Act, which is an antitrust statue.

I think this guy's patent is invalid because it is trivial and obvious
to the web development industry. JavaScript, XML, XSLT, DOM, and DHTML
are all obvious to our industry. Also, RIA development is not new, it
is just catching wind.

You probably remember when the patentee of the Active-X object persued
Macromedia for using their patented process for embedding swf's in a
web page. Well, Balthaser could have patented the XMLHttpRequest
object, if he had created it, but that is not the case. He could not,
however, patent the use of Assyncronous JavaScript and XML because it
is not a technology itself, but the collections of obvious
technologies used together (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX).
That would be like patenting the use of HTML with CSS.

That's my two cents. I am not a legal advisor so my conclusions don't
carry any weight, but the four defenses to patent infringement listed
above are straight from the book, Legal Enviroment of Business in the
Information Age by David L. Baumer and J.C. Poindexter..

Aaron Roberson

On 2/24/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, I think what we should hope is that the patent is reviewed
and
 found to be invalid due to lack of patentability.

 According to the article the patent also covers Java.
 Isn't it already owned by Sun?

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RegEx for Fractions using TMT Validator

2006-02-26 Thread David Seong
I'm trying to create a new fraction pattern for validation using Massimo's
TMT Validator but it does not validate correctly.

tmt_globalPatterns.fraction = new RegExp(^\d* \d*\/{1}\d*$|^\d*$);

It's supposed to accept numbers and/or fractions.
Please advise.


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Flash Form Problem

2006-02-26 Thread Steve Milburn
I have been struggling with this for several hours now, and am at the 
end of my rope.  I am hoping somebody here can help.  I have a flash 
form with 3 cfselect controls on it.  2 of the cfselects contain a 
listing of states, which I have just added manually in the form setup 
with a bunch of option tags inside the cfselect.  The third cfselect 
is populated from a query that runs when the form loads containing the 
names of Internet Service Providers.

I also have a cfgrid component that is populated when the form loads 
with a list of customers.  In the onChange event of the grid, I populate 
the controls on the form with the customer details, and also choose the 
correct option from the cfselect controls that correspond to the 
customer record.  The 2 cfselects that I populate manually with the 
names of states work fine, but the cfselect that is populated 
dynamically from a query will not display the appropriate ISP that 
corresponds to the customer record.  It never changes it's value.

Here is some code:
The onchange of the cfgrid calls the custGridChanged function:

public function custGridChanged():Void {
selectOption(provider, custGrid.selectedItem.I_Name);
selectOption(state, custGrid.selectedItem.CU_State);
selectOption(billingState, custGrid.selectedItem.CU_bstate);
...
...
}

You can see this calls another helper function called selectOption to 
find the correct values in the cfselect

public function selectOption(cbox:mx.controls.ComboBox, 
optionToSelect:String):Void {
var itemFound:String;
itemFound = no;

for (var i:Number = 0; i  cbox.length; i++) {
   if (cbox.getItemAt([i]).data == optionToSelect) {
  cbox.selectedIndex = i;
  itemFound = yes;
  break;
   }
}
if (itemFound == no) {
   cbox.selectedIndex = 0;
}
}

As I said, this code correctly displays the values for the state combo 
boxes that I manually add values to, but does not find the correct value 
in the ISP combo box that is populated by a query.  The code to populate 
the ISP combo box is as follows:

ispSelect.labelField = I_Name;
ispSelect.dataProvider = result;  !--- result is the variable being 
passed back from a CFC containing a recordset of ISPs ---

The ISP combo box does get populated correctly.

Thanks for any help with this, and sorry for the long email.  If there 
is a more appropriate forum I should ask this question, please tell me 
and I'll move it there.

Steve
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Re: RegEx for Fractions using TMT Validator

2006-02-26 Thread Massimo Foti
 I'm trying to create a new fraction pattern for validation using Massimo's
 TMT Validator but it does not validate correctly.

 tmt_globalPatterns.fraction = new RegExp(^\d* \d*\/{1}\d*$|^\d*$);

 It's supposed to accept numbers and/or fractions.
 Please advise.

Whenever you use the new RegExp() syntax in JavaScript you need to escape 
the backslashes by doubling them.
See also the patterns that ship with the Validator

Hope it will help


Massimo Foti
Tools for ColdFusion and Dreamweaver developers:
http://www.massimocorner.com



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Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots)

2006-02-26 Thread dave
DOH!! lol that was as good as mine the other night Rick ;)

But I had caught the error but it still got error.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:53 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots) 

oops... don't know me own code! ;)

Jim Wright wrote:
 That's probably because there is no resizeImage method...it is just resize...
 
 imageCFC = createObject(component,image);
 img = imagecfc.resize(objImage=,inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg,
 outputFile=, newWidth=51,newHeight=41);
 
 
 On 2/26/06, dave  wrote:
 that gives me error

 It looks like this would be all I need
 img = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=,
 inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg, outputFile=, newWidth=51,
 newHeight=41)

 but that gives an error for the = between newheight, etc...

 ~Dave the disruptor~

 
 From: Rick Root 
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:20 AM
 To: CF-Talk 
 Subject: Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots)

 dave wrote:
 I got a ? on do a resizing, I need to make thumbnails 51px x 41px, so I 
 could do the resize then flip it and do another resize but is it possible 
 to do it in one call instead of 3?
 Well... if you wrote a custom function to do it.

 You can do it in one pass... ie, one file read and one file write:

 (I'm using named arguments in this example for clarity)

 // load imagecfc
 imagecfc = createObject(component,image);
 // read image file, resize and return image object
 img = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=,
 inputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo.jpg, outputFile=, newWidth=51,
 newHeight=41);
 // flip image object and return image object
 img = imagecfc.flipHorizontal(objImage=img, inputFile=, outputFile=);
 // resize image object and output new file.
 results = imagecfc.resizeImage(objImage=img, inputFile=,
 outputFile=C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\foo2.jpg, newWidth=30, newHeight=30);

 Rick




 
 



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Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread Steve Kahn
I am moving my sites from coldfusion server 5 / mssql 7 to a new host running 
mx7 / ms sql 2000. The sites work fine on the original host, but are 
functionless at the new one. 

Has anyone else experienced this issue and what do you recommend as a solution. 
Does it pay to persue finding a host running cf server 5 and does anyone know 
of one?

Thank you
Steve

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Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread Barney Boisvert
Are you by chance running Fusebox 3 with the conditionals in
index.cfm?  If so, remove them, leaving only the include for the CF5
core file.

There are a lot of little language changes between 5 and 7, but
nothing springs to mind as something that would totally kill your
sites.  I'd start chopping out sections of your app to see if you can
narrow down where the problem is, and make sure you're checking all
the relevant log files for any clues that might be in them.

cheers,
barneyb

On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am moving my sites from coldfusion server 5 / mssql 7 to a new host running 
 mx7 / ms sql 2000. The sites work fine on the original host, but are 
 functionless at the new one.

 Has anyone else experienced this issue and what do you recommend as a 
 solution. Does it pay to persue finding a host running cf server 5 and does 
 anyone know of one?

 Thank you
 Steve

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RE: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread Steve Kahn
There is no fusebox code. I am moving my site from cfm-resources to
crystaltech hosting. I restored the sql with a .bak file and ran a
datacompare with red-gate sql tools. The database looks fine. I set up the
site to have identical 'sql, username, and passwords' and yet I will get an
error saying a column name doesn’t exist in the database when in fact I can
see it in enterprise manager. Very confusing, for all intents the sites
should migrate well but are not. Thanks again for your advise.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop
working?

Are you by chance running Fusebox 3 with the conditionals in
index.cfm?  If so, remove them, leaving only the include for the CF5
core file.

There are a lot of little language changes between 5 and 7, but
nothing springs to mind as something that would totally kill your
sites.  I'd start chopping out sections of your app to see if you can
narrow down where the problem is, and make sure you're checking all
the relevant log files for any clues that might be in them.

cheers,
barneyb

On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am moving my sites from coldfusion server 5 / mssql 7 to a new host
running mx7 / ms sql 2000. The sites work fine on the original host, but are
functionless at the new one.

 Has anyone else experienced this issue and what do you recommend as a
solution. Does it pay to persue finding a host running cf server 5 and does
anyone know of one?

 Thank you
 Steve

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Re: RegEx for Fractions using TMT Validator

2006-02-26 Thread David Seong
 I'm trying to create a new fraction pattern for validation using Massimo's
 TMT Validator but it does not validate correctly.

 tmt_globalPatterns.fraction = new RegExp(^\d* \d*\/{1}\d*$|^\d*$);

 It's supposed to accept numbers and/or fractions.
 Please advise.

Whenever you use the new RegExp() syntax in JavaScript you need to escape 
the backslashes by doubling them.
See also the patterns that ship with the Validator

Hope it will help


Yes that solved it. Thank you. Very useful tool, btw. I encourage developers to 
try your validation tool.

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Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread David Seong
There is no fusebox code. I am moving my site from cfm-resources to
crystaltech hosting. I restored the sql with a .bak file and ran a
datacompare with red-gate sql tools. The database looks fine. I set up the
site to have identical 'sql, username, and passwords' and yet I will get an
error saying a column name doesn’t exist in the database when in fact I can
see it in enterprise manager. Very confusing, for all intents the sites
should migrate well but are not. Thanks again for your advise.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop
working?

Are you by chance running Fusebox 3 with the conditionals in
index.cfm?  If so, remove them, leaving only the include for the CF5
core file.

There are a lot of little language changes between 5 and 7, but
nothing springs to mind as something that would totally kill your
sites.  I'd start chopping out sections of your app to see if you can
narrow down where the problem is, and make sure you're checking all
the relevant log files for any clues that might be in them.

cheers,
barneyb

On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am moving my sites from coldfusion server 5 / mssql 7 to a new host
running mx7 / ms sql 2000. The sites work fine on the original host, but are
functionless at the new one.

 Has anyone else experienced this issue and what do you recommend as a
solution. Does it pay to persue finding a host running cf server 5 and does
anyone know of one?

 Thank you
 Steve

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There are some differences on CFForm usage especially if you're using built-in 
validation.  I don't know if CF5 supported validation off-hand, but coming from 
MX 6.1 to 7 there were some issues with cfform usage and validation.  Also 
check and see if your host has the new 7.01 patch installed.  

Dump the server scope to find out what version they are using.

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Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread Aaron Rouse
This happens for any column and any table?  What happens if you just make a
test page to connect to the database and select one row from one of the
tables?

On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no fusebox code. I am moving my site from cfm-resources to
 crystaltech hosting. I restored the sql with a .bak file and ran a
 datacompare with red-gate sql tools. The database looks fine. I set up the
 site to have identical 'sql, username, and passwords' and yet I will get
 an
 error saying a column name doesn't exist in the database when in fact I
 can
 see it in enterprise manager. Very confusing, for all intents the sites
 should migrate well but are not. Thanks again for your advise.

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop
 working?

 Are you by chance running Fusebox 3 with the conditionals in
 index.cfm?  If so, remove them, leaving only the include for the CF5
 core file.

 There are a lot of little language changes between 5 and 7, but
 nothing springs to mind as something that would totally kill your
 sites.  I'd start chopping out sections of your app to see if you can
 narrow down where the problem is, and make sure you're checking all
 the relevant log files for any clues that might be in them.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am moving my sites from coldfusion server 5 / mssql 7 to a new host
 running mx7 / ms sql 2000. The sites work fine on the original host, but
 are
 functionless at the new one.
 
  Has anyone else experienced this issue and what do you recommend as a
 solution. Does it pay to persue finding a host running cf server 5 and
 does
 anyone know of one?
 
  Thank you
  Steve

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RE: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread David Seong
Make sure your table owners of the sql object correlates with your script
(ie if your using Sproc's.) Check your queries for any database object
references and make sure they match your new ones.

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop
working?

This happens for any column and any table?  What happens if you just make a
test page to connect to the database and select one row from one of the
tables?

On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no fusebox code. I am moving my site from cfm-resources to 
 crystaltech hosting. I restored the sql with a .bak file and ran a 
 datacompare with red-gate sql tools. The database looks fine. I set up 
 the site to have identical 'sql, username, and passwords' and yet I 
 will get an error saying a column name doesn't exist in the database 
 when in fact I can see it in enterprise manager. Very confusing, for 
 all intents the sites should migrate well but are not. Thanks again 
 for your advise.

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop 
 working?

 Are you by chance running Fusebox 3 with the conditionals in 
 index.cfm?  If so, remove them, leaving only the include for the CF5 
 core file.

 There are a lot of little language changes between 5 and 7, but 
 nothing springs to mind as something that would totally kill your 
 sites.  I'd start chopping out sections of your app to see if you can 
 narrow down where the problem is, and make sure you're checking all 
 the relevant log files for any clues that might be in them.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am moving my sites from coldfusion server 5 / mssql 7 to a new 
  host
 running mx7 / ms sql 2000. The sites work fine on the original host, 
 but are functionless at the new one.
 
  Has anyone else experienced this issue and what do you recommend as 
  a
 solution. Does it pay to persue finding a host running cf server 5 and 
 does anyone know of one?
 
  Thank you
  Steve

 --
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread Steve Kahn
Aaron - good point.
I set up a demo on the sql server and did a cfform/ action to insert data
and it threw an error. Enterprise manager shows the table exists but has no
data entered. Sounds like a server related issue now, but im far from thru
the woods on these errors.

Thanks 
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 3:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop
working?

This happens for any column and any table?  What happens if you just make a
test page to connect to the database and select one row from one of the
tables?

On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no fusebox code. I am moving my site from cfm-resources to
 crystaltech hosting. I restored the sql with a .bak file and ran a
 datacompare with red-gate sql tools. The database looks fine. I set up the
 site to have identical 'sql, username, and passwords' and yet I will get
 an
 error saying a column name doesn't exist in the database when in fact I
 can
 see it in enterprise manager. Very confusing, for all intents the sites
 should migrate well but are not. Thanks again for your advise.

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop
 working?

 Are you by chance running Fusebox 3 with the conditionals in
 index.cfm?  If so, remove them, leaving only the include for the CF5
 core file.

 There are a lot of little language changes between 5 and 7, but
 nothing springs to mind as something that would totally kill your
 sites.  I'd start chopping out sections of your app to see if you can
 narrow down where the problem is, and make sure you're checking all
 the relevant log files for any clues that might be in them.

 cheers,
 barneyb

 On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am moving my sites from coldfusion server 5 / mssql 7 to a new host
 running mx7 / ms sql 2000. The sites work fine on the original host, but
 are
 functionless at the new one.
 
  Has anyone else experienced this issue and what do you recommend as a
 solution. Does it pay to persue finding a host running cf server 5 and
 does
 anyone know of one?
 
  Thank you
  Steve

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Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots)

2006-02-26 Thread Rick Root
dave wrote:
 
 But I had caught the error but it still got error.

You speaka da english?? ;)  I assume you mean it's still not working.

It would be helpful to know exactly what error is occurring... 
otherwise, you sound like one of my users!  It don't work, why not?... 
or my directory.

Hey Rick, I got an error last night when I went to page X last night

What was the error?

I don't know.

=)

Rick


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RE: Getting data into Flash 8

2006-02-26 Thread Kevin Aebig
It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My point
is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested associative
arrays can intimidating. 

You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and
that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would
think...

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step than
CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going
to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation
anyway. :-)

On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8

 Thanks Dave. I'll check that out.

 But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do
 such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7
 steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion.

 You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh?

 !//--
 andy matthews
 web developer
 ICGLink, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 615.370.1530 x737
 --//-

 -Original Message-
 From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8


 MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket
 science.

 They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you
 can
 have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector
 that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in
 under
 30 seconds.


http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc


hange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=60639501page=0scrollPos=0subc
 atid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=13extid=1011923catid=0

 I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at communitymx.com
 or specifically this one
 http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B

 or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well.

 ~Dave the disruptor~




 



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Re: Getting data into Flash 8

2006-02-26 Thread John C. Bland II
LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is like
them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call. You
pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal. As
said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing more
than a set of files you put on your server.

Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf
products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which
would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about 2
or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do it
especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is
continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to work
with the community.

IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As said,
that would be dumb.

On 2/26/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM
 is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as far as
 i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically speaking
 AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent.

 My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are running
 it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it?

 Not trying to dog it just being realistic.

  So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge.
 Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts
 telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like HELL
 F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT
 SH*T!! haha

 ~Dave the disruptor~

 
 From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

 Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly
 misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your
 site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That was
 it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel about
 amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it and
 doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know
 anything about copyrights either company owns.

 Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The
 documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out
 amfphp.org .

 So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do
 prefer
 Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy,
 if
 you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of
 knowledge.

 Just my 2 cents...

 On 2/25/06, dave  wrote:
 
  I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and
  that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky
 to
  use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt
 allow
  it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time.
 
  ~Dave the disruptor~
 
  
  From: John C. Bland II
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8
 
  Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step
  than
  CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't
 going
  to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation
  anyway. :-)
 
  On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote:
  
   Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
  
   Thanks Dave. I'll check that out.
  
   But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to
 do
   such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or
 7
   steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion.
  
   You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh?
  
   andy matthews
   web developer
   ICGLink, Inc.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   615.370.1530 x737
   --//-
  
   -Original Message-
   From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
  
  
   MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket
   science.
  
   They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in,
 you
   can
   have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data
 connector
   that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in
   under
   30 seconds.
  
  
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm#view=sn106viewName=Exc
  
  
 
 

Re: Getting data into Flash 8

2006-02-26 Thread John C. Bland II
You don't have to use nested associate arrays. You can use numerical or
associate. CF Stucts are nothing but associate arrays anyway. If you know
how to use PHP classes then you know at least what an array is. You can
return virtually any type in php to Flash. In the latest version you have
more types you can return (including xml).

http://www.amfphp.org/docs/datatypes.html

So you know, when I first used AMFPHP I didn't know PHP that well. I was the
definition of novice, in terms of PHP. But PHP classes are similar to ECMA
classes so it wasn't hard to catch on. If you aren't a PHP developer then
PHP itself is the problem...not AMFPHP. If you don't know CF then CF is the
problem...not Remoting w/ CF. PHP's learning curve is somewhat steep.

The issue with AMFPHP was the documentation was horrible at that point in
the game (early versions) so the installation portion was a pain. Everything
dealt with server-wide installation on Apache so it was terribly confusing.
Once I figured out it was just a folder everything else was a piece of cake.

On 2/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My
 point
 is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested
 associative
 arrays can intimidating.

 You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and
 that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would
 think...

 Cheers,

 Kevin

 -Original Message-
 From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step
 than
 CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going
 to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation
 anyway. :-)

 On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
 
  Thanks Dave. I'll check that out.
 
  But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do
  such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7
  steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion.
 
  You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh?
 
  !//--
  andy matthews
  web developer
  ICGLink, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  615.370.1530 x737
  --//-
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
 
 
  MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket
  science.
 
  They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you
  can
  have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector
  that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in
  under
  30 seconds.
 
 

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  I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at
 communitymx.com
  or specifically this one
  http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B
 
  or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well.
 
  ~Dave the disruptor~
 
 
 
 
 



 

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Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread George Abraham
Steve,
I recently moved an app from CF5 to CFMX7 and I did not have any significant
problems. Any chance you could post code/errors?

George

On 2/26/06, Steve Kahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Aaron - good point.
 I set up a demo on the sql server and did a cfform/ action to insert data
 and it threw an error. Enterprise manager shows the table exists but has
 no
 data entered. Sounds like a server related issue now, but im far from thru
 the woods on these errors.

 Thanks
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Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread Kym Kovan
Steve Kahn wrote:
 The database looks fine. I set up the
 site to have identical 'sql, username, and passwords' and yet I will get an
 error saying a column name doesn’t exist in the database when in fact I can
 see it in enterprise manager. ...
   

That looks like an database ownership issue. Try making your query of 
the form where the From aspect is a fully qualified [dbo].mytable, eg 
select thiscolumn from [dbo].myTable, rather than the more usual 
select thiscolumn from myTable. If that works then the restored 
database's owner is not your user. OTTOMH I cannot remember the 
knowledgebase article but look up sp_changedbowner in SQL books online 
and you will be in roughly the right place.

HTH,

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RE: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread Justin D. Scott
 Has anyone else experienced this issue and what do
 you recommend as a solution. Does it pay to persue
 finding a host running cf server 5 and does anyone
 know of one?

Personally, I would try to track down the issue and update the code if you
can run on a newer version of CF.  If anyone has a need for a specific
version of CF, the company I work for offers hosting on CF 5, 6, and 7 with
MSSQL Server 2000.  We also have solid e-mail service with very, very good
spam/virus filtering.


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RE: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop working?

2006-02-26 Thread Steve Kahn
Excellent idea Kym. On one of the datasources it worked fine, the other
continued to throw errors and not work.

-Original Message-
From: Kym Kovan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 6:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Can moving from cf server 5 to mx7 cause an app to stop
working?

Steve Kahn wrote:
 The database looks fine. I set up the
 site to have identical 'sql, username, and passwords' and yet I will get
an
 error saying a column name doesn’t exist in the database when in fact I
can
 see it in enterprise manager. ...
   

That looks like an database ownership issue. Try making your query of 
the form where the From aspect is a fully qualified [dbo].mytable, eg 
select thiscolumn from [dbo].myTable, rather than the more usual 
select thiscolumn from myTable. If that works then the restored 
database's owner is not your user. OTTOMH I cannot remember the 
knowledgebase article but look up sp_changedbowner in SQL books online 
and you will be in roughly the right place.

HTH,

Kym K





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Re: Getting data into Flash 8

2006-02-26 Thread dave
I'd call them a good host or any in that matter who makes sure stuff 
(especially beta products) aren't installed on a shared production server.

If your host lets you put whatever you want up, I would certain run like a mofo 
the other direction.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:59 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 

LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is like
them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call. You
pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal. As
said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing more
than a set of files you put on your server.

Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf
products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which
would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about 2
or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do it
especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is
continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to work
with the community.

IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As said,
that would be dumb.

On 2/26/06, dave  wrote:

 As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM
 is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as far as
 i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically speaking
 AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent.

 My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are running
 it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it?

 Not trying to dog it just being realistic.

  So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge.
 Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts
 telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like HELL
 F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT
 SH*T!! haha

 ~Dave the disruptor~

 
 From: John C. Bland II 
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM
 To: CF-Talk 
 Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

 Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly
 misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your
 site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That was
 it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel about
 amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it and
 doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know
 anything about copyrights either company owns.

 Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The
 documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out
 amfphp.org .

 So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do
 prefer
 Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy,
 if
 you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of
 knowledge.

 Just my 2 cents...

 On 2/25/06, dave wrote:
 
  I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites and
  that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky
 to
  use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt
 allow
  it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time.
 
  ~Dave the disruptor~
 
  
  From: John C. Bland II
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8
 
  Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step
  than
  CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't
 going
  to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation
  anyway. :-)
 
  On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote:
  
   Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
  
   Thanks Dave. I'll check that out.
  
   But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to
 do
   such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or
 7
   steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion.
  
   You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh?
  
   andy matthews
   web developer
   ICGLink, Inc.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   615.370.1530 x737
   --//-
  
   -Original Message-
   From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
  
  
   MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket
   

Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots)

2006-02-26 Thread dave
lol, ok lets try again..
Yes I caught Ricks error but even after adding the correct info it still 
errors.
The error was on newHeight=51, said that the = wasnt allowed in the expression 
or something.

hell you know I can't type, I ain't no secretary!

btw~ a kind soul from the hms forums a bit of code to your cfc to resize it 
square, if you want it lemme know.

 Hey Rick, I got an error last night when I went to page X last night

What was the error?

I don't know.

lol, well I can't help you there cause my stuff dont error ;)~

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:01 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: imagecfc ? (rick roots) 

dave wrote:
 
 But I had caught the error but it still got error.

You speaka da english?? ;) I assume you mean it's still not working.

It would be helpful to know exactly what error is occurring... 
otherwise, you sound like one of my users! It don't work, why not?... 
or my directory.

Hey Rick, I got an error last night when I went to page X last night

What was the error?

I don't know.

=)

Rick



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Re: Getting data into Flash 8

2006-02-26 Thread John C. Bland II
I don't want to go into a hosting dispute but any host who controls my
content and/or files is a bad one. That means, any product I develop that is
in beta stage can't be posted on their server which may be my testing
environment. It just contradicts the idea of purchasing X GB's/mo (or mb's)
for you to use for your own personal or business use if the content is
filtered. That's utterly ludicrous for a host to do such a thing.

These are just my opinions. I promise I won't respond to your hosting
comments if you decide to respond to this. I know this post has gone WOT.

Anyways, did you get the Remoting going? If you want side help I'd be more
than willing to jump into Breeze and show you hands-on how to do it. Just
let me know off list.

Thanks,

On 2/26/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd call them a good host or any in that matter who makes sure stuff
 (especially beta products) aren't installed on a shared production server.

 If your host lets you put whatever you want up, I would certain run like a
 mofo the other direction.

 ~Dave the disruptor~

 
 From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

 LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is
 like
 them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call.
 You
 pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal.
 As
 said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing
 more
 than a set of files you put on your server.

 Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf
 products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which
 would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about
 2
 or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do
 it
 especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is
 continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to
 work
 with the community.

 IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As
 said,
 that would be dumb.

 On 2/26/06, dave  wrote:
 
  As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM
  is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as
 far as
  i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically
 speaking
  AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent.
 
  My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are
 running
  it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it?
 
  Not trying to dog it just being realistic.
 
   So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge.
  Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts
  telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like
 HELL
  F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT
  SH*T!! haha
 
  ~Dave the disruptor~
 
  
  From: John C. Bland II
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8
 
  Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly
  misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your
  site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That
 was
  it. As for copyrights, etc MM has widely made it known how they feel
 about
  amfphp which is they are fine with it. They never had an issue with it
 and
  doubt they ever will. AMF goes beyond Flash Remoting so I don't know
  anything about copyrights either company owns.
 
  Yes, a full version has been released and it has GREAT improvements! The
  documentation is improved as well as the error messages. Check it out
  amfphp.org .
 
  So everyone knows, I am in no way affiliated with amphp folks and do
  prefer
  Remoting + CF. I just wanted it to be known that amfphp is just as easy,
  if
  you know PHP. So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of
  knowledge.
 
  Just my 2 cents...
 
  On 2/25/06, dave wrote:
  
   I know previously that amfphp wasnt to be used for commercial sites
 and
   that now adobe owns the copyrights on amf which would make a bit risky
  to
   use. Did it every get out of beta? I remember a lot of hosts wouldnt
  allow
   it to run since it was concidered a big security risk at the time.
  
   ~Dave the disruptor~
  
   
   From: John C. Bland II
   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:49 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8
  
   Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step
   than
   CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't
  going
   to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive
 conversation
   anyway. :-)
  
   On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig wrote:
   
Haha... remoting with PHP is 

Re: Getting data into Flash 8

2006-02-26 Thread dave
Actually I didn't ask for help with remoting was just responding.

As far as what you say about hosting, I totally disagree. If you are on a 
shared host in a production enviroment you shouldn't be allowed to do beta 
tests or anything even remotely close to that, do that on your dev machine or 
get your own server for your experiments. It's a production machine and not 
just yours but hundreds of other peoples as well and beta and experiments 
aren't for production servers, why would you think they are?  Next time your 
server is crashing just think oh hey I bet that's someone testing their beta 
product or code, I'm sure your customers will be real happy with that answer 
when they ask whey their site is going down a lot, it's bad enough with ppl 
running bad code.

Personally, I don't think it's off topic because we are talking about a 
technical issue and I would be curious to see what others say about it. I have 
been on servers that go down a lot and ppl say oh thats just coldfusion 
server but then I move to an new server and it purrs along with no problems 
then I find out it's because someones experimental code. Of course I could be 
wrong and shame on me for using a shared server and take the lumps and bumps 
but if everyone on a server had commen sense and didn't use it for their 
personal playground they wouldn't be crashing. If that's what you want get a 
dedicated server.

~Dave the disruptor~ 


From: John C. Bland II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:35 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8 

I don't want to go into a hosting dispute but any host who controls my
content and/or files is a bad one. That means, any product I develop that is
in beta stage can't be posted on their server which may be my testing
environment. It just contradicts the idea of purchasing X GB's/mo (or mb's)
for you to use for your own personal or business use if the content is
filtered. That's utterly ludicrous for a host to do such a thing.

These are just my opinions. I promise I won't respond to your hosting
comments if you decide to respond to this. I know this post has gone WOT.

Anyways, did you get the Remoting going? If you want side help I'd be more
than willing to jump into Breeze and show you hands-on how to do it. Just
let me know off list.

Thanks,

On 2/26/06, dave  wrote:

 I'd call them a good host or any in that matter who makes sure stuff
 (especially beta products) aren't installed on a shared production server.

 If your host lets you put whatever you want up, I would certain run like a
 mofo the other direction.

 ~Dave the disruptor~

 
 From: John C. Bland II 
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk 
 Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

 LOL. I'd like to talk to those hosts to see what their issue was. It is
 like
 them telling you no to putting Pear on the server. It isn't their call.
 You
 pay for space...put what you want on the server, as long as it is legal.
 As
 said, it doesn't take the host to install it. Again, amfphp is nothing
 more
 than a set of files you put on your server.

 Although Adobe has the patent I HIGHLY doubt they would nix other amf
 products. That will just limit Flash's use with other technologies which
 would be dumb. There is a free Remoting gateway for .net as well and about
 2
 or 3 for php. They would be dumb to stop it and I say they would never do
 it
 especially since MM was becoming so community driven and Adobe is
 continuing, and bettering it seems (hence the Flex 2 pricing, etc), to
 work
 with the community.

 IMO, Adobe will never tell everyone using amfphp they need to stop. As
 said,
 that would be dumb.

 On 2/26/06, dave wrote:
 
  As far as the patent goes, yes MM was letting it slide but as we know MM
  is no more and Adobe isn't so lenient with their copyrights, which as
 far as
  i know isn't just remoting it's for the AMF format, so technically
 speaking
  AMFPHP is running on Adobe's patent.
 
  My point to it is, what are all these people going to do that are
 running
  it IF Adobe decides to pull the pull on them using it?
 
  Not trying to dog it just being realistic.
 
   So many times technologies get bad raps due to the lack of knowledge.
  Yeah but that was because of prior problems, I remember several hosts
  telling me no way they'd put it on a shared server one was more like
 HELL
  F*CK NO YOU AINT COMING ANYWHERE NEAR MY F*CKIN SERVERS WITH THAT
  SH*T!! haha
 
  ~Dave the disruptor~
 
  
  From: John C. Bland II
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8
 
  Hosts had no control over amfphp. The install process was greatly
  misconstrued by many people. All you had to do was copy 1 folder to your
  site root and point the gateway.php file to your class location. That
 was
  it. 

RE: Getting data into Flash 8

2006-02-26 Thread Kevin Aebig
If you just want to argue for the sake of arguing, than I'll just gracefully
bow out, but if you think that novices have the first clue when it comes
to ECMA... you should try teaching them.

Their implementation was flawed for the first 7 releases and though I
commend them on their achievement, I can't believe that the functionality
they're providing is even comparable to CF, which is what I consider easy.

I'm done and out.

!k

-Original Message-
From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 4:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

You don't have to use nested associate arrays. You can use numerical or
associate. CF Stucts are nothing but associate arrays anyway. If you know
how to use PHP classes then you know at least what an array is. You can
return virtually any type in php to Flash. In the latest version you have
more types you can return (including xml).

http://www.amfphp.org/docs/datatypes.html

So you know, when I first used AMFPHP I didn't know PHP that well. I was the
definition of novice, in terms of PHP. But PHP classes are similar to ECMA
classes so it wasn't hard to catch on. If you aren't a PHP developer then
PHP itself is the problem...not AMFPHP. If you don't know CF then CF is the
problem...not Remoting w/ CF. PHP's learning curve is somewhat steep.

The issue with AMFPHP was the documentation was horrible at that point in
the game (early versions) so the installation portion was a pain. Everything
dealt with server-wide installation on Apache so it was terribly confusing.
Once I figured out it was just a folder everything else was a piece of cake.

On 2/26/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It depends what kind of implementation you're trying to accomplish. My
 point
 is that for someone without a lot of PHP experience, the nested
 associative
 arrays can intimidating.

 You seem to assume your views based on your own knowledge and skills, and
 that's fine. I judge software based on what an absolute novice would
 think...

 Cheers,

 Kevin

 -Original Message-
 From: John C. Bland II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:48 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Getting data into Flash 8

 Sorry Kevin, AMFPHP is terribly simple to use. It only has 1 more step
 than
 CF (which is the method table for restricting access, etc). I wasn't going
 to respond but I figured it was nothing but a constructive conversation
 anyway. :-)

 On 2/24/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Haha... remoting with PHP is a lot more difficult.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: February 24, 2006 1:48 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
 
  Thanks Dave. I'll check that out.
 
  But yeah, I feel that they do make it complicated...too many steps to do
  such a simple thing. How would you feel if you had to go through 6 or 7
  steps just to get some data back from a datasource using ColdFusion.
 
  You'd probably feel like you were coding in PHP eh?
 
  !//--
  andy matthews
  web developer
  ICGLink, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  615.370.1530 x737
  --//-
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 1:43 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: Getting data into Flash 8
 
 
  MM didn't make it complex, you are making it complex, it ain't rocket
  science.
 
  They pretty much do have drag and drop components already built in, you
  can
  have remoting working in under 30 seconds or there is the data connector
  that's built in that can get data from a cfc or web service, again in
  under
  30 seconds.
 
 


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  I suggest that you check out all the remoting tutorials at
 communitymx.com
  or specifically this one
  http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=ADF3B
 
  or asfusion.com has quite a bit of info as well.
 
  ~Dave the disruptor~
 
 
 
 
 



 



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