Re: postSizeLimit and postParameterLimit

2013-03-29 Thread Mack

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Justin Hansen jhan...@uhlig.com wrote:

 There is a bit of a debate going on, I was hoping the community could chime 
 in...

 What is a reasonable limit for the postSizeLimit and postParameterLimit 
 settings (aka maximum number of form fields)?
 100, 1,000, 10,000?

Tomcat has a default value of 1 for a somewhat equivalent
parameter (maxParameterCount):
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/config/http.html

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Re: postSizeLimit and postParameterLimit

2013-03-29 Thread Dave Watts

 What is a reasonable limit for the postSizeLimit and postParameterLimit 
 settings (aka maximum number of form fields)?
 100, 1,000, 10,000?

 On the one hand, we have a dynamic form with LOTS of fields. This is/was a 
 business requirement, it grew over time, it hit
 the limit, again. Of course we could spend days/hours rewriting the code, or 
 we can just up the limit and move on. (Yes,
 eventually it should get re-written, but that's not the point of this 
 inquiry.)

 On the other hand, we have security. The security camp says, the lower the 
 better. Is raising the limit from say 5,000 to
 6,000 really going to hurt us from a security point of view? How? Why?

 I have looked around and seen many a blog post about the settings. However, I 
 haven't see any information on what a good
 rule of thumb should be. Just where should we draw the line? How high is too 
 high and why?

It should be a bit larger, at least, than your largest form. That's
the only rule of thumb I can give you.

The goal of this setting is to prevent submission of large forms that
you are presumably not expecting to process. If you allow people to
submit very large forms, they could build their own HTTP POST with
large amounts of data which may effectively keep your server from
doing anything else. But if you actually have large forms that you
want to process, that's perfectly reasonable and you should be allowed
to do so.

I'm a pretty security-conscious person, and I'd recommend you simply
increase the limit to allow your current form to work.

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PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's

2013-03-29 Thread Rick Faircloth

Hi, all... Trying to get my server to pass PCI-Compliance and I was dinged for 
the server(CF) using non-random session id's (CFID's). They found three 
consecutive CFID'sin use.  However, I noticed in the CF documentation that 
CF-Tokens are random.And I opted for the long-form CF-Tokens in the 
administrator. Is there a way to use random CFID's or is that what the random 
CF-Tokens arefor: to provide a pair of variables, that together satisfy 
randomness requirementsfor sessions? Thanks for any feedback! Rick  
  

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Re: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's

2013-03-29 Thread Cameron Childress

Turning on use J2EE sessions will give you a cryptographically strong
random token.

-Cameron

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:

 Hi, all... Trying to get my server to pass PCI-Compliance and I was dinged
 for the server(CF) using non-random session id's (CFID's). They found three
 consecutive CFID'sin use.  However, I noticed in the CF documentation that
 CF-Tokens are random.And I opted for the long-form CF-Tokens in the
 administrator. Is there a way to use random CFID's or is that what the
 random CF-Tokens arefor: to provide a pair of variables, that together
 satisfy randomness requirementsfor sessions? Thanks for any feedback! Rick

 

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Re: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's

2013-03-29 Thread Dave Watts

 Hi, all... Trying to get my server to pass PCI-Compliance and I was dinged 
 for the server(CF) using non-random session id's
 (CFID's). They found three consecutive CFID'sin use.  However, I noticed in 
 the CF documentation that CF-Tokens are random.
 And I opted for the long-form CF-Tokens in the administrator. Is there a way 
 to use random CFID's or is that what the random
 CF-Tokens are for: to provide a pair of variables, that together satisfy 
 randomness requirements for sessions?

I don't think there's any way to control the values issued for CFID.
The CFTOKEN values are random and secure if you choose that option in
the CF Administrator. But I'd second Cameron's recommendation to use
J2EE sessions if you can. You'll get a single token that is secure.
Plus, the token will be discarded when the browser is closed.

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Using a variable to dynamically specify table name in CF10?

2013-03-29 Thread Marty Franklin

I am in the process of moving from CF8 to 10. I have a couple of queries 
where I dynamically specify the table name. For some reason this 
technique does not work in CF10?

So for instance...

cfset tblname = cooltbl

  cfquery name=dblist datasource=#application.ds#
 SELECT * FROM #tblname#
 /cfquery

Thanks is advance.

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Re: Sublime Text 2

2013-03-29 Thread Dan O'Keefe

Dave,

Great free video course here:
https://tutsplus.com/course/improve-workflow-in-sublime-text-2

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On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:28 AM, dave d...@northgoods.com wrote:


 Thanks Mark but I must be missing something. I downloaded the p-ackage
 control file. What screen must I be in when I do the Ctrl+shift+P?  When I
 do that from the opening screen, a drop down list appears with actions but
 if I type install nothing shows up and the dropdown list does not include
 any reference to Package Control.

 Did I miss something?

 Dave



 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Sublime Text 2


 
  Install this:
  http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/package_control
 
  Once you do that just do  Ctrl + shift + P
  Type install' and select Package Control: Install Package
 
  then look for cold fusion
 
 
  Sincerely
 
  Mark Drew
 
  On 28 Mar 2013, at 15:47, dave d...@northgoods.com wrote:
 
 
  I downloaded and installed Sublime Text 2 but I can't locate a CF
  package.
  Does anyone have the link to this?
 
  Dave
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: Using a variable to dynamically specify table name in CF10?

2013-03-29 Thread Russ Michaels

what is the error ?


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Marty Franklin ma...@assetresearch.comwrote:


 I am in the process of moving from CF8 to 10. I have a couple of queries
 where I dynamically specify the table name. For some reason this
 technique does not work in CF10?

 So for instance...

 cfset tblname = cooltbl

   cfquery name=dblist datasource=#application.ds#
  SELECT * FROM #tblname#
  /cfquery

 Thanks is advance.

 --

 Best Regards,

 *Marty Franklin*
 /Information Technology/

 *Asset Research Services, Inc.*
 ma...@assetresearch.com mailto:ma...@assetresearch.com




 

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Re: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's

2013-03-29 Thread Pete Freitag

Most (if not all) PCI scanning vendors will remove it from your report if
you explain that the session is based on BOTH the CFID and CFTOKEN values,
not just one, as long as you have Use UUID for CFTOKEN enabled (which in
CF9/10 is more than just a UUID).

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubESB87vl5U - FuseGuard your CFML in 10
minutes



On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 Hi, all... Trying to get my server to pass PCI-Compliance and I was dinged
 for the server(CF) using non-random session id's (CFID's). They found three
 consecutive CFID'sin use.  However, I noticed in the CF documentation that
 CF-Tokens are random.And I opted for the long-form CF-Tokens in the
 administrator. Is there a way to use random CFID's or is that what the
 random CF-Tokens arefor: to provide a pair of variables, that together
 satisfy randomness requirementsfor sessions? Thanks for any feedback! Rick

 

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Re: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's

2013-03-29 Thread Justin Scott

 Most (if not all) PCI scanning vendors will remove it from your report if
 you explain that the session is based on BOTH the CFID and CFTOKEN values,
 not just one, as long as you have Use UUID for CFTOKEN enabled (which in
 CF9/10 is more than just a UUID).

I can second that, we've run into this before and any QSA who knows
what they're doing will put an exception in place for this scenario.
Frankly I'm surprised more of them haven't built this in as a rule by
default when cfid and cftoken are both present.


-Justin

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RE: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's

2013-03-29 Thread Rick Faircloth

Thanks for the reply, Pete... If I remember all of the conversation correctly, 
when we came to the dingfor consecutive session variables, the scanning 
vendor rep did mention thefact that a CFToken was involved and that made a 
difference. I did look upthe information on this in the docs (CF9) and it did 
mention changing theCFToken to a long format (I didn't want to say UUID 
because, withoutlooking it up, I wasn't sure that's the way it was labeled). I 
have changed the CFToken to the long-format, so that should satisfy thevendor. 
I'm working with Security Metrics, the PCI-Compliance Vendorfor TD Bank. 
They've been very good about going over all the technicalitiesand offering 
suggestions and solutions to issues, such as this one.  Security Metrics has 
been good to work with so far and reasonably priced,so I thought I'd give them 
a shout-out. (btw, I own the company... no justkidding!) I have no connection 
to them at all. But thanks for the feedback, again, and just fyi, that's the 
only CF-relatedissue that came up at all in the compliance scan. :o) Rick
  To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Re: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's
 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:37:01 -0400
 From: p...@foundeo.com
 
 
 Most (if not all) PCI scanning vendors will remove it from your report if
 you explain that the session is based on BOTH the CFID and CFTOKEN values,
 not just one, as long as you have Use UUID for CFTOKEN enabled (which in
 CF9/10 is more than just a UUID).
 
 --
 Pete Freitag - Adobe Community Professional
 http://foundeo.com/ - ColdFusion Consulting  Products
 http://hackmycf.com - Is your ColdFusion Server Secure?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubESB87vl5U - FuseGuard your CFML in 10
 minutes
 
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Rick Faircloth
 r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
 
 
  Hi, all... Trying to get my server to pass PCI-Compliance and I was dinged
  for the server(CF) using non-random session id's (CFID's). They found three
  consecutive CFID'sin use.  However, I noticed in the CF documentation that
  CF-Tokens are random.And I opted for the long-form CF-Tokens in the
  administrator. Is there a way to use random CFID's or is that what the
  random CF-Tokens arefor: to provide a pair of variables, that together
  satisfy randomness requirementsfor sessions? Thanks for any feedback! Rick
 
  
 
 

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Re: Using a variable to dynamically specify table name in CF10?

2013-03-29 Thread William Seiter

What is the error message that you receive?

--
William Seiter 

On Mar 29, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Marty Franklin ma...@assetresearch.com wrote:

 
 I am in the process of moving from CF8 to 10. I have a couple of queries 
 where I dynamically specify the table name. For some reason this 
 technique does not work in CF10?
 
 So for instance...
 
 cfset tblname = cooltbl
 
  cfquery name=dblist datasource=#application.ds#
 SELECT * FROM #tblname#
 /cfquery
 
 Thanks is advance.
 
 -- 
 
 Best Regards,
 
 *Marty Franklin*
 /Information Technology/
 
 *Asset Research Services, Inc.*
 ma...@assetresearch.com mailto:ma...@assetresearch.com
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Sublime Text 2

2013-03-29 Thread Rick Faircloth

Hi, Dave... Have you tried going through Package Control to look fora CF 
package? It should show up there. Rick
  To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Sublime Text 2
 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:47:30 -0500
 From: d...@northgoods.com
 
 
 I downloaded and installed Sublime Text 2 but I can't locate a CF package. 
 Does anyone have the link to this?
 
 Dave 
 
 
 

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Re: Sublime Text 2

2013-03-29 Thread dave

Thanks Rick but I've already installed the package.

Now I just have to learn how to use it... and Windows 8.

BTW, does anyone know how to toggle back from fullscreen in the IE8 browser? 
F11 doesn't work in Windows 8 as it did in XP.  :-P

Thanks anyway.

Dave


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Sublime Text 2



 Hi, Dave... Have you tried going through Package Control to look fora CF 
 package? It should show up there. Rick
  To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: Sublime Text 2
 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:47:30 -0500
 From: d...@northgoods.com


 I downloaded and installed Sublime Text 2 but I can't locate a CF 
 package.
 Does anyone have the link to this?

 Dave




 

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Re: Sublime Text 2

2013-03-29 Thread dave

Thanks, I've watched a little and they're very helpful.

Dave


- Original Message - 
From: Dan O'Keefe dan.oke...@gmail.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Sublime Text 2



 Dave,

 Great free video course here:
 https://tutsplus.com/course/improve-workflow-in-sublime-text-2

 --
 Dan O'Keefe


 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:28 AM, dave d...@northgoods.com wrote:


 Thanks Mark but I must be missing something. I downloaded the p-ackage
 control file. What screen must I be in when I do the Ctrl+shift+P?  When 
 I
 do that from the opening screen, a drop down list appears with actions 
 but
 if I type install nothing shows up and the dropdown list does not 
 include
 any reference to Package Control.

 Did I miss something?

 Dave



 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Drew mark.d...@gmail.com
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:52 AM
 Subject: Re: Sublime Text 2


 
  Install this:
  http://wbond.net/sublime_packages/package_control
 
  Once you do that just do  Ctrl + shift + P
  Type install' and select Package Control: Install Package
 
  then look for cold fusion
 
 
  Sincerely
 
  Mark Drew
 
  On 28 Mar 2013, at 15:47, dave d...@northgoods.com wrote:
 
 
  I downloaded and installed Sublime Text 2 but I can't locate a CF
  package.
  Does anyone have the link to this?
 
  Dave
 
 
 
 
 



 

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RE: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's

2013-03-29 Thread UXB

Tell the PCI testing company that the session requires two tokens, CFID and
CFTOKEN, and while one is consecutive the other is random.  They will place
it in their testing as an exception.  We have to do this all the time with
each new client sigh even when it is the same testing company.  We have
never had any trouble or blowback on this issue once we tell them.


Dennis Powers
UXB Internet - A website Design and Hosting Company
P.O. Box 6028, Wolcott, CT 06716 - T:203-879-2844
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:49 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's


Hi, all... Trying to get my server to pass PCI-Compliance and I was dinged
for the server(CF) using non-random session id's (CFID's). They found three
consecutive CFID'sin use.  However, I noticed in the CF documentation that
CF-Tokens are random.And I opted for the long-form CF-Tokens in the
administrator. Is there a way to use random CFID's or is that what the
random CF-Tokens arefor: to provide a pair of variables, that together
satisfy randomness requirementsfor sessions? Thanks for any feedback! Rick




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RE: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's

2013-03-29 Thread Rick Faircloth

Thanks, Dennis! Rick
  To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Subject: RE: PCI-Compliance Ding for Non-Random CFID's
 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:03:23 -0400
 From: denn...@uxbinternet.com
 
 
 Tell the PCI testing company that the session requires two tokens, CFID and
 CFTOKEN, and while one is consecutive the other is random.  They will place
 it in their testing as an exception.  We have to do this all the time with
 each new client sigh even when it is the same testing company.  We have
 never had any trouble or blowback on this issue once we tell them.
 
 
 Dennis Powers
 UXB Internet - A website Design and Hosting Company
 P.O. Box 6028, Wolcott, CT 06716 - T:203-879-2844
 W: http://www.uxbinternet.com
 W: http://www.ctbusinesslist.com
  

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