Re: Number of site using ColdFusion
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Re: CFML broadcasting app
We wrote an email marketing system that we used for about 8 years. Our experience was that CFMAIL, since CF 7 at least, is plenty fast enough to send out very large numbers of emails. The ColdFusion programming was the easy side of things. The challenges were on the systems side. Email relays, like Postfix, can be configured to throttle mail to ISPs so that only a certain number go within a given time frame. Each ISP or mail server has its own rules. Your email system should listen to replies from the ISPs and back-off/delay as requested. While you can 'do it yourself' with Postfix, there are programs like PowerMTA, that do a lot of the work for you (http://www.port25.com/). We had to put our company email on another server because between the sending and the volume of bounce backs, etc our internal email slowed to a crawl. Expect that your mail admin will have to be regularly involved in responding to Blacklists, preemptively white listing your IPs, etc. Our volume got so high that we ended up going to SilverPop (http://www.silverpop.com/). We shelved our internal email marketing program and wrote programs to SilverPop's API to import and export from their system. Tens of thousands of emails a day is pretty serious and if you are going into the hundreds of thousands of emails a day territory then you really need to plan it out carefully. Hope this helps. David ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336099 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: how to maintain source code
SourceGear.com -- The Vault product is free for a single user. David ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:331782 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Where to encrypt - cf or db or both?
I want to encrypt billing information an ecommerce app. I know the argument against storing it, and we are considering not storing it. But I just want to explore options. So I can encrypt in cf with aes, or in sql server with a certificate and triple des symmetric key, or both cf AND sql server. What is the best choice? What is required for PCI compliance? Also, if I encrypt in sql server with a certificate and key, if I back up the live server and restore locally, will the data be accessible? Are the certificates and keys movable? There are legitimate reasons to store the credit card number. For instance, you can process transactions in batch mode over a phone line. In this case you do not need the security code (and storing it is not allowed) and costs may be less. Having said that, any new project in today's world should probably avoid storing the credit card number, if at all possible. If you go to the payment processor directly, real time, some of them have a 'profile' system where you create a customer profile and they store the credit card info. They give you a key to reference the card and then you only have to store the key and transaction ids and not the card number itself. This is the way to go. I think this is what Amazon and others do. If you are going to store the credit card number then I think you might want to look into a dual database system. One database on one server stores the order, the transaction info, and part of a two part key. The other database on another server stores the credit card (properly encrypted) info and the other part of the key. If done correctly, it would not be possible to get more than one card number at a time and then only with the correct key. Neither system should be accessible over the Internet. You should know the PCI, payment processor, and card issuer requirements before starting so that you get it right. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330982 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
E-commerce site session managment
I get to redo an e-commerce site. We sell event photos. There are some issues now that were not as big of an issue 7 or 8 years ago when the site was created. For instance, viewing the site in multiple tabs or browsers. I am wondering how other people do e-commerce session management? This is how the site currently works: In the application.cfm file there is a check for a session cookie. If the cookie is not found then one is created. The session is a unique hash. The session id is inserted into a database together with a time stamp. If the cookie is found then the current time is compared to the time stamp in the database. If it is within 2 hours then it updates the database row for that session with the current time. If it is more than 2 hours difference then it gives the user an expired session message. The user has to log in with their customer id to start the order process, so we can find and show their photos. If the user places an order then that is recorded against the session in the database. There is a check on the order related pages that the user has not already placed an order so that people don't back arrow and place a dupe. Is it safe/better to use the built in ColdFusion session management instead? The max number of users currently is up to 10,000 or 12,000 online at a time. Are there other ways people are handling this? Thank you, David ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330983 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
Thank you for the feedback and suggestions. We are using Open BlueDragon for a low traffic task tracker application. Since we had some experience with OBD it was felt that was the one to try. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316375 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
We have been using tmt_image.cfc for image cropping and CF8 image tag for watermarking etc. I am guessing the tmt_image.cfc will work with either OBD or Railo, but have not tried it. BlueDragon has, I believe, an image manipulation tag (had it before CF8). Was that removed from OBD? David Gertz, [quote] and some image manipulations (cropping, etc) [/quote] what's available with Railo for image manipulation? I currently use cfx_imagecr3 (great tag by the way) but as you know that is not java based so is not compatible any recommendations? Andrew. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316376 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Why is my CF8 server constantly hanging?
Only because I have overlooked this option more than once, there are server and exception logs under the CF directory. I guess you solved your issue, but for anyone else, it's worth looking at those logs once in a while. I have been surprised at what we've found. David ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316377 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
Does anyone have experience or know if Open BlueDragon or Railo are suitable for use in a high traffic e-commerce site? During the busiest times there are about 100,000 visitors between 8 AM and 7 PM during a day. The highest concentration is between 10 AM and 2 PM. There are lots of graphics, SSL sessions, and some image manipulations (cropping, etc). I would like to use one of them due to the savings, but do not want to risk problems with some critical sites if they need more time to develop. I have not heard of either being used in this type of context, but may have missed hearing about that if it was posted. Thank you, David ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316302 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Loop over field names
Another idea is instead of naming them like you intend with the currentRow: cfoutput query=someQuery input name=anID#currentRow# value=#anID# / input name=someField#currentRow# value=#someFieldValue# / input name=otherField#currentRow# value=#otherFieldValue# / /cfoutput Give the form fields that have the same data the same name, removing the currentRow appendage: cfoutput query=someQuery input name=anID value=#anID# / input name=someField value=#someFieldValue# / input name=otherField value=#otherFieldValue# / /cfoutput In JavaScript these fields that are named the same are treated as an array. You can have a hidden form field or write out a JavaScript variable with the number of records in the query: var numberOfRows = #someQuery.recordcount# - 0; // - 0 is a trick to indicate variable is numeric function someFunction() ( var row3 = document.myForm.anID[2].value; // JavaScript arrays are 0 based ) On the server side when the form is submitted, ColdFusion treats these form fields that are named the same as a list: cfset row3 = ListGetAt(anID, 3, ,) Hope this helps. Best, David ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:309126 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Converting .NET 2.0 App to ColdFusion
Hi Dave, If the site in on a LAN then using the ColdFusion Ajax makes that part easier. However, if the site is on the web then the CF Ajax libraries may not be the best route as they are large. The suggestion to take a file and work with it, is a good one as it will give you an idea of how complex or straightforward the code is. Also, you do not want to under-estimate the time involved. Mapping out the program flow and getting a pseudo code version will help too. If you understand the logic and flow the actual CF coding will go quickly. Good luck and have fun! David ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: DEATH to HOMESITE
Death to HomeSite+? You may have gotten your wish. I got a copy of the web CS3 suite with Dreamweaver and could not find a copy of HomeSite+. It had come bundled with previous versions of Dreamweaver. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Stopping a Screen Scrape
I am not sure how they are doing the screen scraping, but perhaps something like a clear gif stretched over the page would be an impediment (to cut and paste). Good luck. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:284026 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Multi-Language Site
Hi Bruce, The way I do this is to have the user pick a language (click on a flag if they want to change language). I then set a Language variable using the iso language code (such as 'en' or 'es'). I have a directory called 'resources' and under that a directory for each language. At the top of each page I include a file for that page with the text translations. Each string of text that a user sees on a page is a CF variable that is defined in the file for that page. For example: application_root\ about_us.cfm \resources \en about_us.en \es about_us.es In about_us.cfm I have something like this: cfinclude template=resources\about_us.#Language# html titlecfoutput#about_us_title#/cfoutput/title In about_us.en I have a cfscript block with the variables defined, for example: about_us_title = The title; In the about_us.es file I have something like: about_us_title = El título; This works pretty well for me since I only need to update the language files about once a year. If it was more often I would use the database and write a front-end for the translator. For dynamic data, such as product descriptions, there is a product_descriptions table that has columns along these lines: product_id product_description iso_language_code 100 The Thing en 100 La Cosa es You can do a join to your product table and product descriptions table on the product_id to get the appropriate text. I hope this helps. I don't suppose one could use some sort of content management system for this type of thing?? Best, David ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277560 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Smith CF server now open source
FYI, I checked the smithproject.org website and noticed that they have open sourced it. David ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF SQLite
I was playing around Smith and got a SQLite data source working. The steps I used are mentioned in their forum and probably have enough hints for using the JDBC driver with CFMX: http://www.smithproject.org/forum/posts/listByUser/16.page Otherwise, I think you should be able to the SQLite ODBC driver with CFMX (which is easier to setup). I have always used the SQLite DB browser tool to create the tables and then used PHP for the server side web stuff. If they open source Smith then I will convert that project to CFML. Best, David ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http:http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:267901 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
Last time I looked, the free version of Blue Dragon was still available on the New Atlanta ftp site: ftp://ftp.newatlanta.com For how long? David ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231065 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: avoiding direct SQL command injection
Hi Les, How about removing single quotes in application.cfm for the short term and submitting information from Adobe on the value of cfqueryparam for preventing sql injection in the hopes that helps for the future? David CFQUERYPARAM creates a prepared statement Just because some of you might find this fun and slightly related to the above... I'm working on a Congressional site at the moment, and Coldfusion is *very* poorly supported to start with. The official house supported version is CF5, so I'm having to rewrite most of my carefully crafted snippets and reusable code chunks. Anyway, once you're logged onto the house network and posted your files, they have to go through a security scan before they can go live. The scan doesn't take cfqueryparam into consideration at all, so my first scan of a dynamic page generated about 5 pages worth of failed reports that looked like: ScanDo included the ' (apostrophe) character in the parameter value. The server's reply indicates that the parameter is vulnerable to manipulation using SQL symbols. 1)High Severity URL: mypage-detail.cfm?id=97' Solution: Make sure parameter values sent by remote users do not include SQL commands or symbols. Validate and sanitize every user variable passed to the database. Check that the input has the expected data type. Never pass unchecked user-input to database-queries. Basically, the scan program tries about every SQL Injection trick known to man, and if you fail one of them, you don't go live. All my carefully written queries using cfqueryparam meant nothing. P! So, for every single variable passed to a query, about the only way to pass the security scan was to do this: cfif IsDefined(fname) and (findoneof(![^]+%!=,fname,1) NEQ 0) cfabort Sheesh. But, this presents a HUGE problem. The client has requested an admin section to update content on certain pages. So, a simple p tag which needs to get passed will trigger the cfabort above. ACK! I'm glad I'm getting paid well for this More later once I've got it all figured out on how to give the client what they want but pass all the required BS needed to get stuff approved, including the Secret Squirrel Security Code Generator that we've now got that display a security code to login into the house private network that changes every 60 seconds. This is fun stuff... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230695 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Who is using a large scale CMS?
There is also the open source FarCry CMS: http://farcry.daemon.com.au/ David All, How many of you are currently working and deploying on a large scale CF CMS such as CommonSpot or Hot Banana? N This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230591 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BlueDragon License Change
Thanks Casey. I will check it out. I also found this last night: http://www.ignitefusion.com/default.htm I submitted a post to the New Atlanta list as Charlie requested. David Sorry to add to an already blunted topic but for those who wish to get rid of licencing agreements... please check out my previous question on this crap. http://houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid:43959 Someone must be using Coral Web Builder. Other than that, get over it and Buy Coldfusion or BlueDragon Casey On 1/22/06, Yves Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230240 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BlueDragon License Change
Hi Charlie, Thank you for being straight and for mentioning that people could continue to use the earlier version according to its license. As I mentioned, I called the New Atlanta sales person who indicated that the change was a clarification of what had always been the intent, which made me feel bad about even using the previous version. Before calling New Atlanta I tried searching in the mailing list archive but I guess that 'license' and 'change' are too common to easily find the discussion of the change (that is why I called). Of course you don't have to have a press release, but when people call for clarification some good communication goes a long way. I am willing to chalk it up to mis-communication and know that the next guy who calls won't have the same communication problem I did. David P.S. Sorry for misspelling your name. Guys, all those links that have been pointed to are from the 6.1 release of BD. As has been noted by others, the license agreements has simply changed (like someone said, any company can and does do at times). The change was as of the 6.2 release. As someone else said, if you still have a 6.1 release of the product you can certainly still use it for commercial use. It's just that going forward the new license agreement stands. Like you said, Matt, you can't fault us for wanting to make money from the results of the hard work. That's really all this is about. Not anything about being an unhealthy company. Indeed, we've gone from strength to strength and each quarter's sales have exceeded the previous. This isn't a move of desparation, nor was it made without consideration about the very issues of concern some have raised. Things change. The free Server edition is still free, just not for commercial use. It's been discussed on our interest list, so it's not like we're hiding it. Should we have put out a press release? Written an article in the CFDJ, or perhaps a retraction of the previous ones? We've changed the web site, which is really all we really should be expected to have to do. Sure, some will want more, but put yourself in our shoes. As a for-profit company, our focus is more on solving the problems of folks who have a need for a need for our commercial products. We still offer the free version to satisfy the needs of a subset of the rest of the community. And the get all the benefits of the commercial edition (not a single tag is held back.) Can you give us credit for that sort of contribution? And to clarify, as some miss this, *all* the editions (including Server JX, and the enterprise-class J2EE and .NET editions) are free forever for single IP development use (after a 30 day trial that's not IP restricted, just like CF). /charlie *arehart* (someone spelled it Arendt) Really I can't fault New Atlanta for wanting to make money from results of their hard work, but pretending this is a clarification of the original intent when they originally sung free for production use to the heavens; as often as they could at the time -- as I'm sure most people do remember -- strikes me as a mistake. Not the sort of move you expect from a healthy company. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems http://mysecretbase. com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230176 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: BlueDragon License Change
I called New Atlanta and asked about this. I was told that this current license change was just a 'clarification' of what was always their intent. New Atlanta is certainly free to change the license for BD as they wish, I would just prefer they said that was what they were doing. Something like Hey guys, we are changing the license, but you can still use the previous version according to its license if you wish. When we first downloaded BD I filled out a questionaire and discussed with one of their sales people the uses we anticipated for the free version and that was fine (basically internal reporting). Now those same purposes (using them in a corporate environment) is not OK given the new license changes. I am slightly miffed as I feel like we were encouraged to use BD, but now New Atlanta's intent has changed (bait and switch). If they were up front about it, I would just compare BD and CF and decide which to buy, but I have a funny feeling about how this has played out and will probably just switch to CF or PHP. In addition to the wording of the license in previous versions, here are some other citations that I think indicate that this is a change and not a 'clarification': This article mentions that you are free to deploy it for production purposes (although it mentions you should read the license when downloading): http://cfdj.sys-con.com/read/42081.htm Here is a mention of BD being free for production use in Charlie Arendt's blog: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/cfml_compatibility_and_why_bluedragon.htm And here is another of Charlie's blog entries where he says it is free for your own organization's applications: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/bluedragon_61_free_server_now_featurepacked.htm Another blog entry where it is mentioned as free for development and deployment: http://bluedragon.blog-city.com/faq_how_much_does_bluedragon_cost.htm Too bad. I think the CFML world lost something here. David David McCan wrote: Someone I work with noticed a change in the wording of the BlueDragon free edition license. The license for 6.2 says ...license to download, install and use BlueDragon Server on a single Server machine for development, testing and deployment purposes. The 6.2.1 license says ...license to download, install and use BlueDragon Server for development, testing and non-commercial deployment purposes. Note the addition of the words non-commercial. Has anyone else noticed this? I recall reading how we were able to deploy BlueDragon free edition for any purpose (except for redistributing it). My understanding of the license was that If you make money using our product, then we need to make money off our product also. I believe this has always been the intention of their License. It's just hard to word something like that in leagal speak. This seems fair to me personally. NA has an awesome VAR program - if you intend to make money using BD. It might be worth a look if you're deploying it for commercial purposes and should be able to make everyone involved happy. HTH, -JM -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230163 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
BlueDragon License Change
Someone I work with noticed a change in the wording of the BlueDragon free edition license. The license for 6.2 says ...license to download, install and use BlueDragon Server on a single Server machine for development, testing and deployment purposes. The 6.2.1 license says ...license to download, install and use BlueDragon Server for development, testing and non-commercial deployment purposes. Note the addition of the words non-commercial. Has anyone else noticed this? I recall reading how we were able to deploy BlueDragon free edition for any purpose (except for redistributing it). ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230064 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
