JSPHTTP?
Does anyone know if there is a JSHTTP command like CFHTTP? For those interested in ASPHTTP, there is a module available from serverobjects.com but I have not tried it out myself yet. John -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Slightly OT
Try note tab light www.notetab.com. It comes in freeware, nominal and professional variety. Its quite good, but homesite is better because homesite has a button for every html widget. Other than that, textpad in windows. - Original Message - From: Matthew Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:23 PM Subject: RE: Slightly OT Does anyone have experience with homesite? I need to recommend a SIMPLE wysiwyg editor to a customer of mine. Is Homesite Wysywyg or an HTML editor?, and if it's html, can anyone recommend a simple wys...editor BESIDES front page? HomeSite is great. I think it has a church set up in its name. It certainly has the followers (perhaps the disenchanted flock from the Church of Netscape). But it's definitely not WYSIWYG. Dreamweaver's a good choice, but there are others. One thing with DW is that it assumes you know what you are doing. If you don't know HTML it might be best to look elsewhere. It's good at dHTML tricks. One thing to consider is whether or not any server-side material will be in the pages (server-side includes, blocks of ASP, whatever) and if so, whether the WYSIWYG editor will screw it up. I met a graphic designer using PageMill recently and the code looked exceptionally messy, full of nested fixed width tables of ridiculous sizes (width="879" etc.), and empty cells, and proprietary mark-up. This is not just an uptight geek thing either. Messy code with extraordinarily complex fixed size tables is not the way to create flexible, liquid, fast Web pages. It's a fact: you can't get past mediocre using this kind of software. Great for graphic designers though who don't like things moving around and have twin 17 inch screens. Keeps them out of my business. (Disclaimer: I don't know whether or not it was the latest version.) On the HS / CF Studio question -- I have both running here, and I'm constantly amazed at the extent of support for CFML built into HS. I think the biggest difference is the colour of the icon. Regards, Matthew Walker Electric Sheep Web Co. http://www.electricsheep.co.nz/ -- Tel +64-3-374 2137 Fax +64-3-377 7930 P O Box 13-907, Armagh Christchurch 8031 New Zealand -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Slightly OT
Homesite is great but Studio is better for CF. Both tend to take up a bit of system resources though. - Original Message - From: Kelly Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Slightly OT Home site is great i made it the standard at our location. Kelly --- Kelly Matthews Internet Development Coordinator AAAE 703.578.2509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.airportnet.org --- -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Cohen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:08 PM To: House OfFusion Subject: Slightly OT Does anyone have experience with homesite? I need to recommend a SIMPLE wysiwyg editor to a customer of mine. Is Homesite Wysywyg or an HTML editor?, and if it's html, can anyone recommend a simple wys...editor BESIDES front page? Thanks, Jeffrey Cohen ImageWorks -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CF Training?
Join a startup or any firm that will take you as a web developer (HTML, CFML, SQL, VB, etc). Ideally they will already have a senior CF developer that you can pick up a few things from. You'll want to get at least 12-18 months under your belt after which you can pick which company you want to join. In my case I came from an econ background, took 8 months of classes in C/C++ at GWU, and was asked up by a startup web firm/friends to do HTML, ASP and CF.. so basically self taught as are a lot of people here. Just remember not to shy away from the challenging stuff, or stuff you haven't done. Thats where you learn the most. Hi all! I have read CFWACK4.0 cover to cover (along with doing all the = exercises) and am starting on the Advanced book. I'm wondering if I = should attend the training courses by Allaire, FT to CF and Advanced CF = development. I have starting writing applications on the side for = people, but I would like to make this my full-time career (I love this = stuff!). OK CF gurus, how do I get my foot in the door for a career in = CF? My background (I'll keep this short) is a BA in Biology with a = minor in math and some misc additional courses that mean just as little. = The important stuff I've been working on though is self-study in CF, = SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects Fusion and Access. Please advise!! Thanks, Christine --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3017.1000" name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Hi all!/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I have read = CFWACK4.0 cover to=20 cover (along with doing all the exercises) and am starting on the = Advanced=20 book.nbsp; I'm wondering if I should attend the training courses by = Allaire, FT=20 to CF and Advanced CF development.nbsp; I have starting writing = applications on=20 the side for people, but I would like to make this my full-time career = (I love=20 this stuff!).nbsp; OK CF gurus, how do I getnbsp;my foot in the door = for a=20 career in CF?nbsp; /FONTFONT face=3DArial size=3D2My background = (I'll keep this=20 short) is a BA in Biology with a minor in math and some = miscnbsp;additional=20 courses that mean just as little.nbsp; Thenbsp;important stuff I've = been=20 working on though is self-study in CF, SQL, Visual Basic, NetObjects = Fusion and=20 Access.nbsp;nbsp; Please advise!!/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;=20 nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; = nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;=20 nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Thanks,nbsp;=20 Christine/FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0009_01BFCB33.E53B42A0-- -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CF vs ASP
Well another thing I found out this weekend reading through my ASP 3.0 book is two things I think are a little slow in CF. First is that you can program functions in ASP ie sub Calculate() code here end sub I dont know what the CF response to this is, perhaps the custom template comes closest. I suspect there is a "function" function in CF but not well versed with it yet. The other thing I am seeing in ASP 3.0 is extensive use of XML conversion without having to go through regex or WDDX as we do now. I havent read the full chapter but it looks like you can pull info from a XML data island right in ASP. There's a lot of WDDX stuff out there for CF right now but I'd like to see XSL for CF become more easier and widespread. - Original Message - From: Bridget Corkery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:22 AM Subject: CF vs ASP I wrote on Friday to ask for some good resources or reasons why CF is a better application developer than ASP. Although I did receive some really good references, I didn't receive nearly as much of a response as I thought I would. The web references are great and I know that everyone is very busy so I am just throwing it out one more time in case anyone missed it over the holiday weekend. I have been using CF for about 7 months and love it. However, I started at a new company who initially said that using CF wouldn't be a problem. Now it seems that the IT department would like to standardize the products we use and would like to use ASP. I have found several articles comparing the two, in which CF always wins; but I really need as much input, insight and advice that I possibly can on this issue because I am now a complete advocate of CF. Thanks very much and I apologize for sending the same issue in twice. Bridget -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: grouping with math functions
Try something like this. cfoutput tr td#totaltrials#/td td#variety#/td td#avgyield#/td CFSET trialpercent = (totaltrials/variety) * 100 TD#trialpercent# %/TD /tr/cfoutput Is that what you are trying to do? You can also use the NumberFormat(trialpercent, arg). You will want to look it up to see how to set it to 1 or 2 decimal places. - Original Message - From: Deanna L. Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 6:53 AM Subject: grouping with math functions Okay, let me re-state my question of yesterday. I have the results of a query printing out like so: h3Side By Side Results/h3 cfoutput query="getaggresults2" group="standage" h4Stand Age: #standage# Year/h4 table cellpadding="5" tr thTotal Trials/th thVariety/th thYield/th /tr cfoutput tr td#totaltrials#/td td#variety#/td td#avgyield#/td /tr/cfoutput /table /cfoutput Notice that I'm using the implicit loops that occur with cfoutput. The problem is, what I really want to do is divide the first outputted avg yield by the second outputted avg yield and multiply by 100 to get a percentage. I'm thinking I might need to output into a structure or something, but I've never worked with structures, and I'm not even positive this would be the best approach. Suggestions? Url is http://dev.cf.uwex.edu/ces/ag/alfalfa Thanks, Deanna Deanna Schneider Interactive Media Developer UWEX Cooperative Extension Electronic Publishing Group 103 Extension Bldg 432 N. Lake Street Madison, WI 53706 (608) 265-7923 -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: grouping with math functions
You should use the SQL to grab the variable SELECT SUM(fieldname) WHERE variety = 'parameter' AS variabletouse which is much easier than building a lot of constructs to loop and total the data. hmm which makes me wonder can you do: SELECT AVERAGE(fieldname) WHERE var = 'param' AS soandso If former then do CFSET average = variabletouse/queryname.recordcount and numberformat it. Sorry if that didnt get you any further. The formula you need is complex and a little bit hard to visualize.. Where is Dave Watts when you need him? - Original Message - From: Deanna L. Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:48 AM Subject: Re: grouping with math functions What I want is the to get all the trials that have BOTH variety 1 and variety 2 (chosen by the user) and that also meet the state and year criteria (also chosen by the user). Then, I need to determine the average yield by variety, and figure out the percent of variety one, by variety two for each "stand age". I'm getting the "raw" data that I need with my plethora of queries - i.e. I'm limiting the data to only those trials that involve both varieties and meet state and year criteria, and I'm getting the avg yield for each variety by stand age. What I can't figure out how to do is to get the results set to variables that I can then divide by each other. For example, I'd like to be able to say: cfoutput cfset "variety1standage1" = yieldage ---How do I tell it "which" yieldage? cfset "variety2standage1" = yieldage cfset "percentyield" = variety1standage1/variety2standage1 * 100 /cfoutput But, I can't figure out how to set the variables correctly while using the implicit loop. (i.e. is there a counter to tell me which variety is being outputted at a specific time?) By the way, John: thanks, but variety is just the name of the variety, not the yield. Make sense? I know there's probably an easier way to do the sql, but I got my head stuck in this trap, and I haven't been able to figure out the sql. This isn't a site where they're worried about speedy performance, so it's not a huge issue. thanks, d Deanna Schneider Interactive Media Developer UWEX Cooperative Extension Electronic Publishing Group 103 Extension Bldg 432 N. Lake Street Madison, WI 53706 (608) 265-7923 -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: grouping with math functions
BTW i think if you put an INDEX in the CFOUTPUT then it will tell you which number of the loop you are on... See a reference for more info... - Original Message - From: Deanna L. Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:48 AM Subject: Re: grouping with math functions What I want is the to get all the trials that have BOTH variety 1 and variety 2 (chosen by the user) and that also meet the state and year criteria (also chosen by the user). Then, I need to determine the average yield by variety, and figure out the percent of variety one, by variety two for each "stand age". I'm getting the "raw" data that I need with my plethora of queries - i.e. I'm limiting the data to only those trials that involve both varieties and meet state and year criteria, and I'm getting the avg yield for each variety by stand age. What I can't figure out how to do is to get the results set to variables that I can then divide by each other. For example, I'd like to be able to say: cfoutput cfset "variety1standage1" = yieldage ---How do I tell it "which" yieldage? cfset "variety2standage1" = yieldage cfset "percentyield" = variety1standage1/variety2standage1 * 100 /cfoutput But, I can't figure out how to set the variables correctly while using the implicit loop. (i.e. is there a counter to tell me which variety is being outputted at a specific time?) By the way, John: thanks, but variety is just the name of the variety, not the yield. Make sense? I know there's probably an easier way to do the sql, but I got my head stuck in this trap, and I haven't been able to figure out the sql. This isn't a site where they're worried about speedy performance, so it's not a huge issue. thanks, d Deanna Schneider Interactive Media Developer UWEX Cooperative Extension Electronic Publishing Group 103 Extension Bldg 432 N. Lake Street Madison, WI 53706 (608) 265-7923 -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Tell a friend
The link should go to a self-posting form with CFMAIL, body = #cgi.http_referrer# (or whichever that property is)... Form attributes= From, From email, To, To email, Title, comments and cgi.http_referrer. - Original Message - From: Smad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:29 PM Subject: Tell a friend How do I create a "Tell a friend" feature? I want to be able to submit the page link automaticaly, based on the page where the user is, and the person who sent it, with a certain message. Is there perhaps a tag for this? Thanks. Smad -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Opinions on tuning...
Depends on a number of things, like are you trying to save memory or get more speed out of it, or just have all the data binded to a key for easy access? Also depends on what you are building too. Personally I go for a lot of independent structures so some kind of error won't corrupt the entire bag (simplest= always works best/modular/fast to develop and debug). But if you are building a massively related data structure then just put it all in one structure. - Original Message - From: Scott Weikert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:03 AM Subject: Opinions on tuning... Ok gang, speak out - Two options, which does the peanut gallery think is superior? 1) Creating a structure within an application variable - structure having many many keys, with arrays full of options tied to each key - or 2) Creating multiple application variables, with a structure inside, holding the same sort of array as above. Basically, option 1 is lumping all goodies in one big application variable, option 2 is making one application variable for each set of goodies. Thoughts? --Scott -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: Comparison sites in CF
If you're lucky, some vendors set up cgi interfaces so that anyone can bounce a query off it and give you the results for whatever it is you are looking for. In my case, a friend wanted to sell baseball cards online and one of the big card sites (Topps or whatever) had some kind of cgi interface so you could send it various info (year, player, etc) and it would send you back a price. If you're going to do it this way then just create a form to send the parameters to the cgi interface form method=POST action="http://www.topps.com/ecommerce.cfm" although it would probably be better to use CFHTTP and CFHTTPPARAM. - Original Message - From: Joel Firestone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: cf-talk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 7:02 AM Subject: Comparison sites in CF Everyone: Looking for a little insight. I'm interested in setting up a comparison feature for my web site. I've seen several sites that do it (books, computers, software, etc.) and I'm wondering: Do they get a current db from all of the vendors to compare with? Or do they write their own components to go out and get the prices "on-the-fly"? What would the best scenario? I figured the first would be alot faster, but the second would be alot more current. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. === Joel Firestone - Developer Delmarva Online http://www.dmv.com/ -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: OT: School Days - (was: Lighten things up a little)
A nice thing that happened since about 93 is that the web languages and tools COLDFUSION became very easy to understand. As such it opens the door for a lot of people, which is good. What should you be looking for from an (advanced?) college degree? Real computing techniques and know-how. Want to write your own ultra-encrypted security system? Do a few semesters of research on huge prime numbers, encryption... Other courses include neural networking and aritificial intelligence; all the good stuff that makes math majors cry. For those who really hate windows, you can apply to MIT where they make you write your own operating system (stdin,stdout,stderr tools) for a school project. IMHO, you dont need an advanced degree in this day and age. If you can crank out a finished, functional product then you can make money. If you are really interested in making computers come alive, then try on a few classes. Aint nothing wrong with learning something. :) - Original Message - From: Todd Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: Re: OT: School Days - (was: Lighten things up a little) OK .. I'll give you that, but then again, how hard would it really be to pick up on those concepts on your own? I don't doubt the value of that degree in certain situations; It *can* give you an edge. In many cases, especially when dealing with jobs involving new technology, just having the degree is more important than what it's in .. if the degree is even important at all. A college education does tend to make one a more well rounded individual and I suppose that's desirable to some people. Unfortunately, the way I see it is that the college degree won't play a big role for me until I get more experience under my belt and move on up into much more competitive markets. In today's computer age, you can go a good long ways without one, but they really help if you want to get to the top :) So .. I say if you have the chance to go, take it. It can't hurt and will help, even if indirectly. Besides, I just want to say I is edumacated .. That's why I'm going back for a masters in biology. :) Heh .. wonder how I can work that into ColdFusion development? hmmm .. cf_mitosis? Or maybe start a new company, hire Linus Torlvolds and call it Transmetaphase? OK .. I'm just being silly now. Seriously, has anyone had any experience with ColdFusion jobs where the employers were concerned with the level of post secondary education? I'm really curious now. .Todd - Original Message - From: "Olive, Christopher M Mr USACHPPM" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 12:08 PM Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Lighten things up a little | i'm afraid i'd have to disagree with that. i may not "use" anything i | learned in college in respect that they never taught me ASP, CF, IIS, etc. | however, the concept of a stack, queue, linked list, structure, array, etc., | is universal to languages (ok, well, most languages). it is in | *understanding* the concepts of these things that college shows its value. | because of this (fairly) solid foundation in programming *theory*, i am | better able to leverage my skill sets in languages i know. more | importantly, they help me in learning something new. when you boil it down, | all languages are the same (ok, there are sub-types of programming languages | (procedural, functional, OO)), all you need to know is where to put the semi | colons. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: OT: School Days - (was: Lighten things up a little)
The government has had a long history of requiring its contractors to employ people with degrees and advanced degrees. I am in the Washington area and all of the big contractors Lockheed etc really want these BS of Computer people which is why they get such fat salary packages for 21 year olds with no experience but a BS degree. One figure I was quoted was like 48,000 to start, not including signing bonus. That just seems like a lot to me :) Uncle Sam is beginning to loosen the requirements for its contractors though. - Original Message - From: Kelly Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 10:57 AM Subject: RE: OT: School Days - (was: Lighten things up a little) i worked government contracts for 4 years my 2 year music degree was enough never had a problem getting a job where a Bachelors was required, however I did have to back up my qualifications with proof and experience which was easy enough. I think with Gov. Contracts your PAY may suffer a little if you dont hvae the degree but outside of government it hasnt mattered one bit for me. Kelly -Original Message- From: Howell, Katie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: School Days - (was: Lighten things up a little) ok, I'll bite: BA in theater design (believe it or not, the drafting/scenic design classes really help with page layout) then back to school (16 yrs later) for a masters in Computer Resources and Information Management. My 2 bits for the value of a degree...when working for a government contractor, having a degree (in my experience anyway) is almost a requirement. When your company bids on a gov't job, they actually list how many staff members have advanced degrees. -Original Message- From: Sharon DiOrio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: School Days - (was: Lighten things up a little) Bachelor of Fine Arts here. "Well, the application is busted, but it sho does look purty." Sharon At 01:24 PM 5/15/2000 -0400, Olive, Christopher M Mr USACHPPM wrote: oddly enough, my degree is a split major in writing and computer science. ;) Chris Olive DOHRS Website Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Stewart McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:18 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: OT: School Days - (was: Lighten things up a little) I don't know about in the states but out of ten developers, nine have degrees in technical subjects and well the boss has an english degree :) Stew -Original Message- From: Todd Ashworth [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 May 2000 18:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: School Days - (was: Lighten things up a little) OK .. I'll give you that, but then again, how hard would it really be to pick up on those concepts on your own? I don't doubt the value of that degree in certain situations; It *can* give you an edge. In many cases, especially when dealing with jobs involving new technology, just having the degree is more important than what it's in .. if the degree is even important at all. A college education does tend to make one a more well rounded individual and I suppose that's desirable to some people. Unfortunately, the way I see it is that the college degree won't play a big role for me until I get more experience under my belt and move on up into much more competitive markets. In today's computer age, you can go a good long ways without one, but they really help if you want to get to the top :) So .. I say if you have the chance to go, take it. It can't hurt and will help, even if indirectly. Besides, I just want to say I is edumacated .. That's why I'm going back for a masters in biology. :) Heh .. wonder how I can work that into ColdFusion development? hmmm .. cf_mitosis? Or maybe start a new company, hire Linus Torlvolds and call it Transmetaphase? OK .. I'm just being silly now. Seriously, has anyone had any experience with ColdFusion jobs where the employers were concerned with the level of post secondary education? I'm really curious now. .Todd - Original Message - From: "Olive, Christopher M Mr USACHPPM" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 12:08 PM Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Lighten things up a little | i'm afraid i'd have to disagree with that. i may not "use" anything i | learned in college in respect that they never taught me ASP, CF, IIS, etc. | however, the concept of a stack, queue, linked list, structure, array, etc., | is universal to languages (ok, well, most languages). it is in |
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Re: Slightly OT: Lighten things up a little
LOL - Original Message - From: Lon Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Lighten things up a little From: "Fred T. Sanders" [EMAIL PROTECTED] na, that would mean I'd have to go out and get a life, and I hear those are expensive. I hear you can get one on Priceline. They're importing them from Canada, I believe. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
