(ot) A word of hosting caution
Hi All, Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger). Make sure that they have your account up to date!! They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!! This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and this policy could be destructive. One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they had on file with our account. Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone! Thankfully they still had a backup. So just a word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-) ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my satisfaction. Cheers -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344159 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) A word of hosting caution
To be honest, after HMS became part of Hosting.com, their service went so far downhill so fast that I moved everything to other hosting companies. HMS used to be awesome when Lou and Neil were in charge but after the acquisition I had nothing but problems and once Lou and Neil left things really fell apart :( And can I just take this opportunity yet again to say that shared hosting is not appropriate to run a business on? Anyone on the same server can read your entire application scope and get access to any information you have cached there - and the uptime of your business is dependent on the good behavior of everyone who shares that server. I ran my blog on HMS shared hosting for several years but eventually had to move it to VPS due to performance problems (I suspect HMS put 100's of customers on each server...). Later I had performance problems with the HMS VPS as well (again, too many customers sharing a server I think). Now I'm on an EWH enterprise cloud server (which I believe has a strictly limited number of customers per box?). Sean On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger). Make sure that they have your account up to date!! They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!! This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and this policy could be destructive. One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they had on file with our account. Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone! Thankfully they still had a backup. So just a word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-) ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my satisfaction. Chee ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344164 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) A word of hosting caution
Sean, let me add that I have written code that not only accesses ALL the application scopes running on a shared server, but I can also wrote code that can access all the session scopes inside each application. Shared hosting is not a safe secure option for a business. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On May 3, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Sean Corfield wrote: To be honest, after HMS became part of Hosting.com, their service went so far downhill so fast that I moved everything to other hosting companies. HMS used to be awesome when Lou and Neil were in charge but after the acquisition I had nothing but problems and once Lou and Neil left things really fell apart :( And can I just take this opportunity yet again to say that shared hosting is not appropriate to run a business on? Anyone on the same server can read your entire application scope and get access to any information you have cached there - and the uptime of your business is dependent on the good behavior of everyone who shares that server. I ran my blog on HMS shared hosting for several years but eventually had to move it to VPS due to performance problems (I suspect HMS put 100's of customers on each server...). Later I had performance problems with the HMS VPS as well (again, too many customers sharing a server I think). Now I'm on an EWH enterprise cloud server (which I believe has a strictly limited number of customers per box?). Sean On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger). Make sure that they have your account up to date!! They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!! This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and this policy could be destructive. One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they had on file with our account. Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone! Thankfully they still had a backup. So just a word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-) ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my satisfaction. Chee ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344166 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) A word of hosting caution
Yes I saw the samejust wasn't going to rant as we are already in the processing of moving to Viviotech ;-) +1 on the no shared hosting.in our case it was a small DB left behind after we went VPS at HMS. It's truly sadevery awesome host I've ever dealt with has gone through a merger that killed all the reasons why I selected them in the first place Cheers On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 09:29 -0700, Sean Corfield wrote: To be honest, after HMS became part of Hosting.com, their service went so far downhill so fast that I moved everything to other hosting companies. HMS used to be awesome when Lou and Neil were in charge but after the acquisition I had nothing but problems and once Lou and Neil left things really fell apart :( And can I just take this opportunity yet again to say that shared hosting is not appropriate to run a business on? Anyone on the same server can read your entire application scope and get access to any information you have cached there - and the uptime of your business is dependent on the good behavior of everyone who shares that server. I ran my blog on HMS shared hosting for several years but eventually had to move it to VPS due to performance problems (I suspect HMS put 100's of customers on each server...). Later I had performance problems with the HMS VPS as well (again, too many customers sharing a server I think). Now I'm on an EWH enterprise cloud server (which I believe has a strictly limited number of customers per box?). Sean On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger). Make sure that they have your account up to date!! They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!! This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and this policy could be destructive. One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they had on file with our account. Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone! Thankfully they still had a backup. So just a word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-) ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my satisfaction. Chee ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344174 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) A word of hosting caution
I moved my blog out of there a while ago, I found Allurium http://alurium.com/clients/aff.php?aff=011 I couldn't beat the price. As an FYI, they're running Railo, if your code is running anything specific to ACF then you'll need to make changes. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Hi All, Just a notice to possibly help save someone some grief if you host at Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com before the merger). Make sure that they have your account up to date!! They have a policy where if they find a database who's name is not found on anyone's account - they blindly delete it with no notice!!! This is an odd policy given the number of errors I found in our own accountI can only assume other accounts are in similar states and this policy could be destructive. One of our SQL Server DBs on a shared box had a name that WAS the same as the datasource setup pointing to it, however it was not the name they had on file with our account. Boomthe DB for the backend of our corporate site was gone! Thankfully they still had a backup. So just a word of caution to make sure your accounts are up to date and accurate or you might just get a nasty surprise ;-) ...and for the record, this is not sour grapes in any wayjust looking out for the community.the issue was resolved to my satisfaction. Cheers -- Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com Notice: This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
