(ot) AWS / EC2 and SpamLists

2010-11-18 Thread Brook Davies

This a bit OT. I just wanted to share what I'd found, in case anyone else is
considering moving to the cloud. Its certainly attractive, and being able to
spin up a new server from an image configured with webserver, CF, OS and
your website files in under 5 minutes is pretty cool. 

 

Just keep one thing in mind. Sending email from the cloud (at least from
Amazons) is problematic at best. The IP's (Elastic IP's), that we were
assigned we're already in the SpamHaus database and other RBLs. And we NSI
wouldn't let us set up a cname record with those IPs. 

 

There *are* procedures to get your IP's removed/whitelisted but I don't
think you can count on this since there are so many blacklists and your
sharing an IP range, so your neighbour could get you in trouble again in the
future. 

 

For me, I can't risk emails not getting delivered (new user account
registrations, password reminders, notifications, campaigns - all of em), so
the solution is to maintain an SMTP server at a co-lo or dedicated server
location that you can trust to do your mail sending. Or use an outsourced
email (smtpauth.com,jangosmtp.com) service. You can also set up a VPC with
your existing hardware from  the cloud and 'talk' to it like it was on your
local network. 

 

Anyhow, I just wanted to put this out there. I was stoked to move to the
cloud, and this threw a bit of a wrench in the idea, since having to
maintain a server somewhere for sending email is kinda of a pain in the
butt.




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Re: (ot) AWS / EC2 and SpamLists

2010-11-18 Thread Dave Merrill

Check out http://postmarkapp.com. Depending on the volume of mail you
need to send, it's either pretty cheap, or worth it for their tracking
tools.

Dave

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Brook Davies cft...@logiforms.com wrote:

 This a bit OT. I just wanted to share what I'd found, in case anyone else is
 considering moving to the cloud. Its certainly attractive, and being able to
 spin up a new server from an image configured with webserver, CF, OS and
 your website files in under 5 minutes is pretty cool.



 Just keep one thing in mind. Sending email from the cloud (at least from
 Amazons) is problematic at best. The IP's (Elastic IP's), that we were
 assigned we're already in the SpamHaus database and other RBLs. And we NSI
 wouldn't let us set up a cname record with those IPs.



 There *are* procedures to get your IP's removed/whitelisted but I don't
 think you can count on this since there are so many blacklists and your
 sharing an IP range, so your neighbour could get you in trouble again in the
 future.



 For me, I can't risk emails not getting delivered (new user account
 registrations, password reminders, notifications, campaigns - all of em), so
 the solution is to maintain an SMTP server at a co-lo or dedicated server
 location that you can trust to do your mail sending. Or use an outsourced
 email (smtpauth.com,jangosmtp.com) service. You can also set up a VPC with
 your existing hardware from  the cloud and 'talk' to it like it was on your
 local network.



 Anyhow, I just wanted to put this out there. I was stoked to move to the
 cloud, and this threw a bit of a wrench in the idea, since having to
 maintain a server somewhere for sending email is kinda of a pain in the
 butt.




 

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