Re: 32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-12 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 I finally pulled the plug on the 64 but and installed the 32 bit CF version.

I'm also using CF 32bit, but it is because of some 32bit CFXs, but I did have 
the 64bit running with Access datasources.
I have Access 2003 installed on the server, may be you need it to bring the 
correct 32bit drivers.


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Re: 32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-11 Thread Ben Conner

Tried that and it was still an issue; Couldn't see any dsn's defined through 
the 
odbcad32 applet, and when I tried to point to it via a jdbc entry, the only 
databases listed in the dropdown list were Dbase x varieties.

I finally pulled the plug on the 64 but and installed the 32 bit CF version.  
Problem solved.

--Ben

On 3/9/2013 7:06 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans wrote:
   You cannot natively run msaccess on 64bit windows as there is no 64bit jet
 driver,

 Actually you can.
 Look for C:\Windows\SysWOW64\odbcad32.exe
 This is a 32bit ODBC Data source Administrator.
 Use it to define your System DSN first, then in the CF Administrator define 
 your datasource with the Microsoft driver on that ODBC DSN.
 I have CF 9 32bit installed, because of some legacy CFX compiled in 32bit, 
 and it works well.
 It might be slightly different with CF 64bits, then have a look here:
 http://blogs.coldfusion.com/post.cfm/coldfusion-10-64bit-and-msaccess


 

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Re: 32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-10 Thread Russ Michaels

 what you have suggested is a work around using 32bit, not native 64 bit.


As I did mention there are work arounds , but they will not allow a CF DSN
to just be setup in the CFADMIN with no other work, including your
suggestion above, they require extra steps.
I have yet to find a perfect solution that allows CF DSN's for MSACCESS to
work with no other manual steps. If you know otherwise, please do share/

You find more info here.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/adodotnetdataproviders/thread/d5b29496-d6a1-4ecf-b1a4-5550d80b84b6




On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:06 AM,  wrote:


  You cannot natively run msaccess on 64bit windows as there is no 64bit
 jet
 driver,

 Actually you can.
 Look for C:\Windows\SysWOW64\odbcad32.exe
 This is a 32bit ODBC Data source Administrator.
 Use it to define your System DSN first, then in the CF Administrator
 define your datasource with the Microsoft driver on that ODBC DSN.
 I have CF 9 32bit installed, because of some legacy CFX compiled in 32bit,
 and it works well.
 It might be slightly different with CF 64bits, then have a look here:
 http://blogs.coldfusion.com/post.cfm/coldfusion-10-64bit-and-msaccess


 

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32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-09 Thread Ben Conner

Hi,

I'm trying to get an understanding of the 32 vs 64 bit vsns of CF 9 and how 
they 
interact with DSNs.

I've had a server running with a 32 bit vsn of CF (Win 2008) and decided to 
migrate it to a 64 bit test box (Win 2008 R2) with the 64 bit version of CF 9 
on it.

The DSNs pointing to the Access databases all choked.  Ran that to ground and 
found that I needed to install the 32 bit add-on for Access 
(AccessDatabaseEngine.exe) from Microsoft.  The issue I'm having is when I 
define a DSN pointing to Access, CF points to the 64 bit vsn of Access ODBC by 
default, not the 32 bit.  And trying to define it via the JDBC entry (after 
defining the 32 bit ODBC entry in Windows 2008 itself), I am unable to complete 
because Access isn't on the list of available database formats in the dropdown 
box.

Is there a way to use 32 bit versions of Access in a 64 bit environment?  
Should 
I install the 32 bit version of CF 9 instead?

Thanks much!

--Ben

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Re: 32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-09 Thread Money Pit

Don't have an example handy cuz I don't use Access, but what about
using dbtype 'Other' and manually specifying the strings?  the way we
used to have to do when mySQL support was dropped a few years back?

64-bit CF vs. 32-bit is so much more capable I'd do whatever it takes
to NOT go back to 32-bit if I were you.

p.s. notice how I didn't say anything snotty about using Access? :-)


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Re: 32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-09 Thread Ben Conner

Funny you should mention that.  These are production client databases and I am 
not really authorized to 'fix' them, but I'm installing the 64 bit vsn of 
Access 
now and seeing if I can update them to 64 bit after I finish the install.  Just 
as soon make them all SQL 12, but that isn't my call.

--Ben

On 3/9/2013 3:22 PM, Money Pit wrote:
 Don't have an example handy cuz I don't use Access, but what about
 using dbtype 'Other' and manually specifying the strings?  the way we
 used to have to do when mySQL support was dropped a few years back?

 64-bit CF vs. 32-bit is so much more capable I'd do whatever it takes
 to NOT go back to 32-bit if I were you.

 p.s. notice how I didn't say anything snotty about using Access? :-)



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Re: 32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-09 Thread Russ Michaels

You cannot natively run msaccess on 64bit windows as there is no 64bit jet
driver, it is now legacy and Microsoft no longer support it. There is also
no longer any 32bit version of windows since 2008 r2, its all 64bit now.
If you seatch on Google there is a work around to get it to work with the
old 32bit jet driver.
I have not found any way to have this work automatically so you can just
setup the dsn in cfadmin and it works.

Regards
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On Mar 9, 2013 11:25 PM, Ben Conner b...@webworldinc.com wrote:


 Funny you should mention that.  These are production client databases and
 I am
 not really authorized to 'fix' them, but I'm installing the 64 bit vsn of
 Access
 now and seeing if I can update them to 64 bit after I finish the install.
  Just
 as soon make them all SQL 12, but that isn't my call.

 --Ben

 On 3/9/2013 3:22 PM, Money Pit wrote:
  Don't have an example handy cuz I don't use Access, but what about
  using dbtype 'Other' and manually specifying the strings?  the way we
  used to have to do when mySQL support was dropped a few years back?
 
  64-bit CF vs. 32-bit is so much more capable I'd do whatever it takes
  to NOT go back to 32-bit if I were you.
 
  p.s. notice how I didn't say anything snotty about using Access? :-)
 
 

 --
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 Web World, Inc. 888-206-6486 or
 PO Box 1122 480-704-2000
 Queen Creek, AZ 85142



 

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Re: 32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-09 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 You cannot natively run msaccess on 64bit windows as there is no 64bit jet
driver,

Actually you can.
Look for C:\Windows\SysWOW64\odbcad32.exe
This is a 32bit ODBC Data source Administrator.
Use it to define your System DSN first, then in the CF Administrator define 
your datasource with the Microsoft driver on that ODBC DSN.
I have CF 9 32bit installed, because of some legacy CFX compiled in 32bit, and 
it works well.
It might be slightly different with CF 64bits, then have a look here:
http://blogs.coldfusion.com/post.cfm/coldfusion-10-64bit-and-msaccess


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Re: 32 vs 64 bit CF and DSNs

2013-03-09 Thread Steve Durette

Also you may want to do a search on the Microsoft ACE drivers. They came up 
with them for accessing office 2010. I'm almost positive they are 64 bit 
drivers. 

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On Mar 9, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com 
wrote:

 
 You cannot natively run msaccess on 64bit windows as there is no 64bit jet
 driver,
 
 Actually you can.
 Look for C:\Windows\SysWOW64\odbcad32.exe
 This is a 32bit ODBC Data source Administrator.
 Use it to define your System DSN first, then in the CF Administrator define 
 your datasource with the Microsoft driver on that ODBC DSN.
 I have CF 9 32bit installed, because of some legacy CFX compiled in 32bit, 
 and it works well.
 It might be slightly different with CF 64bits, then have a look here:
 http://blogs.coldfusion.com/post.cfm/coldfusion-10-64bit-and-msaccess
 
 
 

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