Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: Is anyone using the JRocket JRE (with Mission Control) on ColdFusion 9.01 (I'm on Win 7 64-bit, standalone) What is in the log file? CF needs a JDK, not a JRE. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337973 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
What is in the log file? CF needs a JDK, not a JRE. JDK?? Are you sure about that?? I'm not sure what it would do with the JDK. I'm basically trying to follow the instructions in this blog post to track memory leaks in the JVM: http://www.ghidinelli.com/2009/07/16/finding-memory-leaks-coldfusion-jvm I tried the Win 64-bit version of Mission Control JRocket for Java 6 but CF won't start when it's pointed to that. So I tried some of the others, same results. It looked like a pretty neat way to track memory leaks, if you can get it working. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
What is in the log file? CF needs a JDK, not a JRE. Oh, and I don't get anything in the log file(s) it doesn't get anywhere close to logging anything. MJS ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337981 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote: Oh, and I don't get anything in the log file(s) it doesn't get anywhere close to logging anything. If you start jrun.exe from the command line you should get something there. Jochem -- Jochem van Dieten http://jochem.vandieten.net/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337982 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
The JDK seems to be required because the stock JRE doesn't come with all the components need to run the services. There's a JRE inside the JDK, which is all you'll really need once you've extracted/installed it. I've found this to be the case with all of the SUN builds as well. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337983 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
JDK?? Are you sure about that?? I'm not sure what it would do with the JDK. Yes, CF requires the JDK because it includes the server-specific version of jvm.dll. I don't remember enough about JRockit to know whether it has the same sort of JVM/JDK division. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337984 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
The JDK seems to be required because the stock JRE doesn't come with all the components need to run the services. There's a JRE inside the JDK, which is all you'll really need once you've extracted/installed it. I've found this to be the case with all of the SUN builds as well. Hhm, okay that makes sense, it does appear the downloads from the Oracle page do include a complete JDK, so I don't think that's the issue I am having. When I start CF from the command line the error just says No known VMs. Check for corrupt jvm.config. I am pointing java.home to the jre directory under the jrocket install, it just doesn't seem to like it. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337986 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
Yes, CF requires the JDK because it includes the server-specific version of jvm.dll. I don't remember enough about JRockit to know whether it has the same sort of JVM/JDK division. Ah okay, thanks for the info. This does appear to be part of the jrocket install that I have. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337987 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
Mary Jo, I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:39 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE The JDK seems to be required because the stock JRE doesn't come with all the components need to run the services. There's a JRE inside the JDK, which is all you'll really need once you've extracted/installed it. I've found this to be the case with all of the SUN builds as well. Hhm, okay that makes sense, it does appear the downloads from the Oracle page do include a complete JDK, so I don't think that's the issue I am having. When I start CF from the command line the error just says No known VMs. Check for corrupt jvm.config. I am pointing java.home to the jre directory under the jrocket install, it just doesn't seem to like it. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337995 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) I'm not really seeing much in the way of choices to point to, but I did try both the top level directory as well as the JRE one (which is what seems to match what the CF runtime has). And yes, I do have the slashes going the right way (front slashes, but I did try backslashes too just on the off chance that was what it wanted). I'm thinking there's either something in the default JVM args that it doesn't like... or there is some other library that is missing or it doesn't like. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338004 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing something --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338006 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing something --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338007 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
The error you gave said something about missing java.config right? Then try attrib /s java.config from C:\ It will tell you every place that file exists on the C drive (change drives as appropriate) Steve -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing something --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338008 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
Opps that was missing or corrupt jvm.config so attrib /s jvm.config -Original Message- From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:29 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE The error you gave said something about missing java.config right? Then try attrib /s java.config from C:\ It will tell you every place that file exists on the C drive (change drives as appropriate) Steve -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:18 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing something --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338009 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Mary Jo Sminkey mary...@cfwebstore.com wrote: I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing something That depends on whether you are running the 32-bit or 64-bit CF9. You can install either 64-bit or 32-bit jvms on Win7 64-bit but you need to be matching up the jvm with CF. And 64-bit CF9 is only available with Enterprise. CF9 Standard is 32-bit only. At this point, I don't need more than 3 GB of RAM for CF, so I just run 32-bit CF and a 32-bit JVM on a 64-bit Windows 2008 server. cheers, Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338011 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
And 64-bit CF9 is only available with Enterprise. CF9 Standard is 32-bit only. I believe that was true in CF8 but my understanding is that all editions of CF9 are now available in 64-bit. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338021 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I believe that was true in CF8 but my understanding is that all editions of CF9 are now available in 64-bit. That is correct. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338022 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
That's correct, I was mistaken. I ran into it with CF8 and didn't notice that it had changed for 9. Dave corrected me in another thread. My apologies for the inaccurate info. Cheers, Judah On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Justin Scott jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote: And 64-bit CF9 is only available with Enterprise. CF9 Standard is 32-bit only. I believe that was true in CF8 but my understanding is that all editions of CF9 are now available in 64-bit. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338023 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
Mary Jo, I don't want to be contrary - but your error almost has to be related to not finding the jvm.dll right? If it were args wouldn't it be some other sort of error? Something more related to GC or whatever that would show up in the out log? What about... are you showing extensions in your folder options? Once and a while I save a file accidentally on a new server as something.config.txt - but it still looks right because the txt is hidden from me. Notepad will bite you sometimes that way. That's why one of the first things to do on a new install is to go to folder options and show everything - extensions, paths, system files... everything. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:16 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :) I'm not really seeing much in the way of choices to point to, but I did try both the top level directory as well as the JRE one (which is what seems to match what the CF runtime has). And yes, I do have the slashes going the right way (front slashes, but I did try backslashes too just on the off chance that was what it wanted). I'm thinking there's either something in the default JVM args that it doesn't like... or there is some other library that is missing or it doesn't like. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338024 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
I don't want to be contrary - but your error almost has to be related to not finding the jvm.dll right? If it were args wouldn't it be some other sort of error? Something more related to GC or whatever that would show up in the out log? Well, I'm just guessing, I really don't know enough about messing with the JVM to know, so you are probably right. Just kind of running out of ideas... What about... are you showing extensions in your folder options? That's why one of the first things to do on a new install is to go to folder options and show everything - extensions, paths, system files... everything. Yup, agreed, it's just about the first thing I do on a new computer. So nothing in that respect to help me. ;-) I'm off now for the weekend, so will probably just throw in the towel on it for the time being. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338028 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
That depends on whether you are running the 32-bit or 64-bit CF9. Oops, sorry yes I am indeed using the 64-bit CF9. --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338029 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE
Is anyone using the JRocket JRE (with Mission Control) on ColdFusion 9.01 (I'm on Win 7 64-bit, standalone)? I'm having trouble getting ColdFusion to start up when I point it to the JRocket JRE and not sure what the problem is. I'm leaving out the mission control config in the args just to make sure I just get it working with the JRE but not having much luck. I tried a few different versions, but still can't get the CF server to start with any of them. Any ideas? --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337940 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm