Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote:
 Is anyone using the JRocket JRE (with Mission Control) on ColdFusion 9.01 
 (I'm on Win 7 64-bit, standalone)

What is in the log file? CF needs a JDK, not a JRE.

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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

 What is in the log file? CF needs a JDK, not a JRE.

JDK?? Are you sure about that?? I'm not sure what it would do with the JDK. 

I'm basically trying to follow the instructions in this blog post to track 
memory leaks in the JVM:

http://www.ghidinelli.com/2009/07/16/finding-memory-leaks-coldfusion-jvm

I tried the Win 64-bit version of Mission Control JRocket for Java 6 but CF 
won't start when it's pointed to that. So I tried some of the others, same 
results. 

It looked like a pretty neat way to track memory leaks, if you can get it 
working. 


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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

 What is in the log file? CF needs a JDK, not a JRE.

Oh, and I don't get anything in the log file(s) it doesn't get anywhere close 
to logging anything. 


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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey wrote:
 Oh, and I don't get anything in the log file(s) it doesn't get anywhere close 
 to logging anything.

If you start jrun.exe from the command line you should get something there.

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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Matthew Williams

  The JDK seems to be required because the stock JRE doesn't come with 
all the components need to run the services.  There's a JRE inside the 
JDK, which is all you'll really need once you've extracted/installed 
it.  I've found this to be the case with all of the SUN builds as well.


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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Dave Watts

 JDK?? Are you sure about that?? I'm not sure what it would do with the JDK.

Yes, CF requires the JDK because it includes the server-specific
version of jvm.dll. I don't remember enough about JRockit to know
whether it has the same sort of JVM/JDK division.

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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

The JDK seems to be required because the stock JRE doesn't come with 
all the components need to run the services.  There's a JRE inside the 
JDK, which is all you'll really need once you've extracted/installed 
it.  I've found this to be the case with all of the SUN builds as well.

Hhm, okay that makes sense, it does appear the downloads from the Oracle page 
do include a complete JDK, so I don't think that's the issue I am having. 

When I start CF from the command line the error just says No known VMs. Check 
for corrupt jvm.config. I am pointing java.home to the jre directory under the 
jrocket install, it just doesn't seem to like it. 


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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

Yes, CF requires the JDK because it includes the server-specific
version of jvm.dll. I don't remember enough about JRockit to know
whether it has the same sort of JVM/JDK division.

Ah okay, thanks for the info. This does appear to be part of the jrocket 
install that I have. 


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RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Mary Jo,

I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right
one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :)

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From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE


The JDK seems to be required because the stock JRE doesn't come with 
all the components need to run the services.  There's a JRE inside the 
JDK, which is all you'll really need once you've extracted/installed 
it.  I've found this to be the case with all of the SUN builds as well.

Hhm, okay that makes sense, it does appear the downloads from the Oracle
page do include a complete JDK, so I don't think that's the issue I am
having. 

When I start CF from the command line the error just says No known VMs.
Check for corrupt jvm.config. I am pointing java.home to the jre directory
under the jrocket install, it just doesn't seem to like it. 


--- Mary Jo

 





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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right
one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :)

I'm not really seeing much in the way of choices to point to, but I did try 
both the top level directory as well as the JRE one (which is what seems to 
match what the CF runtime has). And yes, I do have the slashes going the right 
way (front slashes, but I did try backslashes too just on the off chance that 
was what it wanted). 

I'm thinking there's either something in the default JVM args that it doesn't 
like... or there is some other library that is missing or it doesn't like. 


--- Mary Jo


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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right
one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :)


Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* 
use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing 
something


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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right
one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :)


Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* 
use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm missing 
something


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RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)

The error you gave said something about missing java.config right?

Then try attrib /s java.config from C:\  It will tell you every place
that file exists on the C drive (change drives as appropriate)

Steve


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From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:18 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE


I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the
right
one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :)


Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I
*would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in
case I'm missing something


--- Mary Jo





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RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)

Opps that was missing or corrupt jvm.config so attrib /s jvm.config

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Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:29 PM
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Subject: RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE


The error you gave said something about missing java.config right?

Then try attrib /s java.config from C:\  It will tell you every place
that file exists on the C drive (change drives as appropriate)

Steve


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From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:18 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE


I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the
right
one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :)


Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I
*would* use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in
case I'm missing something


--- Mary Jo







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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Mary Jo Sminkey mary...@cfwebstore.com wrote:

I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the right
one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :)


 Just to verify I have the right install, for CF9 on a Win 7 64-bit, I *would* 
 use the 64-bit for Java 6, right? Seemed obvious, but just in case I'm 
 missing something


That depends on whether you are running the 32-bit or 64-bit CF9. You
can install either 64-bit or 32-bit jvms on Win7 64-bit but you need
to be matching up the jvm with CF. And 64-bit CF9 is only available
with Enterprise. CF9 Standard is 32-bit only. At this point, I don't
need more than 3 GB of RAM for CF, so I just run 32-bit CF and a
32-bit JVM on a 64-bit Windows 2008 server.

cheers,
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RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Justin Scott

 And 64-bit CF9 is only available with Enterprise.
 CF9 Standard is 32-bit only.

I believe that was true in CF8 but my understanding is that all editions of
CF9 are now available in 64-bit.


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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Dave Watts

 I believe that was true in CF8 but my understanding is that all editions of
 CF9 are now available in 64-bit.

That is correct.

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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley

That's correct, I was mistaken. I ran into it with CF8 and didn't
notice that it had changed for 9. Dave corrected me in another thread.
My apologies for the inaccurate info.

Cheers,
Judah

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Justin Scott
jscott-li...@gravityfree.com wrote:

 And 64-bit CF9 is only available with Enterprise.
 CF9 Standard is 32-bit only.

 I believe that was true in CF8 but my understanding is that all editions of
 CF9 are now available in 64-bit.


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RE: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mark A. Kruger

Mary Jo,

I don't want to be contrary - but your error almost has to be related to not
finding the jvm.dll right? If it were args wouldn't it be some other sort of
error? Something more related to GC or whatever that would show up in the
out log?

What about... are you showing extensions in your folder options? Once and a
while I save a file accidentally on a new server as something.config.txt -
but it still looks right because the txt is hidden from me. Notepad will
bite you sometimes that way. 

That's why one of the first things to do on a new install is to go to folder
options and show everything - extensions, paths, system files... everything.


-Mark

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From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:16 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE


I usually have to try a couple different directories before I find the
right
one... and make sure your slashes are pointed the right direction :)

I'm not really seeing much in the way of choices to point to, but I did try
both the top level directory as well as the JRE one (which is what seems to
match what the CF runtime has). And yes, I do have the slashes going the
right way (front slashes, but I did try backslashes too just on the off
chance that was what it wanted). 

I'm thinking there's either something in the default JVM args that it
doesn't like... or there is some other library that is missing or it doesn't
like. 


--- Mary Jo




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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

I don't want to be contrary - but your error almost has to be related to not
finding the jvm.dll right? If it were args wouldn't it be some other sort of
error? Something more related to GC or whatever that would show up in the
out log?

Well, I'm just guessing, I really don't know enough about messing with the JVM 
to know, so you are probably right. Just kind of running out of ideas...


What about... are you showing extensions in your folder options? 

That's why one of the first things to do on a new install is to go to folder
options and show everything - extensions, paths, system files... everything.

Yup, agreed, it's just about the first thing I do on a new computer. So nothing 
in that respect to help me. ;-) 

I'm off now for the weekend, so will probably just throw in the towel on it for 
the time being. 


--- Mary Jo


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Re: CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-08 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

 That depends on whether you are running the 32-bit or 64-bit CF9.

Oops, sorry yes I am indeed using the 64-bit CF9. 


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CF 9.01 with JRocket JRE

2010-10-07 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey

Is anyone using the JRocket JRE (with Mission Control) on ColdFusion 9.01 (I'm 
on Win 7 64-bit, standalone)? I'm having trouble getting ColdFusion to start up 
when I point it to the JRocket JRE and not sure what the problem is. I'm 
leaving out the mission control config in the args just to make sure I just get 
it working with the JRE but not having much luck. I tried a few different 
versions, but still can't get the CF server to start with any of them. 

Any ideas?

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