Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-17 Thread Mike Chabot
I agree with Adrian. I used the hidden form field technique, along
with screening out http://; in certain form fields, and it has
eliminated 100% of the form submission spam without impacting
legitimate users.

-Mike Chabot

On 4/16/07, Adrian Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Besides the accessibilty issues with CAPTCHAs, I also find it a burden
 put on your user that is not necessary. It's not their fault that
 spammers abuse your form. They shouldn't be punished for it. There are
 other solutions - simply dynamically named hidden fields already
 eliminated 99% of spam on my site.
 If you don't have issues with JS, then the following is a good
 solution:

 http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/

 Eliminated 100% of form spam in all the sites I've implemented it. And
 that's only with 4 of 5 security levels activated.

 a.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/04/2007 8:47 pm 

 I have a feedback form on our website, and we're getting a lot of SPAM.
  I don't know if it's because we're using mailto in the cf code or
 because we're not using some sort of image verification on the form (I'm
 sure it's a combination of the two).  Does anyone know of a good CF
 based form validation/image verification code to help make our feedback
 section more secure?



 

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CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Steven Sprouse
I have a feedback form on our website, and we're getting a lot of SPAM.  I 
don't know if it's because we're using mailto in the cf code or because we're 
not using some sort of image verification on the form (I'm sure it's a 
combination of the two).  Does anyone know of a good CF based form 
validation/image verification code to help make our feedback section more 
secure? 

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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 16 Apr 2007, Steven Sprouse wrote:
 I have a feedback form on our website, and we're getting a lot of SPAM. 

Where to, and where from ?
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RE: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Hi Steve,

I use Lyla captcha and it seems easy enough to implement, I know allot of
people are also fond of cfformprotect which is a non captcha solution I'm
yet to try out. See this link: http://lyla.maestropublishing.com/ 

As for the mailto links, I'm sure they are the root cause of the issue, You
may want to try and disguise them from bots trawling the net, give this a
go.

script language=javascript
var ppclink = Email The Sales Team; 
var ppcname = info; 
var ppchost = thinkbluemedia.co.uk; 

document.write(a href= + mail + to: + ppcname + #64; +
ppchost +  title='Please get in touch' + ppclink + /a)
/script

Outlook seems to be screwing my text wrap, but I'm sure you'll be able to
see the variables to change. Ppcname is the bit before the @ sign, and the
ppchost goes after it. It'll then display to the user nicely, but a bot is
less likely o pick it up.

Hope that helps,

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Steven Sprouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2007 13:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

I have a feedback form on our website, and we're getting a lot of SPAM.  I
don't know if it's because we're using mailto in the cf code or because
we're not using some sort of image verification on the form (I'm sure it's a
combination of the two).  Does anyone know of a good CF based form
validation/image verification code to help make our feedback section more
secure? 



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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Steven Sprouse
The feedback form can be found here: 
http://www2.ccboe.com/feedback/feedbackform.cfm

I think I've tried the lyla capcha in the past and couldn't figure it out.  
Maybe I'll give it another go.

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RE: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Steve LaBadie
I use Alagad Captcha. Simple to set up

http://www.alagad.com/


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-Original Message-
From: Steven Sprouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

I have a feedback form on our website, and we're getting a lot of SPAM.
I don't know if it's because we're using mailto in the cf code or
because we're not using some sort of image verification on the form (I'm
sure it's a combination of the two).  Does anyone know of a good CF
based form validation/image verification code to help make our feedback
section more secure? 



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RE: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Hi Steve,

Firstly, here is a great tutorial on lyla from Ray
http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/11/14/Quick-and-dirty-CAPTCHA-Gui
de I found it a great help when I started out with it.

Next thing I notice about that contact form, is that you're only using JS
client side stuff to validate its contents, so I just disabled JS in my
browser and fired off about 10 blank emails though the form, imagine what a
mailing bot could do with it in just a few seconds.

Get some server side validation on the form for starters, and get a captcha
or something on it, build your mail to links using the JS solution I
provided, that should start to stem the flow a little I think.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Steven Sprouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2007 14:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

The feedback form can be found here:
http://www2.ccboe.com/feedback/feedbackform.cfm

I think I've tried the lyla capcha in the past and couldn't figure it out.
Maybe I'll give it another go.



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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Steven Sprouse
Rob,

With the JS you sent, can I create a name for that whole thing and then make 
reference to the name in the form?  I ask because my mailto: tag is currently 
just a hidden input type in the form with a value of the email address it's 
supposed to go to.  How do I reference the new JS?

Hi Steve,

Firstly, here is a great tutorial on lyla from Ray
http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/11/14/Quick-and-dirty-CAPTCHA-Gui
de I found it a great help when I started out with it.

Next thing I notice about that contact form, is that you're only using JS
client side stuff to validate its contents, so I just disabled JS in my
browser and fired off about 10 blank emails though the form, imagine what a
mailing bot could do with it in just a few seconds.

Get some server side validation on the form for starters, and get a captcha
or something on it, build your mail to links using the JS solution I
provided, that should start to stem the flow a little I think.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Steven Sprouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2007 14:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

The feedback form can be found here:
http://www2.ccboe.com/feedback/feedbackform.cfm

I think I've tried the lyla capcha in the past and couldn't figure it out.
Maybe I'll give it another go.

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RE: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Hi Steve,

Ok, I hadn't noticed the email address as a hidden field, this is a pretty
bad idea as the bots will trawl if from the source and have a field day. How
are you processing that form once its submitted? Using a cfmail tag? If so
then I would take the hidden field out all together and just grab that email
address in the server side code, so it never gets sent to the browser.

The JS I send you is for create a hyperlink that says 'mail me' or something
like that, with a mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] as the link, when the user
clicks it they get taken to their mail client such as outlook or something.

You defiantly need to get rid of that form field though, it's bad news.

Let me know if you need any more help.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Steven Sprouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2007 14:34
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

Rob,

With the JS you sent, can I create a name for that whole thing and then make
reference to the name in the form?  I ask because my mailto: tag is
currently just a hidden input type in the form with a value of the email
address it's supposed to go to.  How do I reference the new JS?

Hi Steve,

Firstly, here is a great tutorial on lyla from Ray
http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/11/14/Quick-and-dirty-CAPTCHA-Gu
i
de I found it a great help when I started out with it.

Next thing I notice about that contact form, is that you're only using JS
client side stuff to validate its contents, so I just disabled JS in my
browser and fired off about 10 blank emails though the form, imagine what a
mailing bot could do with it in just a few seconds.

Get some server side validation on the form for starters, and get a captcha
or something on it, build your mail to links using the JS solution I
provided, that should start to stem the flow a little I think.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Steven Sprouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2007 14:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

The feedback form can be found here:
http://www2.ccboe.com/feedback/feedbackform.cfm

I think I've tried the lyla capcha in the past and couldn't figure it out.
Maybe I'll give it another go.



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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 16 Apr 2007, Steven Sprouse wrote:
 my mailto: tag is
 currently just a hidden input type in the form with a value of the email
 address it's supposed to go to.  

Eeek !
So if I change it to anything else, I can send my spam through your mail 
server ?

Hard code things like this in the backend.

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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Rick Root
ImageCFC has captcha capability that is fairly flexible.

The demo I've published is an example of making it rather difficult
with a complex font and complex background.

Half the time I can't even get it right!

http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/captcha/

Of course, for my usual implementation, such as the one built into
CFMBB, I make it a bit simpler..

http://www.cfmbb.org/login.cfm?ref=%2Findex%2Ecfm%3F

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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Les Mizzell
Though I'm using captcha solutions for most of my main clients (and 
server side too, thank you), I've been toying around with ideas on a 
smaller site or two owned by myself just to see what would happen.

A very simple Does a cow moo, bark, howl, mew or whistle? 
question with a blank to write in the correct answer with a simple cfif 
after submission to check for the correct response has, for over a 
month, stopped 100% of the form spams I was getting. I have an email 
alert sent to myself just so I can see what's hitting the form, and it's 
10 to 20 bots a day...

For a second test, I've placed a fake form in front of the real one 
and hidden it with CSS. The form bots fill this one out, and never get 
to the real form on the page. It's been 100% effective as well against 
10 to 20 bots a day...


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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Steven Sprouse
Well not exactly.  It's not as bad as it sounds.  My original feedback form was 
generated from a cf include file on my server.  You'd have to change that code 
to change the email address

 On Monday 16 Apr 2007, Steven Sprouse wrote:
  my mailto: tag is
  currently just a hidden input type in the form with a value of the 
 email
  address it's supposed to go to.  
 
 Eeek !
 So if I change it to anything else, I can send my spam through your 
 mail 
 server ?
 
 Hard code things like this in the backend.
 
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RE: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
No you wouldn't bud,

You can just save the HTML template and edit it in notepad :-D

Rob

-Original Message-
From: Steven Sprouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2007 16:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

Well not exactly.  It's not as bad as it sounds.  My original feedback form
was generated from a cf include file on my server.  You'd have to change
that code to change the email address

 On Monday 16 Apr 2007, Steven Sprouse wrote:
  my mailto: tag is
  currently just a hidden input type in the form with a value of the 
 email
  address it's supposed to go to.  
 
 Eeek !
 So if I change it to anything else, I can send my spam through your 
 mail 
 server ?
 
 Hard code things like this in the backend.
 
 -- 
 Tom Chiverton
 Helping to dynamically evolve proactive patterns
 on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com
 
 
 
 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.
 
 Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in 
 England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered 
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 Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a 
 member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society.
 
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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Steven Sprouse
Okay, I've made changes to the form, 
http://www2.ccboe.com/feedback/feedbackform.cfm

The CAPTCHA is there and looking nice, but I can still submit the form without 
having to enter anything in the image field.  Any help with this?  Does the 
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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Peter Donahue
Hello Less and listers,

I applaud your approach with this captia solution. As one who uses a screen
reader to access applications and Web sites these captias are a real problem
for those who must use this technology to gain access to secured areas of a
Web site. The traditional, Copy the letters/numbers you see in to the field
below captia effectively locks blind people out of areas of Web sites and
computer applications where this type of captia is used. Having a captia
that displays a text string that can be read by screen readers that asks a
question and provides one with an edit field to write their answer would
allow you to secure your forms and still make it possible for blind persons
using screen reading software to gain full access to protected areas of your
Web site. Since traditional captia information is presented as an OCR image
these cannot be read by screen readers, but text strings can.

If you're able to create a CF Captia I'd love to see the code myself and
would consider using it on my Web sites as well. I'll be following this
thread with interest.

Peter Donahue

- Original Message - 
From: Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!


Though I'm using captcha solutions for most of my main clients (and
server side too, thank you), I've been toying around with ideas on a
smaller site or two owned by myself just to see what would happen.

A very simple Does a cow moo, bark, howl, mew or whistle?
question with a blank to write in the correct answer with a simple cfif
after submission to check for the correct response has, for over a
month, stopped 100% of the form spams I was getting. I have an email
alert sent to myself just so I can see what's hitting the form, and it's
10 to 20 bots a day...

For a second test, I've placed a fake form in front of the real one
and hidden it with CSS. The form bots fill this one out, and never get
to the real form on the page. It's been 100% effective as well against
10 to 20 bots a day...




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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Steven Sprouse
 Okay, I've made changes to the form, http://www2.ccboe.
 com/feedback/feedbackform.cfm
 
 The CAPTCHA is there and looking nice, but I can still submit the form 
 without having to enter anything in the image field.  Any help with 
 this?  Does the mailto look 

UPDATE - I was able to get it to work.  To the people with more experience in 
this than me, does it look like, code wise, that I've improved the 
functionality and reduced the amount of SPAM that might get through?

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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Peter Donahue
Good afternoon again everyone,

If you can set it up to where it produces a string of straight text, and
not text embedded within an image your captcha text/questions will then be
readable by screen reading solutions. Some companies have implemented audio
rendering of this text, but the audio is often a poor quality, and the site
is inaccessible to those who are both blind and deaf or have severe hearing
impairments. Doing this will also go a long way to ensuring that your Web
sites are Section 508 Compliant.

Peter Donahue


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To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!


The feedback form can be found here:
http://www2.ccboe.com/feedback/feedbackform.cfm

I think I've tried the lyla capcha in the past and couldn't figure it out.
Maybe I'll give it another go.



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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Peter Donahue
Hello Steven and listers,

It certainly worked for me. The results appears below:

Please correct these errors:
You did not match the image text. Please try again.

Wanting to give you the benefit of a doubt I gave it a shot. Because my
screen reader could not read the text in the image I received the error
message above and was unable to submit the form. This is exactly the kind of
accessibility problem we have with captchas and screen readers. If one could
read the text without it being included in an image the problem could be
solved.

Peter Donahue
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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!


Okay, I've made changes to the form,
http://www2.ccboe.com/feedback/feedbackform.cfm

The CAPTCHA is there and looking nice, but I can still submit the form
without having to enter anything in the image field.  Any help with this?
Does the mailto look



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RE: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
100% CF... no third party image components needed.
http://acoderslife.com/downloads/bhcaptcha


-Original Message-
From: Steven Sprouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

I have a feedback form on our website, and we're getting a lot of SPAM.  I
don't know if it's because we're using mailto in the cf code or because
we're not using some sort of image verification on the form (I'm sure it's a
combination of the two).  Does anyone know of a good CF based form
validation/image verification code to help make our feedback section more
secure? 



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Re: CF CAPTCHA - need help!

2007-04-16 Thread Adrian Wagner
Besides the accessibilty issues with CAPTCHAs, I also find it a burden
put on your user that is not necessary. It's not their fault that
spammers abuse your form. They shouldn't be punished for it. There are
other solutions - simply dynamically named hidden fields already
eliminated 99% of spam on my site. 
If you don't have issues with JS, then the following is a good
solution:
 
http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/
 
Eliminated 100% of form spam in all the sites I've implemented it. And
that's only with 4 of 5 security levels activated.
 
a.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/04/2007 8:47 pm 

I have a feedback form on our website, and we're getting a lot of SPAM.
 I don't know if it's because we're using mailto in the cf code or
because we're not using some sort of image verification on the form (I'm
sure it's a combination of the two).  Does anyone know of a good CF
based form validation/image verification code to help make our feedback
section more secure? 



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