CF and .NET (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Billy Cravens

That is possible.  Of course, this is one of those what is .NET questions.
Even Microsoft can't give you can answer that isn't confusing.  .NET really
is many things, though many (including myself) tend to use .NET as a noun
to describe something discreet.  To me, .NET means the CLR, though there's
obviously some flaw in that logic.  A true .NET service will simply be a
SOAP method/property, which you can actually use now (and other proprietary
services like Passport have COM interfaces).  Though I wouldn't mind seeing
a tag like this:

cfdotnet type=method class=system.something.something
input=#myCFvariable#
output=dotNetResult
cfoutput#dotNetResult#/cfoutput

Hmm.. that got me thinking ... is the CLR available to CFX tags if the
framework is installed on the server?  Any hard-core CFX developers looked
into this?

- Original Message -
From: Benjamin S. Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:14 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 If I recall, ColdFusion support for .Net did not include running on the
 CLR but support for things like .Net services. Perhaps
 interoperability would be a more accurate word to describe
 Macromedia's proposed support for .Net.

 Benjamin S. Rogers
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 f.508.240.0057

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:50 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


 MM could support .NET with a CFML language module that conforms to MS
 CLS - and make it commercially avaialable - right?

 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Macromedia.com


 This definitely needs to be updated for a comparison with .NET
 (particularly ASP.NET).  I think the comparisons that are out there
 compare CF 4.0 to ASP 2, which is horribly out of date (should compare
 CF 5.0 to ASP 3 and
 ASP.NET)  Of course, I know this may go against the current bandwagon of
 saying we will support .NET that everyone and their dog seems to do
 nowadays - I think .NET is a solid platform, but I want to see true
 alternatives (On a side note - I've heard that MM will support .NET -
 how on earth can you be a true J2EE engine but still have support for
 the .NET
 CLR?)

 - Original Message -
 From: Earl, George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 7:39 AM
 Subject: RE: Macromedia.com


  Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I never saw it hit the list . . .
 
  Jeremy,
 
  I'd like to see a really nice section at the re-built site that
  answers
 the
  CF vs. ASP and who's using CF type questions that we all get asked so
 often.
 
  When I get these kinds of questions, or when someone asks me to
  explain
 why
  I think we should go with CF instead of a competing product, I'd like
  to
 be
  able to go right to Macromedia and pull up a few pages with all the
  ammunition I need to support my recommendation. It should be front and

  center off the main page where I can't miss it. It should be built
  using
 the
  very tools I am recommending and it should showcase what can be done
  with those tools.
 
  In addition to the other stuff, I'd also like to see included in these
 pages
  a list of sites, companies and organizations that are using CF, with
  particular emphasis on large organizations (it's interesting how much
  credibility CF gains when people hear who's already using it).
 
  I know some of this stuff is already there, or at least it was at the
  Allaire site, but it isn't the easiest thing to find and it is
  scattered around. I think pulling it together in one place, making it
  very visible, and keeping it up to date would pay big dividends.
 
  George
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jeremy Allaire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 16:08
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Macromedia.com
  
  
   Hi-
  
   ... snipped ...
  
   We're also taking the coming months to re-build the site from
   scratch on our next releases of ColdFusion, Flash and Dreamweaver.
  
   We'd love your feedback on features for the site.
  
   Thanks,
  
 
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RE: CF and .NET (was Re: Macromedia.com)

2002-01-30 Thread Zac Belado

 A true .NET service will simply be a
 SOAP method/property, which you can actually use now (and other
 proprietary
 services like Passport have COM interfaces).

My understanding from Devcon was that the .NET integration was, at this
point, limited to accessing .NET web services.
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