Back to an older question about CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Bruce Sorge
OK, so it seems that this application is going to be internal, which means
that everyone accessing it will be logged in. So, how in CF do I get who is
logged onto the computer? I tried CGI.AUTH_USER but it does not work. We use
Windows XP and IE.

Bruce


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RE: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Peterson, Chris
You cannot get the locally logged in user (this of the security risk
this would allow!!) but I have been using some code to allow your web
app to integrate to either a) windows NT / AD domain, or b) iSeries
AS400.  If you would be interested in either you can contact me off
list.

Chris Peterson 

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

OK, so it seems that this application is going to be internal, which
means
that everyone accessing it will be logged in. So, how in CF do I get who
is
logged onto the computer? I tried CGI.AUTH_USER but it does not work. We
use
Windows XP and IE.

Bruce




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CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Bruce Sorge
OK,
I figured out how to get the local user name by changing some settings in
IIS. Now though is the issue. CGI.AUTH_USER is returning my windows user
name. What I need to figure out is how do I get my Novell username? We log
into the network using Novell's login page and then we log into the windows
account with a generic ID/password. Surely there has to be a way for me to
get my network ID and not the local windows ID.


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RE: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Ian Skinner
You cannot get the locally logged in user.

You can if you have Windows Integrated Security enabled and Anonymous 
disabled in IIS and the user uses IE for their browser.  Then cgi.auth_user 
will be populated with the domain\username of the login on the client machine 
on a windows domain.

Other then that, I have no experience or knowledge. 

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RE: CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
 I figured out how to get the local user name by changing some 
 settings in IIS. Now though is the issue. CGI.AUTH_USER is 
 returning my windows user name. What I need to figure out is 
 how do I get my Novell username? We log into the network 
 using Novell's login page and then we log into the windows 
 account with a generic ID/password. Surely there has to be a 
 way for me to get my network ID and not the local windows ID.

The browser is not going to pass your Novell authentication information to
your web server. If you want this kind of functionality, you'll need to use
a single-signon product like Siteminder, I think. Novell may have some
product which lets you pass Novell authentication credentials to web
servers, as well. A quick Google search turned up this:

http://www.novell.com/products/ichain/features.html

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Re: CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Bruce Sorge
I am thinking of using an activeX control. I did a search and it looks good.

On 12/12/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I figured out how to get the local user name by changing some
  settings in IIS. Now though is the issue. CGI.AUTH_USER is
  returning my windows user name. What I need to figure out is
  how do I get my Novell username? We log into the network
  using Novell's login page and then we log into the windows
  account with a generic ID/password. Surely there has to be a
  way for me to get my network ID and not the local windows ID.

 The browser is not going to pass your Novell authentication information to
 your web server. If you want this kind of functionality, you'll need to
 use
 a single-signon product like Siteminder, I think. Novell may have some
 product which lets you pass Novell authentication credentials to web
 servers, as well. A quick Google search turned up this:

 http://www.novell.com/products/ichain/features.html

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RE: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
 You can if you have Windows Integrated Security enabled and 
 Anonymous disabled in IIS and the user uses IE for their 
 browser.  Then cgi.auth_user will be populated with the 
 domain\username of the login on the client machine on a 
 windows domain.

I'm pretty sure that, by default, this also requires that your server be
defined within the appropriate security zone in IE, which limits its
usefulness without reconfiguration (manual, or through Group
Policy/IEAK/etc).

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Re: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Bruce Sorge
Interestingly enough I did some checking and discovered that IE has an
activeX control already registered and installed. I just have to call it
now. I am guessing CFOBJECT is the way to go?

On 12/12/06, Peterson, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You cannot get the locally logged in user (this of the security risk
 this would allow!!) but I have been using some code to allow your web
 app to integrate to either a) windows NT / AD domain, or b) iSeries
 AS400.  If you would be interested in either you can contact me off
 list.

 Chris Peterson

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

 OK, so it seems that this application is going to be internal, which
 means
 that everyone accessing it will be logged in. So, how in CF do I get who
 is
 logged onto the computer? I tried CGI.AUTH_USER but it does not work. We
 use
 Windows XP and IE.

 Bruce




 

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RE: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
 Interestingly enough I did some checking and discovered that 
 IE has an activeX control already registered and installed. I 
 just have to call it now. I am guessing CFOBJECT is the way to go?

CFOBJECT will not allow you to access client-side ActiveX/COM functionality;
only server-side.

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Re: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Bruce Sorge
OK, so how do I access client-side ActiveX/COM?

On 12/12/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Interestingly enough I did some checking and discovered that
  IE has an activeX control already registered and installed. I
  just have to call it now. I am guessing CFOBJECT is the way to go?

 CFOBJECT will not allow you to access client-side ActiveX/COM
 functionality;
 only server-side.

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RE: Back to an older question about CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Dave Watts
 OK, so how do I access client-side ActiveX/COM?

From CF, you don't. However, you may be able to script client-side objects
using JavaScript. You should find out more about the specific object in
question; there should be documentation on how to use it.

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Re: CF and Novell

2006-12-12 Thread Antony Sideropoulos
Hi Bruce

Which activeX have you got a hold of?

I have used one referred to as NWDir1 in the past, using the following
syntax:

   cfoutput
object classid=CLSID:4F021AE3-9E98-11D0-A808-00C04FDCD94Aid=NWDir1
width=32 height=32/object
script language=VBScript
Dim vbuser
Sub Window_OnLoad()
 On Error Resume next
 vbuser = NWDir1.LoginName
 vbuser = StrReverse(vbuser)
 initInd = InStr(vbuser, Chr(92))
 if initInd  0 Then
  vbuser = Left(vbuser, initInd-1)
  vbuser = StrReverse(vbuser)
 End if
 // REDIRECTION beware
 document.location.href = index.cfm?docookietest= + vbuser
 Exit sub
End Sub
/script
cfabort
   /cfoutput

This uses vbscript to control the activex client, which provides the novell
logged in user.  This value (vbuser) is then passed back to
whatever.cfmwhere it can be processed.

This technique is obviously susceptible to url hacking, but I'm not aware of
that happening in the 4+ years we used this technique.

By the way, the iChain product that Dave suggested won't really help in this
area; and it's probably overkill.

I'm sure I found this on the Novell site originally - try a search for
NWDir1 or the classid on that site.

Then all you'll need to do is distribute and register the ocx to all the
client PCs!

HTH

Antony

On 12/13/06, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am thinking of using an activeX control. I did a search and it looks
 good.

 On 12/12/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I figured out how to get the local user name by changing some
   settings in IIS. Now though is the issue. CGI.AUTH_USER is
   returning my windows user name. What I need to figure out is
   how do I get my Novell username? We log into the network
   using Novell's login page and then we log into the windows
   account with a generic ID/password. Surely there has to be a
   way for me to get my network ID and not the local windows ID.
 
  The browser is not going to pass your Novell authentication information
 to
  your web server. If you want this kind of functionality, you'll need to
  use
  a single-signon product like Siteminder, I think. Novell may have some
  product which lets you pass Novell authentication credentials to web
  servers, as well. A quick Google search turned up this:
 
  http://www.novell.com/products/ichain/features.html
 
  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  http://www.figleaf.com/
 
  Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
  instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
  Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
  Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
 
 

 

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RE: CF and Novell?

2005-08-12 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
Thanks for the information.  I'm not sure on the details of what they
want to do, but I informed them to try out the cfldap stuff.

Kevin.



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From: Antony Sideropoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF and Novell?

What are you trying to achieve?
 Novell Directory Services (NDS) has an LDAP interface if you need one -

like Active Directory. You can use an anonymous bind to query the
directory, 
or I believe you can use credentials supplied by the user to confirm 
username and password. (I've used the first approach, but not the second

myself.)
 If you want a single sign on solution, there is a Novell activeX
control 
that supplies the authenticated Novell user that you can run on the
client 
PC, and you can use some VBScript to interrogate it and pass a value
back to 
the webserver.
 Or, you can look at a product from Novell called i-Chain, and let it
handle 
all your authentication requirements.
 I've done both of these things (activeX and i-Chain) if you have any 
questions about them.
 Antony

 On 8/12/05, Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Does anyone know of anything out there that will allow CF to talk with
 Novell? They want to avoid creating new logins for a web system. I
 personally have no idea about anything with Novell, but someone asked
me
 about it. They were going to try to write a c++ cfx tag to achieve
 this, but I though I would find out if anyone else has better ideas.
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 Kevin.
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Re: CF and Novell?

2005-08-12 Thread Antony Sideropoulos
Sure - ping me when you have more details.
 Antony

 On 8/12/05, Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Thanks for the information. I'm not sure on the details of what they
 want to do, but I informed them to try out the cfldap stuff.
 
 Kevin.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Antony Sideropoulos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:00 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF and Novell?
 
 What are you trying to achieve?
 Novell Directory Services (NDS) has an LDAP interface if you need one -
 
 like Active Directory. You can use an anonymous bind to query the
 directory,
 or I believe you can use credentials supplied by the user to confirm
 username and password. (I've used the first approach, but not the second
 
 myself.)
 If you want a single sign on solution, there is a Novell activeX
 control
 that supplies the authenticated Novell user that you can run on the
 client
 PC, and you can use some VBScript to interrogate it and pass a value
 back to
 the webserver.
 Or, you can look at a product from Novell called i-Chain, and let it
 handle
 all your authentication requirements.
 I've done both of these things (activeX and i-Chain) if you have any
 questions about them.
 Antony
 
 On 8/12/05, Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Does anyone know of anything out there that will allow CF to talk with
  Novell? They want to avoid creating new logins for a web system. I
  personally have no idea about anything with Novell, but someone asked
 me
  about it. They were going to try to write a c++ cfx tag to achieve
  this, but I though I would find out if anyone else has better ideas.
 
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
  Kevin.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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CF and Novell?

2005-08-11 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
Does anyone know of anything out there that will allow CF to talk with
Novell?  They want to avoid creating new logins for a web system.  I
personally have no idea about anything with Novell, but someone asked me
about it.  They were going to try to write a c++ cfx tag to achieve
this, but I though I would find out if anyone else has better ideas.

 

Thanks.

 

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Re: CF and Novell?

2005-08-11 Thread John Beynon
didn't Novell go over to LDAP - or I'm pretty sure there is an LDAP plugin for 
Novell, that being the case you can just use CFLDAP thats built into CF

john.


Does anyone know of anything out there that will allow CF to talk with
Novell?  They want to avoid creating new logins for a web system.  I
personally have no idea about anything with Novell, but someone asked me
about it.  They were going to try to write a c++ cfx tag to achieve
this, but I though I would find out if anyone else has better ideas.

 

Thanks.

 

Kevin.

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Re: CF and Novell?

2005-08-11 Thread Antony Sideropoulos
What are you trying to achieve?
 Novell Directory Services (NDS) has an LDAP interface if you need one - 
like Active Directory. You can use an anonymous bind to query the directory, 
or I believe you can use credentials supplied by the user to confirm 
username and password. (I've used the first approach, but not the second 
myself.)
 If you want a single sign on solution, there is a Novell activeX control 
that supplies the authenticated Novell user that you can run on the client 
PC, and you can use some VBScript to interrogate it and pass a value back to 
the webserver.
 Or, you can look at a product from Novell called i-Chain, and let it handle 
all your authentication requirements.
 I've done both of these things (activeX and i-Chain) if you have any 
questions about them.
 Antony

 On 8/12/05, Kazmierczak, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Does anyone know of anything out there that will allow CF to talk with
 Novell? They want to avoid creating new logins for a web system. I
 personally have no idea about anything with Novell, but someone asked me
 about it. They were going to try to write a c++ cfx tag to achieve
 this, but I though I would find out if anyone else has better ideas.
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 Kevin.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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