CFPDFForm and Ability to Update From Reader Later?

2009-01-21 Thread Matthew Reinbold
I currently have a PDF form that has had usage rights enabled (in Acrobat under 
'Advanced' then 'Enable Usage Rightes'). If I give this form, as is, to someone 
with only Adobe Reader they can enter info, save it to their desktop, and 
continue editing again at their leisure. 

What I would like to do is pre-populate a number of fields of the PDF form 
based on certain application criteria and THEN email it to a person for 
additional data entry. However, when I try using CFPDFForm - either by itself 
to create a new PDF or inserted as a PDF between the CFDocument tags - opening 
the newly created PDF on a user's machine who only has Adobe Reader give the 
following message:

This document enabled extended features in Adobe Reader. This document has 
been changed since it was created and use of extended features is no longer 
available. Please contact the author for the original version of this document.

Is the copy produced by ColdFusion 'flattening' the PDF? What is going on? Why 
can't I populate a section of a PDF form automatically and then pass it off for 
additional data entry?

Matthew 

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Re: CFPDFForm and Ability to Update From Reader Later?

2009-01-21 Thread Dave Watts
 I currently have a PDF form that has had usage rights enabled (in Acrobat 
 under 'Advanced' then 'Enable Usage Rightes'). If I give this form, as is, to 
 someone with only Adobe Reader they
 can enter info, save it to their desktop, and continue editing again at their 
 leisure.

 What I would like to do is pre-populate a number of fields of the PDF form 
 based on certain application criteria and THEN email it to a person for 
 additional data entry. However, when I try
 using CFPDFForm - either by itself to create a new PDF or inserted as a PDF 
 between the CFDocument tags - opening the newly created PDF on a user's 
 machine who only has Adobe
 Reader give the following message:

 This document enabled extended features in Adobe Reader. This document has 
 been changed since it was created and use of extended features is no longer 
 available. Please contact the
 author for the original version of this document.

 Is the copy produced by ColdFusion 'flattening' the PDF? What is going on? 
 Why can't I populate a section of a PDF form automatically and then pass it 
 off for additional data entry?

You can't make changes with CF's PDF manipulation stuff without
breaking Reader Extensions functionality. That's just the way it is,
right now. You can do this sort of thing fairly easily with LiveCycle
ES; CF only includes a tiny subset of LCES functionality.

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Re: CFPDFForm and Ability to Update From Reader Later?

2009-01-21 Thread Matthew Reinbold
It's just the way it is

Not so. Apple Preview Users are able to edit the generated PDF's just fine. 
This seems to imply a couple things:

1) There is nothing wrong with the structure of the PDF - rather, Adobe Reader 
is enforcing arbitrary restrictions
2) Would they be doing this to encourage folks to get a LifeCycle license

Obviously, having employees using Apple Preview to process forms isn't 
dependable - I would think a call from Adobe to Apple and that little loophole 
would be patched up.

My biggest confusion is WHY Adobe CF would handle things that way?

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Re: CFPDFForm and Ability to Update From Reader Later?

2009-01-21 Thread Dave Watts
 It's just the way it is

 Not so. Apple Preview Users are able to edit the generated PDF's just fine.

Apple Preview is not Adobe Reader. It's a third-party application
which can do whatever Apple wants it to do with PDFs. Third-party PDF
applications are not constrained by the limitations of Adobe Reader.
It is, in fact, just the way it is that if you use CF to manipulate
Reader-enabled PDFs, that breaks the Reader Extensions functionality.

 This seems to imply a couple things:

 1) There is nothing wrong with the structure of the PDF - rather, Adobe 
 Reader is enforcing arbitrary restrictions
 2) Would they be doing this to encourage folks to get a LifeCycle license

 Obviously, having employees using Apple Preview to process forms isn't 
 dependable - I would think a call from Adobe to Apple and that little 
 loophole would be patched up.

 My biggest confusion is WHY Adobe CF would handle things that way?

I can't tell you why Adobe does things. I can only tell you how things
are. But yes, Adobe Reader does enforce arbitrary restrictions that
other PDF applications are free to ignore. And I'm sure Adobe would
like everyone to buy LiveCycle ES servers, too. I don't know why CF
breaks Reader Extensions functionality; I don't know if it's
intentional or just an oversight.

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