RE: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
I'd be very surprised if it's free. I suppose it might be bundled with CF9. I'm guessing a couple of hundred dollars personally. -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 August 2009 04:34 To: cf-talk Subject: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product? I've been using ColdFusion Builder and am more or less happy with it (any unhappiness stems from Eclipse quirks and limitations), but I have a question: Once it's out of beta, will CF Builder be a commercial product that will need to be purchased, or will it be available for free? Thanks Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
I'd heard that a set number of Builder licenses came with every server license, obviously proportional to the price of the edition. That makes a lot of sense. And then shared-host-only developers would need to purchase their own IDE license, etc. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Will Swain w...@hothorse.com wrote: I'd be very surprised if it's free. I suppose it might be bundled with CF9. I'm guessing a couple of hundred dollars personally. -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 August 2009 04:34 To: cf-talk Subject: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product? I've been using ColdFusion Builder and am more or less happy with it (any unhappiness stems from Eclipse quirks and limitations), but I have a question: Once it's out of beta, will CF Builder be a commercial product that will need to be purchased, or will it be available for free? Thanks Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325686 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
We've not made any announcments regarding packaging and pricing yet. Stay tuned. --- Ben (Sent from my phone, please pardon the typos) On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:11 PM, David McGuigan davidmcgui...@gmail.com wrote: I'd heard that a set number of Builder licenses came with every server license, obviously proportional to the price of the edition. That makes a lot of sense. And then shared-host-only developers would need to purchase their own IDE license, etc. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Will Swain w...@hothorse.com wrote: I'd be very surprised if it's free. I suppose it might be bundled with CF9. I'm guessing a couple of hundred dollars personally. -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 August 2009 04:34 To: cf-talk Subject: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product? I've been using ColdFusion Builder and am more or less happy with it (any unhappiness stems from Eclipse quirks and limitations), but I have a question: Once it's out of beta, will CF Builder be a commercial product that will need to be purchased, or will it be available for free? Thanks Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325697 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
I'd be stunned if it were free, but it sure would be nice if it were Cheap Maybe they'll make it free to the same audiences they make flex builder free for Rick ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325701 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Rick Root rick.r...@webworksllc.comwrote: I'd be stunned if it were free, but it sure would be nice if it were Cheap Maybe they'll make it free to the same audiences they make flex builder free for Rick You mean the unemployed LOL ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325702 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Casey Dougallca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: You mean the unemployed LOL I suppose if that fits your need. For me, it's people who work at educational institutions =) -- Rick Root CFFM - Open Source Coldfusion File Manager http://www.opensourcecf.com/cffm ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325704 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
Well, as a teacher who teaches ColdFusion development in his high school classroom, I'd fully support it being free. I also think that giving it away would pay dividends down the road, as it would open the language up to many more potential developers, which would have a direct translation into more sales of CF server products. Builder uses Eclipse as its foundation, which is a free/open source product, so much of their development effort is going to providing fundtionality that is specific to Adobe's products. Perhaps they will follow Aptana's model and have a standard version that is fine for most, and a souped up version that a few might wish to pay for? Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325703 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
I've been using ColdFusion Builder and am more or less happy with it (any unhappiness stems from Eclipse quirks and limitations), but I have a question: Once it's out of beta, will CF Builder be a commercial product that will need to be purchased, or will it be available for free? Thanks Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Builder - free or commercial product?
To this point, Adobe and it's ancestors have charged for all their development products: HomeSite, CF Studio, Dreamweaver, UltraDev, FlexBuilder, perhaps others? They also obviously charge for their design products (the Creative Suite's members). It stands to reason that FlashBuilder and CF Builder will cost to purchase when released. I would say it's theoretically possible FlashBuilder and CF Builder (minus some features) might be released for free with the extra stuff available as paid upgrades, but nothing I've heard indicates that's likely. All that said, regardless of whether they cost money to use, they will certainly be commercial products and licensed as such. cheers, barneyb On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Pete Ruckelshauspruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using ColdFusion Builder and am more or less happy with it (any unhappiness stems from Eclipse quirks and limitations), but I have a question: Once it's out of beta, will CF Builder be a commercial product that will need to be purchased, or will it be available for free? Thanks Pete ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325655 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
