ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)

Hi All,

 

I have a short turn around on this so hopefully someone can help. I have
searched the Adobe website, but I didn't find the appropriate documents.

 

As I understand it if you purchase ColdFusion Enterprise edition, you
get to use it on 2 machines (Production, Development/Hot Spare), and
that you get one or more builder licenses with the purchase.  We are
trying to do our budget for software right now and I need to have the
documents that state this. Does anyone have the URLs for the documents
that state this?  Or, can you tell me if I misunderstood the above?

 

Thanks,

Steve Durette

 

 



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Re: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread Russ Michaels

Steve,

there was a special promotion to get a cfbuilder and flash builder with each
purchase, I do not know if that promotion is still active, if you cannot
find it on the Adobe site then I guess not.

All editions of CF can be used for development completely FREE, they simply
have an IP address connection  limit.

I believe the hot spare option is true, although if you are using Virtual
Machines on the same server, then you can install it as many times as you
like on the same physical server, and if in the Cloud (unknown which server
you are using for each virtual machine), you get 10 installations.

Russ

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:33 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) 
sd1...@att.com wrote:


 Hi All,



 I have a short turn around on this so hopefully someone can help. I have
 searched the Adobe website, but I didn't find the appropriate documents.



 As I understand it if you purchase ColdFusion Enterprise edition, you
 get to use it on 2 machines (Production, Development/Hot Spare), and
 that you get one or more builder licenses with the purchase.  We are
 trying to do our budget for software right now and I need to have the
 documents that state this. Does anyone have the URLs for the documents
 that state this?  Or, can you tell me if I misunderstood the above?



 Thanks,

 Steve Durette







 

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RE: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)

I swear that I saw somewhere (I thought on this list but couldn't find
it) that the licensing for CF9 was a change for what I had said before
about the dev/hot spare, and it didn't have the ip restrictions.

I thought that Adam had put both of the items out on this list, but I
was looking for the actual in writing info.

Thanks,
Steve


-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:42 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion License and Builder


Steve,

there was a special promotion to get a cfbuilder and flash builder with
each
purchase, I do not know if that promotion is still active, if you cannot
find it on the Adobe site then I guess not.

All editions of CF can be used for development completely FREE, they
simply
have an IP address connection  limit.

I believe the hot spare option is true, although if you are using
Virtual
Machines on the same server, then you can install it as many times as
you
like on the same physical server, and if in the Cloud (unknown which
server
you are using for each virtual machine), you get 10 installations.

Russ


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RE: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)

I found the EULA for ColdFusion. Here are the appropriate sections:

3.1.3 If Licensee purchases one or more Production Software licenses,
then Adobe also grants Licensee the
right to install and use the Software as Development Software for
internal development, testing and staging.

3.2 Development Software License. This Section 3.2 applies only if
Licensee has obtained either a valid
developer edition of the Software or one or more separate Production
Software licenses (see Section 3.1.3).
Adobe grants Licensee a license to install and use the Software as
Development Software on one Server.
Licensee must separately obtain the right to install or use the Software
as Developer Software on more than
one Server. In addition to the other terms contained herein, Licensee's
license to the Development Software
is limited to use in Licensee's technical environment strictly for
testing and development purposes and not
for production purposes. Licensee may (a) install the Development
Software on Servers connected to
Licensee's Internal Network provided that the total number of Computers
used to operate the Development
Software does not exceed the licensed number of Servers, and (b) permit
Authorized Users to use the
Development Software in accordance with this Agreement. Licensee shall
not (i) use the Development
Software for any application deployment in a live or stand-by production
environment, in each case,
including, without limitation, in any environment accessed by
application end-users including but not
limited to servers, workstations, kiosks, and mobile computers, (ii)
access the Development Software from
more than a single IP address at any given time, or (c) use the
Development Software to deploy
applications that are accessed by end users. NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO
THE CONTRARY,
THE DEVELOPMENT SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED TO LICENSEE BY ADOBE ON AN AS IS
BASIS,
AND ADOBE DISCLAIMS ANY WARRANTY OR LIABILITY OBLIGATIONS TO LICENSEE OF
ANY KIND.

Now if I could only find the stuff about free builder licenses with the
purchase of CF.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:42 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion License and Builder


Steve,

there was a special promotion to get a cfbuilder and flash builder with
each
purchase, I do not know if that promotion is still active, if you cannot
find it on the Adobe site then I guess not.

All editions of CF can be used for development completely FREE, they
simply
have an IP address connection  limit.

I believe the hot spare option is true, although if you are using
Virtual
Machines on the same server, then you can install it as many times as
you
like on the same physical server, and if in the Cloud (unknown which
server
you are using for each virtual machine), you get 10 installations.

Russ

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RE: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread Jason Fisher

Dev and Hot Spare are 2 different things.  You can always install full 
Enterprise on any server in Dev mode for free, and that has a 2 IP limit.  
Hot spare is a licensing change (came in 8.0.1, iirc) that allows a 'dark' 
server to have a full installation re-using your production license, but 
those 2 servers (production and hot spare) cannot both be running at the 
same time.  This allows for true failover setups without doubling license 
costs, on Adobe's assumption that you are not really going to run both.



From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) sd1...@att.com
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:46 AM
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: ColdFusion License and Builder

I swear that I saw somewhere (I thought on this list but couldn't find
it) that the licensing for CF9 was a change for what I had said before
about the dev/hot spare, and it didn't have the ip restrictions.

I thought that Adam had put both of the items out on this list, but I
was looking for the actual in writing info.

Thanks,
Steve





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Re: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread Ian Skinner

On 3/10/2011 6:47 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) wrote:
 I swear that I saw somewhere (I thought on this list but couldn't find
 it) that the licensing for CF9 was a change for what I had said before
 about the dev/hot spare, and it didn't have the ip restrictions.

Yes, the EULA for CF9 has language that allows one to use the same 
license for a production server on a staging/cold backup/development 
environments.  I don't know about the web site, but you should be able 
to find it in the EULA, and an internet search should turn up a couple 
of blogs that highlight the changes in the EULA.

The free developer license (aka no license) that has long existed has a 
two IP restriction.



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RE: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)

I found what I needed for the development server info in the EULA.
Thanks though.

I also found the info about CF Builder with ColdFusion. You had to
purchase before Jan 1, 2011. If we had we would have gotten 3
complimentary copies with every purchase of CF 9 Enterprise.

http://forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2010/10/7/Buy-ColdFusion-9-Get-Free-Copi
es-Of-ColdFusion-Builder 

Thanks,
Steve


-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:57 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion License and Builder


On 3/10/2011 6:47 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) wrote:
 I swear that I saw somewhere (I thought on this list but couldn't find
 it) that the licensing for CF9 was a change for what I had said before
 about the dev/hot spare, and it didn't have the ip restrictions.

Yes, the EULA for CF9 has language that allows one to use the same 
license for a production server on a staging/cold backup/development 
environments.  I don't know about the web site, but you should be able 
to find it in the EULA, and an internet search should turn up a couple 
of blogs that highlight the changes in the EULA.

The free developer license (aka no license) that has long existed has a 
two IP restriction.





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RE: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread Eric Roberts

I also remember that starting with 9 (or it could have been 8) that you can
use your server license on development and testing  servers.  Please correct
me if I am wrong on that.  It may have been a special deal as well).

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 08:42 
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion License and Builder


Steve,

there was a special promotion to get a cfbuilder and flash builder with each
purchase, I do not know if that promotion is still active, if you cannot
find it on the Adobe site then I guess not.

All editions of CF can be used for development completely FREE, they simply
have an IP address connection  limit.

I believe the hot spare option is true, although if you are using Virtual
Machines on the same server, then you can install it as many times as you
like on the same physical server, and if in the Cloud (unknown which server
you are using for each virtual machine), you get 10 installations.

Russ

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:33 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) 
sd1...@att.com wrote:


 Hi All,



 I have a short turn around on this so hopefully someone can help. I 
 have searched the Adobe website, but I didn't find the appropriate
documents.



 As I understand it if you purchase ColdFusion Enterprise edition, you 
 get to use it on 2 machines (Production, Development/Hot Spare), and 
 that you get one or more builder licenses with the purchase.  We are 
 trying to do our budget for software right now and I need to have the 
 documents that state this. Does anyone have the URLs for the documents 
 that state this?  Or, can you tell me if I misunderstood the above?



 Thanks,

 Steve Durette







 



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RE: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)

Eric,

You are correct on that. I posted the relevant parts of the EULA in a
previous email.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:39 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion License and Builder


I also remember that starting with 9 (or it could have been 8) that you
can
use your server license on development and testing  servers.  Please
correct
me if I am wrong on that.  It may have been a special deal as well).

Eric


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Re: ColdFusion License and Builder

2011-03-10 Thread Carl Von Stetten

Adobe modified the EULA again for CF9 to allow Standard and Enterprise 
to installed as Production Software on one server, as Disaster 
Recovery Software (or as you called it a 'dark' server) on a different 
single server, and as Development Software for internal development, 
testing, and staging on an unspecified number of additional servers.

Carl

On 3/10/2011 6:56 AM, Jason Fisher wrote:
 Dev and Hot Spare are 2 different things.  You can always install full
 Enterprise on any server in Dev mode for free, and that has a 2 IP limit.
 Hot spare is a licensing change (came in 8.0.1, iirc) that allows a 'dark'
 server to have a full installation re-using your production license, but
 those 2 servers (production and hot spare) cannot both be running at the
 same time.  This allows for true failover setups without doubling license
 costs, on Adobe's assumption that you are not really going to run both.

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