Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
On Tuesday 01 Jun 2010 20:44:12 you wrote: I've seen a couple of Javascript libraries that create support for the semantic tags (header, footer etc), but support for canvas, video and audio And even then, what codec are you going to use for VIDEO ? All 3 ? won't be mainstream unitl IE9 comes out (I'm not a M$ fanboy, but it is the most widely used browser). IE overall is, but you really have to look at each version as a separate product, in which case it really isn't :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to efficiently unleash vertical revolutionary edge-of-your-seat prospective action-items as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334220 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
FYI I upgraded from XP to Windows 7 and have had zero issues. andy -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:lesm...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it It won't even be mainstream then. There's still an awful lot of people out there running XP XP isn't broke. I've seen no reason to fix it myself so far. Guess I'm one of those awful lot of people. If MS had given me an upgrade path from XP instead of a delete everything start from scratch install all your crap from the beginning path, I might have made the move to Win 7 already. But, I can't afford the down time to upgrade. Maybe dual boot at some point so I can keep running and slowly over everything over. Later. Sometime. remember that at least 15% of web traffic (a hair over by my stats actually) is still on IE6. My main client is an office building full of attorneys using IE6. They don't care if it works in anything else AT ALL, but it damn well better work in IE 6!! Drives me crazy. that assumes that Firefox/Chrome/Opera haven't gotten to half market share by that point, which they may at the rate they're growing. Please great and powerful Cthulhu grant us a standards complaint browser that maketh the entire IE line vanish from this plain of existance. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5164 (20100601) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334223 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
I'm currently using the video tag with a MS IE fallback (in Flash - JWPlayer) in a new webshop we're currently releasing. Works in all modern browsers. Do need two movie-files though, but that is overcomeable (is that a word?). Sebastiaan = So long and thanx 4 all the fish == Onlinebase.nl Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:13:29 +0100 Subject: Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it From: tom.chiver...@halliwells.com To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com On Tuesday 01 Jun 2010 20:44:12 you wrote: I've seen a couple of Javascript libraries that create support for the semantic tags (header, footer etc), but support for canvas, video and audio And even then, what codec are you going to use for VIDEO ? All 3 ? won't be mainstream unitl IE9 comes out (I'm not a M$ fanboy, but it is the most widely used browser). IE overall is, but you really have to look at each version as a separate product, in which case it really isn't :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to efficiently unleash vertical revolutionary edge-of-your-seat prospective action-items as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.co ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
Actually...from nuking the partition on my disk to having all of my software installed with Win7 took about 6 hours or so. Win 7 is probably the quickest install of an OS I have seen as of yet. When you go to a new OS, it is always best to do a clean install rather than an upgrade. Eric -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:lesm...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:25 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it It won't even be mainstream then. There's still an awful lot of people out there running XP XP isn't broke. I've seen no reason to fix it myself so far. Guess I'm one of those awful lot of people. If MS had given me an upgrade path from XP instead of a delete everything start from scratch install all your crap from the beginning path, I might have made the move to Win 7 already. But, I can't afford the down time to upgrade. Maybe dual boot at some point so I can keep running and slowly over everything over. Later. Sometime. remember that at least 15% of web traffic (a hair over by my stats actually) is still on IE6. My main client is an office building full of attorneys using IE6. They don't care if it works in anything else AT ALL, but it damn well better work in IE 6!! Drives me crazy. that assumes that Firefox/Chrome/Opera haven't gotten to half market share by that point, which they may at the rate they're growing. Please great and powerful Cthulhu grant us a standards complaint browser that maketh the entire IE line vanish from this plain of existance. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5164 (20100601) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334233 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: When you go to a new OS, it is always best to do a clean install rather than an upgrade. On Windows, probably. On a Mac, upgrades are pretty much always very straightforward and quick (and Mac OS upgrades are normally pretty cheap by comparison to Windows). -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
I'm starting to dig into HTML 5, and so far, apart from some of the CSS3 attributes, I don't see anything that jumps out and says ready for prime time. The browser support is spotty at best, let's be real does it really matter if Opera supports something? If IE and Firefox don't have support for something then it's not mainstream, am I wrong here? Is anyone implementing any of this on a public facing production site? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334186 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
While I agree with you that it's not ready, one of the benefits to using it is that if a browser doesn't understand something, then it'll just skip it. And if you're deadset on running your code as fully HTML 5, you could always output it as XML then render it with your own XSLT doc while you wait until it's ready: http://ishtml5readyyet.com/ andy -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:11 PM To: cf-talk Subject: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it I'm starting to dig into HTML 5, and so far, apart from some of the CSS3 attributes, I don't see anything that jumps out and says ready for prime time. The browser support is spotty at best, let's be real does it really matter if Opera supports something? If IE and Firefox don't have support for something then it's not mainstream, am I wrong here? Is anyone implementing any of this on a public facing production site? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
On a side note, here's a dissenting viewpoint: http://ishtml5ready.com/ -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:11 PM To: cf-talk Subject: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it I'm starting to dig into HTML 5, and so far, apart from some of the CSS3 attributes, I don't see anything that jumps out and says ready for prime time. The browser support is spotty at best, let's be real does it really matter if Opera supports something? If IE and Firefox don't have support for something then it's not mainstream, am I wrong here? Is anyone implementing any of this on a public facing production site? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
So is this the official opinion? ALl I get when I hit that page is the following error. Content Encoding Error The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. * Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. Humorous at least. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator Wil Genovese Consulting wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Andy Matthews wrote: On a side note, here's a dissenting viewpoint: http://ishtml5ready.com/ -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:11 PM To: cf-talk Subject: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it I'm starting to dig into HTML 5, and so far, apart from some of the CSS3 attributes, I don't see anything that jumps out and says ready for prime time. The browser support is spotty at best, let's be real does it really matter if Opera supports something? If IE and Firefox don't have support for something then it's not mainstream, am I wrong here? Is anyone implementing any of this on a public facing production site? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
I've seen a couple of Javascript libraries that create support for the semantic tags (header, footer etc), but support for canvas, video and audio won't be mainstream unitl IE9 comes out (I'm not a M$ fanboy, but it is the most widely used browser). On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Andy Matthews li...@commadelimited.com wrote: While I agree with you that it's not ready, one of the benefits to using it is that if a browser doesn't understand something, then it'll just skip it. And if you're deadset on running your code as fully HTML 5, you could always output it as XML then render it with your own XSLT doc while you wait until it's ready: http://ishtml5readyyet.com/ andy -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:webmas...@sstwebworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:11 PM To: cf-talk Subject: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it I'm starting to dig into HTML 5, and so far, apart from some of the CSS3 attributes, I don't see anything that jumps out and says ready for prime time. The browser support is spotty at best, let's be real does it really matter if Opera supports something? If IE and Firefox don't have support for something then it's not mainstream, am I wrong here? Is anyone implementing any of this on a public facing production site? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
I've seen a couple of Javascript libraries that create support for the semantic tags (header, footer etc), but support for canvas, video and audio won't be mainstream unitl IE9 comes out (I'm not a M$ fanboy, but it is the most widely used browser). It won't even be mainstream then. There's still an awful lot of people out there running XP who won't be able to upgrade to IE9. Plus remember that at least 15% of web traffic (a hair over by my stats actually) is still on IE6. It's going to be years before IE9 peaks over the 50% mark, and that assumes that Firefox/Chrome/Opera haven't gotten to half market share by that point, which they may at the rate they're growing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
Kris, But don't you think that HTML over smart phones is an up and coming market - as the small screen becomes more and more important it seems like an important item to learn. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Kris Sisk [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:23 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it I've seen a couple of Javascript libraries that create support for the semantic tags (header, footer etc), but support for canvas, video and audio won't be mainstream unitl IE9 comes out (I'm not a M$ fanboy, but it is the most widely used browser). It won't even be mainstream then. There's still an awful lot of people out there running XP who won't be able to upgrade to IE9. Plus remember that at least 15% of web traffic (a hair over by my stats actually) is still on IE6. It's going to be years before IE9 peaks over the 50% mark, and that assumes that Firefox/Chrome/Opera haven't gotten to half market share by that point, which they may at the rate they're growing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
That's one of the big selling points with smart phones like the Droid and iPhone... -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:36 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it Kris, But don't you think that HTML over smart phones is an up and coming market - as the small screen becomes more and more important it seems like an important item to learn. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Kris Sisk [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 4:23 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it I've seen a couple of Javascript libraries that create support for the semantic tags (header, footer etc), but support for canvas, video and audio won't be mainstream unitl IE9 comes out (I'm not a M$ fanboy, but it is the most widely used browser). It won't even be mainstream then. There's still an awful lot of people out there running XP who won't be able to upgrade to IE9. Plus remember that at least 15% of web traffic (a hair over by my stats actually) is still on IE6. It's going to be years before IE9 peaks over the 50% mark, and that assumes that Firefox/Chrome/Opera haven't gotten to half market share by that point, which they may at the rate they're growing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: I'm starting to dig into HTML 5, and so far, apart from some of the CSS3 attributes, I don't see anything that jumps out and says ready for prime time. The browser support is spotty at best, let's be real does it really matter if Opera supports something? If IE and Firefox don't have support for something then it's not mainstream, am I wrong here? This page has demos of various features with indicators of which browsers support what: http://html5demos.com/ IE8 supports some HTML5 stuff already and Microsoft appear to be strongly behind HTML5 based on a recent presentation I saw that talked about HTML5/CSS3 support in IE8 and IE9. Given how laggardly they've been in the past about standards, I was pleasantly surprised by their (apparent) stance on this. A number of companies are pushing HTML5/CSS3 pretty hard... As for production work, it's going to depend on your target audience. Some people are still constrained to support IE6, some people are able to push the envelope. The support for HTML5/CSS3 in browsers on mobile devices will probably be the key issue here. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
The great thing (or not so great, depending on your view) is that older browsers will simply ignore the markup they don't understand. That allows you to gracefully fallback for older legacy browsers. -Dan On Tuesday, June 1, 2010, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote: I'm starting to dig into HTML 5, and so far, apart from some of the CSS3 attributes, I don't see anything that jumps out and says ready for prime time. The browser support is spotty at best, let's be real does it really matter if Opera supports something? If IE and Firefox don't have support for something then it's not mainstream, am I wrong here? This page has demos of various features with indicators of which browsers support what: http://html5demos.com/ IE8 supports some HTML5 stuff already and Microsoft appear to be strongly behind HTML5 based on a recent presentation I saw that talked about HTML5/CSS3 support in IE8 and IE9. Given how laggardly they've been in the past about standards, I was pleasantly surprised by their (apparent) stance on this. A number of companies are pushing HTML5/CSS3 pretty hard... As for production work, it's going to depend on your target audience. Some people are still constrained to support IE6, some people are able to push the envelope. The support for HTML5/CSS3 in browsers on mobile devices will probably be the key issue here. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
It won't even be mainstream then. There's still an awful lot of people out there running XP XP isn't broke. I've seen no reason to fix it myself so far. Guess I'm one of those awful lot of people. If MS had given me an upgrade path from XP instead of a delete everything start from scratch install all your crap from the beginning path, I might have made the move to Win 7 already. But, I can't afford the down time to upgrade. Maybe dual boot at some point so I can keep running and slowly over everything over. Later. Sometime. remember that at least 15% of web traffic (a hair over by my stats actually) is still on IE6. My main client is an office building full of attorneys using IE6. They don't care if it works in anything else AT ALL, but it damn well better work in IE 6!! Drives me crazy. that assumes that Firefox/Chrome/Opera haven't gotten to half market share by that point, which they may at the rate they're growing. Please great and powerful Cthulhu grant us a standards complaint browser that maketh the entire IE line vanish from this plain of existance. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5164 (20100601) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HTML 5, has anyone done anything more than played with it
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Les Mizzell lesm...@bellsouth.net wrote: It won't even be mainstream then. There's still an awful lot of people out there running XP XP isn't broke. I've seen no reason to fix it myself so far. Guess I'm one of those awful lot of people. If MS had given me an upgrade path from XP instead of a delete everything start from scratch install all your crap from the beginning path, I might have made the move to Win 7 already. Check out Windows Easy Transfer: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/features/easy-transfer.aspx It's actually really good stuff. Mark -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com cf.Objective(ANZ) - Nov 18, 19 - Melbourne Australia http://www.cfobjective.com.au Hands-on ColdFusion ORM Training www.ColdFusionOrmTraining.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:334218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
