Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Created almost a year ago: http://www.frappr.com/cfdevelopers On 3/1/07, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow... that's reminds me of the days of Flash 3 when I heard a Java guy say that Flash would never touch the popularity of Java... Web 2.0 is the real deal and you can't touch Flex for RAD. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K And to add I very much doubt Flex users will ever suprecede ColdFusion users. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: greg h To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Feb 28 23:05:41 2007 Subject: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K Just an fyi ... John Dowdell excerpted some comments that Dave Mendelshttp://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidmendels ...htmlhad posted last month: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/02/flex_adoption.cfm Specific quote from Dave Mendels: We have an active community of about 300K ColdFusion developers, well over a million Flash designer/developers, and several million Dreamweaver customers. The post that Dave was commenting on was written by Shashank Tiwarihttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2799who started his post out with: Today we have between 3 and 4 million Java developers. g ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271333 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
On Wednesday 28 Feb 2007, Eric Roberts wrote: According to technical recruiters that have been calling me for positions inChicago and in other parts of the country...not enough... Same in the UK - when I was job hunting last year it was more a case of where I wanted to work than where the work was. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to biannually morph bleeding-edge mindshares On: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Wow... that's reminds me of the days of Flash 3 when I heard a Java guy say that Flash would never touch the popularity of Java... Web 2.0 is the real deal and you can't touch Flex for RAD. !k -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K And to add I very much doubt Flex users will ever suprecede ColdFusion users. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: greg h To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Feb 28 23:05:41 2007 Subject: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K Just an fyi ... John Dowdell excerpted some comments that Dave Mendelshttp://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidmendels ...htmlhad posted last month: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/02/flex_adoption.cfm Specific quote from Dave Mendels: We have an active community of about 300K ColdFusion developers, well over a million Flash designer/developers, and several million Dreamweaver customers. The post that Dave was commenting on was written by Shashank Tiwarihttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2799who started his post out with: Today we have between 3 and 4 million Java developers. g ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271162 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Just an fyi ... John Dowdell excerpted some comments that Dave Mendelshttp://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidmendels.htmlhad posted last month: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/02/flex_adoption.cfm Specific quote from Dave Mendels: We have an active community of about 300K ColdFusion developers, well over a million Flash designer/developers, and several million Dreamweaver customers. The post that Dave was commenting on was written by Shashank Tiwarihttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2799who started his post out with: Today we have between 3 and 4 million Java developers. g ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271024 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Not that I have the free time to build it these days... But can I propose an International Registry of CF Developers? I'd love to know how many of us there really are, especially by location... -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, AZCFUG.org ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271025 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Can't say I have had time to count them. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: greg h To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Feb 28 23:05:41 2007 Subject: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K Just an fyi ... John Dowdell excerpted some comments that Dave Mendelshttp://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidmendels ..htmlhad posted last month: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/02/flex_adoption.cfm Specific quote from Dave Mendels: We have an active community of about 300K ColdFusion developers, well over a million Flash designer/developers, and several million Dreamweaver customers. The post that Dave was commenting on was written by Shashank Tiwarihttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2799who started his post out with: Today we have between 3 and 4 million Java developers. g ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271026 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
I think we should all be forced to get tattoos. -Original Message- From: Alan Rother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K Not that I have the free time to build it these days... But can I propose an International Registry of CF Developers? I'd love to know how many of us there really are, especially by location... -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, AZCFUG.org ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271027 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Let me check our database. ;-) greg h wrote: Just an fyi ... John Dowdell excerpted some comments that Dave Mendelshttp://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidmendels.htmlhad posted last month: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/02/flex_adoption.cfm Specific quote from Dave Mendels: We have an active community of about 300K ColdFusion developers, well over a million Flash designer/developers, and several million Dreamweaver customers. The post that Dave was commenting on was written by Shashank Tiwarihttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2799who started his post out with: Today we have between 3 and 4 million Java developers. g ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271028 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
According to technical recruiters that have been calling me for positions inChicago and in other parts of the country...not enough... They are apparently having a hard time finding people to fill positions. Eric -Original Message- From: greg h [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K Just an fyi ... John Dowdell excerpted some comments that Dave Mendelshttp://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidmendels.htmlhad posted last month: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/02/flex_adoption.cfm Specific quote from Dave Mendels: We have an active community of about 300K ColdFusion developers, well over a million Flash designer/developers, and several million Dreamweaver customers. The post that Dave was commenting on was written by Shashank Tiwarihttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2799who started his post out with: Today we have between 3 and 4 million Java developers. g ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271029 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
I think we should all be forced to get tattoos. Barcodes and a picture of Ben Forta? -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, AZCFUG.org ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271030 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Also, this quote has been around since Allaire...it has always been this magical 300K figure, never seems to increase or decrease? lol. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: greg h To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Feb 28 23:05:41 2007 Subject: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K Just an fyi ... John Dowdell excerpted some comments that Dave Mendelshttp://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidmendels ..htmlhad posted last month: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/02/flex_adoption.cfm Specific quote from Dave Mendels: We have an active community of about 300K ColdFusion developers, well over a million Flash designer/developers, and several million Dreamweaver customers. The post that Dave was commenting on was written by Shashank Tiwarihttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2799who started his post out with: Today we have between 3 and 4 million Java developers. g ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271032 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Well there is Fusioneers (http://www.fusioneers.com/). And I already have two tats. no need for more. Unless it is a barcode on the back of my neck. LOL. On 2/28/07, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should all be forced to get tattoos. - ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271031 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
On 2/28/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, this quote has been around since Allaire...it has always been this magical 300K figure, never seems to increase or decrease? Seems that way doesn't it? I'd bet its marketspeak for A lot and this number sounds good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janitor, The Robertson Team mysecretbase.com ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271033 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Honestly, since ColdFusion 4 (maybe even before) this was the mythical figure... This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Feb 28 23:22:14 2007 Subject: Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K On 2/28/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, this quote has been around since Allaire...it has always been this magical 300K figure, never seems to increase or decrease? Seems that way doesn't it? I'd bet its marketspeak for A lot and this number sounds good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janitor, The Robertson Team mysecretbase.com ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271034 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
And to add I very much doubt Flex users will ever suprecede ColdFusion users. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: greg h To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Feb 28 23:05:41 2007 Subject: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K Just an fyi ... John Dowdell excerpted some comments that Dave Mendelshttp://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/executivebios/davidmendels ..htmlhad posted last month: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/02/flex_adoption.cfm Specific quote from Dave Mendels: We have an active community of about 300K ColdFusion developers, well over a million Flash designer/developers, and several million Dreamweaver customers. The post that Dave was commenting on was written by Shashank Tiwarihttp://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2799who started his post out with: Today we have between 3 and 4 million Java developers. g ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271035 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Check out http://www.cfmaps.com. It isn't official yet, but it is up and ready. Nic Alan Rother wrote: Not that I have the free time to build it these days... But can I propose an International Registry of CF Developers? I'd love to know how many of us there really are, especially by location... -- Nicholas M Tunney Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Adobe Certified ColdFusion Instructor Adobe Community Expert Blog - http://www.nictunney.com ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271043 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How Many CF Developers Are There: Dave Mendels Says 300K
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: And to add I very much doubt Flex users will ever suprecede ColdFusion users. if by suprecede you mean outnumber, i would say it's a good possibility that flex developers might one day outnumber cf ones. after all flex is UI technology that can use pretty much any backend technology. if you follow the flexcoders list you'll see messages from .net, java, php, ror, etc. people. of course using cf w/flex is drop dead simple, so maybe all those mis-guided folks will wake up smell the cf coffee :-) ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:271051 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
