Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
> installs itself as a separate program, and then links itself into your > existing Eclipse installation, you lose the ability to have a shared > Eclipse installation with everyone using the same binaries across the > network. You do ? Why can't you install Builder into this 'master' install and use that across the network ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to continuously deliver professional B2B infomediaries This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316411 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
>>I've said before ColdFusion developers do not know what they are missing until they use Eclipse for Java. Or NetBeans for that matter. When I started using NetBeans I was floored. Take a look at some of the tutes: http://www.netbeans.org/kb/ G! On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've said before ColdFusion developers do not know what they are missing > until they use Eclipse for Java. The same can be said for Java developers > that have not tried IntelliJ. > > Adam > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Ah, just checked out the flash demos - I see what you mean. Sadly, at work we are on managed desktops and are stuck with DW8! Oh the pain. Dom 2008/12/3 Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I've said before ColdFusion developers do not know what they are missing > until they use Eclipse for Java. The same can be said for Java developers > that have not tried IntelliJ. > > Adam > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
I've said before ColdFusion developers do not know what they are missing until they use Eclipse for Java. The same can be said for Java developers that have not tried IntelliJ. Adam On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Dominic Watson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've not done extensive Java work in Eclipse but when I have done I > have found the IDE a dream to use (with quick, efficient and > enlightening code hinting and refactoring) - I'd be highly impressed > if there was an editor that gave £187 worth of improvement on that. > However, I'd love that same power in a javascript editor so that'd be > really interesting to see. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
I've not done extensive Java work in Eclipse but when I have done I have found the IDE a dream to use (with quick, efficient and enlightening code hinting and refactoring) - I'd be highly impressed if there was an editor that gave £187 worth of improvement on that. However, I'd love that same power in a javascript editor so that'd be really interesting to see. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Very good point, I personally do not see what the big hangup on some of these price tags are. If the tools truly make people more efficient then they pay for themselves rather quickly. I personally just in the past couple of weeks have spent somewhere around $2k on various tools and most certainly could have found free ones to do each of those jobs but I found the commercial ones to be much more efficient for me. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $250 is cheap for an commercial IDE. CFEclipse is great and I use it > pretty much exclusively, but if a $250 offering can save you 1 minute > per day in productivity, it's worth it after only a year at $50/hour. > If your time is worth more or your license lasts longer (both quite > likely), it only need save you a few handfuls of seconds to be worth > it and that's easy to come by with optimized autocomplete alone. > > Don't get me wrong, I'd love for the best IDE to be freely available > for personal use since I do a lot of development outside a > working-for-pay arrangement, but CFEclipse adequately fills that > niche. > > A much larger stumbling block for Bolt will be the Eclipse > integration, I think. Eclipse users don't want to have their Eclipse > environment hosed by some plugin (cough...FlexBuilder...cough). I run > duplicate Eclipse environments (one for Flex, one for everything else) > for just this reason. If you just want a ColdFusion IDE, it doesn't > matter, but if you use the Eclipse platform for CFML (and Java, > Groovy, PHP - ick, database, JS, CSS, etc.) development it's a bigger > deal. > > cheers, > barneyb > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From here. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp?top > > > > All I'm hoping for is a lower price than that when Bolt is released. > > > > Wil Genovese > > > > One man with courage makes a majority. > > -Andrew Jackson > > > > A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. > > > > On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: > > > >> Stupid question - where did $250 come from? > >> > >> (I'd be happy with $250) > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Let's hope Adobe notices this response when the set pricing for > >>> "Bolt" I had the same response to the price tag. > >>> > >>> > >>> Wil Genovese > >>> > >>> One man with courage makes a majority. > >>> -Andrew Jackson > >>> > >>> A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. > >>> > >>> On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: > >>> > hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have > DW, > which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am > almost happy with... > though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider > testing > it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by > JetBrains for a free edition)... > > Azadi Saryev > Sabai-dee.com > http://www.sabai-dee.com/ > > > > Kenton Gray wrote: > > With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good > > time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been > > working on a CFML plugin. > > > > It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. > > In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most > > amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete > > and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with > > debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. > > > > It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and > > have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! > > > > Here is the download link: > > http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 > > > > Here is the blog to watch for updates: > > http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ > > > > Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports > > and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop > > them a line. > > > > Kenton > > > > PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE > > around > > > > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
In response to the issue of cost, I understand the sentiment but if you are doing any extensive Java or Javascript editing professionally I think the issue is moot. I've used CFEclipse since the first week it was released and I appreciate Spike's and Mark's work on making the first real CF IDE, but I think IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse as a multi language IDE. The CFML plugin is not feature complete with CFEclipse but the rate of improvement is quite encouraging! I'd recommend anyone who has large javascript libraries to try out IntelliJ and see how nice it is to have an IDE that treats javascript like a real programming language, I've used Aptana and JSEditor in eclipse and they really can't compare. You can actually refactor methods and variables across an entire project. Also I have to mention the java refactorings available in IntelliJ are very impressive and time saving, I haven't really used the Flex/AS3 editor but from what I understand you get to use the same refactorings. Just my 2 cents, and again I don't work for JetBrains but I do really enjoy the IDE, and find its cost to be worthwhile. Kenton PS, if cost is truly a big deal and you don't mind living on the edge you can use the EAP releases (a beta) which includes a 30 day trial and is released once a week. >hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have DW, >which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am >almost happy with... >though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider testing >it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by >JetBrains for a free edition)... > >Azadi Saryev >Sabai-dee.com >http://www.sabai-dee.com/ > > > >Kent >> ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
The actual plugin works fine, but it breaks the Eclipse-i-ness of your install because of the way it's packaged. Specifically, since it installs itself as a separate program, and then links itself into your existing Eclipse installation, you lose the ability to have a shared Eclipse installation with everyone using the same binaries across the network. That makes keeping things synced across a large team enormously easier, but FlexBuilder prevents that usage model. Hence a separate Eclipse instance for FlexBuilder. cheers, barneyb On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 03 Dec 2008, Barney Boisvert wrote: >> A much larger stumbling block for Bolt will be the Eclipse >> integration, I think. Eclipse users don't want to have their Eclipse >> environment hosed by some plugin (cough...FlexBuilder...cough). > > What do you mean there ? Builder works perfectly well here with other plugins. > > -- > Tom Chiverton > Helping to enormously incubate exceptional synergistic front-end prospective > materials > > > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and > Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at > Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list > of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with > a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word > "partner" to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with > equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors > Regulation Authority. > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may > be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must > not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor > inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence > or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and > notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wadge 2. wadge - a great > mass > > Had to look it up. :-) Pronounced "wodj" ;) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wadge 2. wadge - a great mass Had to look it up. :-) On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Dominic Watson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... > > Yikes and if you're in the UK, that'd be £187 - £17 above today's > exchange rate; though if the pound continues to plummet then I guess > it'd be a good deal... > > In any case, that's a quite a wadge to fork out for an IDE, even > though as a developer it may be affordable. > > Dominic > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
> hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... Yikes and if you're in the UK, that'd be £187 - £17 above today's exchange rate; though if the pound continues to plummet then I guess it'd be a good deal... In any case, that's a quite a wadge to fork out for an IDE, even though as a developer it may be affordable. Dominic ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Quick note Mark, I know you cleared it up about being confused with which product was being talked about but (as someone else mentioned) IntelliJ does give free licenses to open source projects, so you would probably be able to get it (IntelliJ) for free. That being said I hope Adobe considers the same license for Bolt folks like you that work on big oppen source projects that really help the community deserve the best editor (I'm assuming it will be the best :) ). Adam On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Mark Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stupid question - where did $250 come from? > > (I'd be happy with $250) > > Mark > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's hope Adobe notices this response when the set pricing for > > "Bolt" I had the same response to the price tag. > > > > > > Wil Genovese > > > > One man with courage makes a majority. > > -Andrew Jackson > > > > A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. > > > > On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: > > > >> hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have DW, > >> which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am > >> almost happy with... > >> though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider testing > >> it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by > >> JetBrains for a free edition)... > >> > >> Azadi Saryev > >> Sabai-dee.com > >> http://www.sabai-dee.com/ > >> > >> > >> > >> Kenton Gray wrote: > >>> With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good > >>> time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been > >>> working on a CFML plugin. > >>> > >>> It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. > >>> In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most > >>> amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete > >>> and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with > >>> debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. > >>> > >>> It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and > >>> have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! > >>> > >>> Here is the download link: > >>> http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 > >>> > >>> Here is the blog to watch for updates: > >>> http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ > >>> > >>> Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports > >>> and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop > >>> them a line. > >>> > >>> Kenton > >>> > >>> PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE > >>> around > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
On Wednesday 03 Dec 2008, Barney Boisvert wrote: > A much larger stumbling block for Bolt will be the Eclipse > integration, I think. Eclipse users don't want to have their Eclipse > environment hosed by some plugin (cough...FlexBuilder...cough). What do you mean there ? Builder works perfectly well here with other plugins. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enormously incubate exceptional synergistic front-end prospective materials This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316178 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
$250 is cheap for an commercial IDE. CFEclipse is great and I use it pretty much exclusively, but if a $250 offering can save you 1 minute per day in productivity, it's worth it after only a year at $50/hour. If your time is worth more or your license lasts longer (both quite likely), it only need save you a few handfuls of seconds to be worth it and that's easy to come by with optimized autocomplete alone. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for the best IDE to be freely available for personal use since I do a lot of development outside a working-for-pay arrangement, but CFEclipse adequately fills that niche. A much larger stumbling block for Bolt will be the Eclipse integration, I think. Eclipse users don't want to have their Eclipse environment hosed by some plugin (cough...FlexBuilder...cough). I run duplicate Eclipse environments (one for Flex, one for everything else) for just this reason. If you just want a ColdFusion IDE, it doesn't matter, but if you use the Eclipse platform for CFML (and Java, Groovy, PHP - ick, database, JS, CSS, etc.) development it's a bigger deal. cheers, barneyb On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From here. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp?top > > All I'm hoping for is a lower price than that when Bolt is released. > > Wil Genovese > > One man with courage makes a majority. > -Andrew Jackson > > A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. > > On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: > >> Stupid question - where did $250 come from? >> >> (I'd be happy with $250) >> >> Mark >> >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Let's hope Adobe notices this response when the set pricing for >>> "Bolt" I had the same response to the price tag. >>> >>> >>> Wil Genovese >>> >>> One man with courage makes a majority. >>> -Andrew Jackson >>> >>> A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. >>> >>> On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: >>> hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have DW, which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am almost happy with... though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider testing it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by JetBrains for a free edition)... Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Kenton Gray wrote: > With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good > time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been > working on a CFML plugin. > > It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. > In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most > amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete > and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with > debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. > > It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and > have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! > > Here is the download link: > http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 > > Here is the blog to watch for updates: > http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ > > Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports > and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop > them a line. > > Kenton > > PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE > around > >>> >>> >> >> > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316163 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Ahhh! $250 for IntelliJ. I thought you meant for Bolt. Makes more sense now. Mark On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Azadi Saryev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > check their Licensing & Upgrade page: > http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp > > Azadi Saryev > Sabai-dee.com > http://www.sabai-dee.com/ > > > > Mark Mandel wrote: >> Stupid question - where did $250 come from? >> >> (I'd be happy with $250) >> >> Mark >> >> > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316159 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
check their Licensing & Upgrade page: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Mark Mandel wrote: > Stupid question - where did $250 come from? > > (I'd be happy with $250) > > Mark > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316156 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
From here. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp?top All I'm hoping for is a lower price than that when Bolt is released. Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: > Stupid question - where did $250 come from? > > (I'd be happy with $250) > > Mark > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Let's hope Adobe notices this response when the set pricing for >> "Bolt" I had the same response to the price tag. >> >> >> Wil Genovese >> >> One man with courage makes a majority. >> -Andrew Jackson >> >> A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. >> >> On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: >> >>> hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have >>> DW, >>> which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am >>> almost happy with... >>> though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider >>> testing >>> it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by >>> JetBrains for a free edition)... >>> >>> Azadi Saryev >>> Sabai-dee.com >>> http://www.sabai-dee.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Kenton Gray wrote: With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been working on a CFML plugin. It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! Here is the download link: http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 Here is the blog to watch for updates: http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop them a line. Kenton PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE around >>> >>> >> >> > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316154 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Stupid question - where did $250 come from? (I'd be happy with $250) Mark On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's hope Adobe notices this response when the set pricing for > "Bolt" I had the same response to the price tag. > > > Wil Genovese > > One man with courage makes a majority. > -Andrew Jackson > > A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. > > On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: > >> hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have DW, >> which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am >> almost happy with... >> though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider testing >> it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by >> JetBrains for a free edition)... >> >> Azadi Saryev >> Sabai-dee.com >> http://www.sabai-dee.com/ >> >> >> >> Kenton Gray wrote: >>> With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good >>> time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been >>> working on a CFML plugin. >>> >>> It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. >>> In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most >>> amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete >>> and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with >>> debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. >>> >>> It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and >>> have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! >>> >>> Here is the download link: >>> http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 >>> >>> Here is the blog to watch for updates: >>> http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports >>> and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop >>> them a line. >>> >>> Kenton >>> >>> PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE >>> around >>> >> >> > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316150 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Let's hope Adobe notices this response when the set pricing for "Bolt" I had the same response to the price tag. Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: > hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have DW, > which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am > almost happy with... > though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider testing > it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by > JetBrains for a free edition)... > > Azadi Saryev > Sabai-dee.com > http://www.sabai-dee.com/ > > > > Kenton Gray wrote: >> With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good >> time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been >> working on a CFML plugin. >> >> It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. >> In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most >> amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete >> and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with >> debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. >> >> It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and >> have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! >> >> Here is the download link: >> http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 >> >> Here is the blog to watch for updates: >> http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ >> >> Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports >> and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop >> them a line. >> >> Kenton >> >> PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE >> around >> > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316144 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have DW, which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am almost happy with... though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider testing it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by JetBrains for a free edition)... Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Kenton Gray wrote: > With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good time to let > everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been working on a CFML plugin. > > It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. In my > opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most amazing > Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete and jsdocs > support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with debugging) so you can > do all your Adobe coding from one place. > > It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and have > Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! > > Here is the download link: > http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 > > Here is the blog to watch for updates: > http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ > > Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports and feature > requests, so if you have any features you want, drop them a line. > > Kenton > > PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE around > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316143 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Wow how the hell did I miss this? Thanks for the info Kenton. Adam On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Kenton Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good time to > let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been working on a CFML > plugin. > > It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. In my > opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most amazing > Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete and jsdocs > support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with debugging) so you can > do all your Adobe coding from one place. > > It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and have > Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! > > Here is the download link: > http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 > > Here is the blog to watch for updates: > http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ > > Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports and > feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop them a line. > > Kenton > > PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE around > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316139 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
IntelliJ CFML Plugin
With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been working on a CFML plugin. It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! Here is the download link: http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 Here is the blog to watch for updates: http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop them a line. Kenton PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE around ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316115 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
