Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
I can't imagine it's good for ColdFusion, then again, perhaps it may mean some real advertising and pushing of a great technology. Imagine CF freely bundled with all IIS servers. It could mean a HUGE boom for the CF community. CF.NET would rock. Dave @ Oyova Software http://www.oyova.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338058 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Oh, man, forgot about Lasso. Back in '98 or '99 I had to convert half a dozen sites from Lasso to ColdFusion. Lasso was fine, I guess, except that it was running on a Mac server :) From: andy matthews li...@commadelimited.com Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:01 PM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe Don't forget Lasso. Wasn't that before ASP? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 4:15 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-mi crosoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? If this actually happened, I suspect that the product would be divested or discontinued. But I really doubt that this will happen. The only thing that Adobe has that MS doesn't is the design tools market. There isn't much history of MS buying established competitors to their own products. And speaking of established competitors, during the existence of CF, Microsoft has gone through at least four different competing products: they had a couple of things before ASP (IDC and HTX I think), then there was ASP, then ASP.NET. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337975 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
CF.Net ? -Original Message- From: Jeff Gladnick [mailto:jeff.gladn...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:10 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe I cant see this as positive in any way for coldfusion. I would imagine it would just be a slow death of coldfusion as it's merged into .net. bleh. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337976 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Don't forget Lasso. Wasn't that before ASP? I think so, but it wasn't a Microsoft product. There were thousands of products in that niche before ASP. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337978 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
As Michael D so politely requested, please join this convo in cf-community where it belongs. http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:328866 http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:328866 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337979 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337949 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Nothing probably since the product is ColdFusion. ;) On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.com wrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337950 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
It means that .Net developers will now have a much easier way to connect to things like Exchange, Sharepoint, Excel, and Active Directory. :) Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com Jeff Gladnick wrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337951 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
And Flash + Silverlight = Flashlight. :) Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com Jeff Gladnick wrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337952 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
or the end of BlueDragon as Microsoft will add CFML.NET to the stable :-) On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Eric Cobb cft...@ecartech.com wrote: And Flash + Silverlight = Flashlight. :) Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com Jeff Gladnick wrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337953 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? If this actually happened, I suspect that the product would be divested or discontinued. But I really doubt that this will happen. The only thing that Adobe has that MS doesn't is the design tools market. There isn't much history of MS buying established competitors to their own products. And speaking of established competitors, during the existence of CF, Microsoft has gone through at least four different competing products: they had a couple of things before ASP (IDC and HTX I think), then there was ASP, then ASP.NET. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337955 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Microsoft Photoshop? Investors and the stock market does not make one bit of sense. On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.comwrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337956 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
I cant see this as positive in any way for coldfusion. I would imagine it would just be a slow death of coldfusion as it's merged into .net. bleh. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337957 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
I agree. I don't see this happening. Just sounds like Adobe talking to M$ like they have been about Android and RIM. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: 07 October 2010 22:15 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-mi crosoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? If this actually happened, I suspect that the product would be divested or discontinued. But I really doubt that this will happen. The only thing that Adobe has that MS doesn't is the design tools market. There isn't much history of MS buying established competitors to their own products. And speaking of established competitors, during the existence of CF, Microsoft has gone through at least four different competing products: they had a couple of things before ASP (IDC and HTX I think), then there was ASP, then ASP.NET. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2010/10/07/why-google-is-a-better-partner-for-ado be-than-microsoft/ interesting blog about the talks. I tend to agree. -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 October 2010 22:14 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe Microsoft Photoshop? Investors and the stock market does not make one bit of sense. On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.comwrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-mi crosoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
I cant see this as positive in any way for coldfusion. Microsoft bought FoxPro 8 years ago, and Foxpro is still alive. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337960 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Microsoft bought FoxPro 8 years ago, and Foxpro is still alive. That's not living. That's barely existing. From Wikipedia: In March 2007, Microsoft announced that there will be no VFP 10, thus making VFP9 (released to manufacturing on December 17, 2004) the last commercial VFP release from Microsoft. The support of Version 9 is ongoing with service packs that were released December 8, 2005 and October 11, 2007. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337961 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
More detailed speculation: http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/thinking-through-a-microsoft-adobe-merger/ http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/10/07/microsoft.and.adobe.in.collaborative.talks/ On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.comwrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
That's not living. That's barely existing. May be, but this is more because FoxPro is one generation older (dBase) than other products on the market now than directly because of Microsoft. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337963 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
That's not living. That's barely existing. May be, but this is more because FoxPro is one generation older (dBase) than other products on the market now than directly because of Microsoft. No, this is not true. At the time they acquired FoxPro, it was significantly more advanced in many respects than Access. But they significantly slowed down the release cycle for FoxPro - it took forever for VFP 9. At the same time, they incorporated technology from FoxPro into Access. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337964 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Our company has a lot of legacy FoxPro still running. As I understand it, though, support for Visual FoxPro 9 ended April 2010. It is certainly not a living product, despite the fact that Microsoft did release several versions of Visual FoxPro after they bought the line. On 10/7/2010 5:56 PM, Dave Watts wrote: That's not living. That's barely existing. May be, but this is more because FoxPro is one generation older (dBase) than other products on the market now than directly because of Microsoft. No, this is not true. At the time they acquired FoxPro, it was significantly more advanced in many respects than Access. But they significantly slowed down the release cycle for FoxPro - it took forever for VFP 9. At the same time, they incorporated technology from FoxPro into Access. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337965 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Nope: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-07/reback-says-adobe-purchase-by-microsoft-unlikely-video.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337966 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Please move this thread over to the community or OT list. Interesting though it is, it's not really of a technical nature. (those who want to argue the point with me are welcome to do so off list). Thank you -- Michael Dinowitz Lead Author - Adobe Coldfusion Anthology http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Jeff Gladnick jeff.gladn...@gmail.comwrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-microsoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337967 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
DAYUM! -Original Message- From: Eric Cobb [mailto:cft...@ecartech.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 3:59 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe It means that .Net developers will now have a much easier way to connect to things like Exchange, Sharepoint, Excel, and Active Directory. :) Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com Jeff Gladnick wrote: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-mi crosoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337968 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe
Don't forget Lasso. Wasn't that before ASP? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 4:15 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Microsoft rumored to be buying Adobe http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2010/10/07/adobe-shares-soar-on-rumor-of-mi crosoft-bid/ What's that mean for Coldfusion!? If this actually happened, I suspect that the product would be divested or discontinued. But I really doubt that this will happen. The only thing that Adobe has that MS doesn't is the design tools market. There isn't much history of MS buying established competitors to their own products. And speaking of established competitors, during the existence of CF, Microsoft has gone through at least four different competing products: they had a couple of things before ASP (IDC and HTX I think), then there was ASP, then ASP.NET. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337969 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm