Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
Just curious, Are all the clients in your scenario registered email users of your domain? No - and yeh, email has been the least enjoyable part of the project; all sorts of trouble! Dominic -- Blog it up: http://fusion.dominicwatson.co.uk ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304970 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
Google apps rules, we use it for about a dozen domains and about 25 users and it works like a dream, even for those older staff members who insist on keeping with outlook! I still haven't got around to re-purposing the old linux mail server though! -- Jay ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304971 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: OT - Google Hosted Email (New Question)
OK with all the talk of using Google Hosted Email and such poses a question or so since I do not use it: I have my own domain and it is hosted by a provider in California (Been of great service and very happy with). They use SmarterMail 3.x (not yet upgraded to 4 or the latest 5 yet). Now I use Outlook 2007 and like to keep using it rather than the web interface from SmarterMail. Could I route all mail from my domain into Google and then use Outlook to send/receive mail from Google? Besides the great filtering capability provided by Google, what other benefits would it give me? Trying to determine if it is worth moving all my accounts over? -Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT - Google Hosted Email Google apps rules, we use it for about a dozen domains and about 25 users and it works like a dream, even for those older staff members who insist on keeping with outlook! I still haven't got around to re-purposing the old linux mail server though! -- Jay ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304976 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email (New Question)
there are only 2 reasons i use googles email. *Storage Space* 6.7 GB *Key Words* What I find very annoying with outlook is when client emails me about 3 different contracts, what folder do I put it in? Gmail lets me put it in as many as I want by letting me add multiple Key words or Labels to them. CF-talk always gets labeled *CF-TALK* and Skips the inbox, if the mail has a response from me it also gets a Gold Star. I only wish i could have sub-labels of label groups. On 5/9/08, ColdFusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK with all the talk of using Google Hosted Email and such poses a question or so since I do not use it: I have my own domain and it is hosted by a provider in California (Been of great service and very happy with). They use SmarterMail 3.x (not yet upgraded to 4 or the latest 5 yet). Now I use Outlook 2007 and like to keep using it rather than the web interface from SmarterMail. Could I route all mail from my domain into Google and then use Outlook to send/receive mail from Google? Besides the great filtering capability provided by Google, what other benefits would it give me? Trying to determine if it is worth moving all my accounts over? -Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT - Google Hosted Email Google apps rules, we use it for about a dozen domains and about 25 users and it works like a dream, even for those older staff members who insist on keeping with outlook! I still haven't got around to re-purposing the old linux mail server though! -- Jay ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304980 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email (New Question)
Connect google hosted mail to outlook using IMAP. Then your labels show up as folders. You can then create sub labels/ sub folders. They are also usable from the webclient not just outlook. Paul. On 09/05/2008, at 11:31 PM, Richard Dillman wrote: there are only 2 reasons i use googles email. *Storage Space* 6.7 GB *Key Words* What I find very annoying with outlook is when client emails me about 3 different contracts, what folder do I put it in? Gmail lets me put it in as many as I want by letting me add multiple Key words or Labels to them. CF-talk always gets labeled *CF-TALK* and Skips the inbox, if the mail has a response from me it also gets a Gold Star. I only wish i could have sub-labels of label groups. On 5/9/08, ColdFusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK with all the talk of using Google Hosted Email and such poses a question or so since I do not use it: I have my own domain and it is hosted by a provider in California (Been of great service and very happy with). They use SmarterMail 3.x (not yet upgraded to 4 or the latest 5 yet). Now I use Outlook 2007 and like to keep using it rather than the web interface from SmarterMail. Could I route all mail from my domain into Google and then use Outlook to send/receive mail from Google? Besides the great filtering capability provided by Google, what other benefits would it give me? Trying to determine if it is worth moving all my accounts over? -Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT - Google Hosted Email Google apps rules, we use it for about a dozen domains and about 25 users and it works like a dream, even for those older staff members who insist on keeping with outlook! I still haven't got around to re-purposing the old linux mail server though! -- Jay ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304984 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: OT - Google Hosted Email (New Question)
Yes, I'm doing that right now for sstwebworks.com. You just need to be able to make changes to the DNS records (specifically the MX records) -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) -Original Message- From: ColdFusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT - Google Hosted Email (New Question) OK with all the talk of using Google Hosted Email and such poses a question or so since I do not use it: I have my own domain and it is hosted by a provider in California (Been of great service and very happy with). They use SmarterMail 3.x (not yet upgraded to 4 or the latest 5 yet). Now I use Outlook 2007 and like to keep using it rather than the web interface from SmarterMail. Could I route all mail from my domain into Google and then use Outlook to send/receive mail from Google? Besides the great filtering capability provided by Google, what other benefits would it give me? Trying to determine if it is worth moving all my accounts over? -Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT - Google Hosted Email Google apps rules, we use it for about a dozen domains and about 25 users and it works like a dream, even for those older staff members who insist on keeping with outlook! I still haven't got around to re-purposing the old linux mail server though! -- Jay ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304991 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: OT - Google Hosted Email (New Question)
I am almost positive you can pop3 into another email account and dl the emails to Google. Downside is that the Google mail wouldn't be of the same domain. Really what you want to do is just use Google apps mail for your domain email. I made the switch over to Google apps after the server that my sites were on crashed and the guy couldn't replace the server (small shop). My email was down for a couple of weeks before I put everything on Google. Greg from AHPHosting recommended it instead of using the mail program he had on the VPS (I think it is SmarterMail if I remember correctly). I kick myself in the behind for not doing it sooner. The free account (which I think is better than the for pay version) allows ONLY *grin* 2 gig of space. Now I get a lot of email and I haven't even come close to filling that yet and it has been about 6 months or so since I have deleted old messages. The Google mail server has an excellent spam filter which cuts down a lot of the crap and doesn't apply to your total. The spam filtered mail is saved for 30 days to give you time to spot check to make sure you are not catching good emails. The big benefit is that you mail is not with the same host as your web server. If anything happens to your host, your mail is still fine and with a company like Google, you know that it is backed up. I have had a couple of instances where I lost connectivity, but that was quickly fixed by the Google support staff. Google mail allows you to connect through the web, pop3 or IMAP. Eric /*-Original Message- /*From: ColdFusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:09 AM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: RE: OT - Google Hosted Email (New Question) /* /*OK with all the talk of using Google Hosted Email and such poses a /*question /*or so since I do not use it: /* /*I have my own domain and it is hosted by a provider in California (Been of /*great service and very happy with). /*They use SmarterMail 3.x (not yet upgraded to 4 or the latest 5 yet). /* /*Now I use Outlook 2007 and like to keep using it rather than the web /*interface from SmarterMail. /* /*Could I route all mail from my domain into Google and then use Outlook to /*send/receive mail from Google? /* /*Besides the great filtering capability provided by Google, what other /*benefits would it give me? /* /*Trying to determine if it is worth moving all my accounts over? /* /* /*-Original Message- /*From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:23 AM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: Re: OT - Google Hosted Email /* /*Google apps rules, we use it for about a dozen domains and about 25 /*users and it works like a dream, even for those older staff members /*who insist on keeping with outlook! I still haven't got around to /*re-purposing the old linux mail server though! /* /*-- /*Jay /* /* /* /* ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305033 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
OT - Google Hosted Email
Anyone out there using Google's hosted email? I've set up one account and was going to recommend it to a client but I haven't had enough experience with it to be 100% sure. Cheers. Adrian Lynch http://www.adrianlynch.co.uk/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304834 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
i use it for all my domains. so far nothing but love. -- jonese http://www.jonese.us http://twitter.com/jonese On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out there using Google's hosted email? I've set up one account and was going to recommend it to a client but I haven't had enough experience with it to be 100% sure. Cheers. Adrian Lynch http://www.adrianlynch.co.uk/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304879 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: OT - Google Hosted Email
Anyone out there using Google's hosted email? I've set up one account and was going to recommend it to a client but I haven't had enough experience with it to be 100% sure. I strongly recommend Google Apps for Your Domain. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304898 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
Was one of the best tech decisions we made! Great stuff. J.J. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out there using Google's hosted email? I've set up one account and was going to recommend it to a client but I haven't had enough experience with it to be 100% sure. Cheers. Adrian Lynch http://www.adrianlynch.co.uk/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304905 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
It Rocks. Your going to wonder why you didn't do it sooner. We have been on for over a year and I can barely remember the days of purchasing spam filtering software, trying to keep a web interface up,and worrying about backing up. That doesn't even touch the user side of it (searching and storage mainly) that you are probably already familiar with. The list of pluses is huge. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out there using Google's hosted email? I've set up one account and was going to recommend it to a client but I haven't had enough experience with it to be 100% sure. Cheers. Adrian Lynch http://www.adrianlynch.co.uk/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304954 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
I would recommend Gmail to retrieve your email *not hosted* on Google as well. Period. e.g. I have had the same email address since '99. I am sure it made it on every spammers list there is. I used to get over run with spam... we are talking thousands a day. Even with server side black lists and and spampal on the client, I would get *at least* 100+ spams in my in box daily and thousands more in my spam folder. It took 45 min to over an hour just to download my mail over dial up if I was using spampal (spampal had to ping the black list servers for each email). Now I get one or two spams in my inbox *a month*, if that... and maybe a 100 in the spam folder. All hail the Geek Gods of Google. G On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, David Mineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It Rocks. Your going to wonder why you didn't do it sooner. We have been on for over a year and I can barely remember the days of purchasing spam filtering software, trying to keep a web interface up,and worrying about backing up. That doesn't even touch the user side of it (searching and storage mainly) that you are probably already familiar with. The list of pluses is huge. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone out there using Google's hosted email? I've set up one account and was going to recommend it to a client but I haven't had enough experience with it to be 100% sure. Cheers. Adrian Lynch http://www.adrianlynch.co.uk/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304955 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Gerald Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend Gmail to retrieve your email *not hosted* on Google as well. Period. and why would that be? i've hosted my personal domain's email on google for a year now, and couldn't be happier. zero worry, zero cost, 6 gigs of storage, spam filtering is there any particular reason you're actively recommending against it? -- Evelyn the dog, having undergone further modification pondered the significance of short-person behaviour in pedal depressed, pan-chromatic resonance, and other highly ambient domains. Arf, she said. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304956 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
I think you misinterpreted what I was trying say. Let me try again: I would recommend Gmail to retrieve your email, *even for* accounts *not hosted* on Google as well. I use gmail to get email for accounts that don't use googles mail servers. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Gerald Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend Gmail to retrieve your email *not hosted* on Google as well. Period. and why would that be? i've hosted my personal domain's email on google for a year now, and couldn't be happier. zero worry, zero cost, 6 gigs of storage, spam filtering is there any particular reason you're actively recommending against it? -- Evelyn the dog, having undergone further modification pondered the significance of short-person behaviour in pedal depressed, pan-chromatic resonance, and other highly ambient domains. Arf, she said. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304960 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Gerald Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you misinterpreted what I was trying say. Let me try again: I would recommend Gmail to retrieve your email, *even for* accounts *not hosted* on Google as well. I use gmail to get email for accounts that don't use googles mail servers. Gotcha. yeah, I misinterpreted. I thought you were saying to use gmail, but *not* use google mail for hosted domains (and wondered why, or whether or not you had a bad experience with it). We're on the same page now :) -- Evelyn the dog, having undergone further modification pondered the significance of short-person behaviour in pedal depressed, pan-chromatic resonance, and other highly ambient domains. Arf, she said. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304961 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
Second to fending off hackers (crackers actually), Email was always the next worst part of hosting. Nothing but headaches. I do not miss that *at all*. Google mail is a God Send. G P.S. Arf indeed. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Gerald Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you misinterpreted what I was trying say. Let me try again: I would recommend Gmail to retrieve your email, *even for* accounts *not hosted* on Google as well. I use gmail to get email for accounts that don't use googles mail servers. Gotcha. yeah, I misinterpreted. I thought you were saying to use gmail, but *not* use google mail for hosted domains (and wondered why, or whether or not you had a bad experience with it). We're on the same page now :) -- Evelyn the dog, having undergone further modification pondered the significance of short-person behaviour in pedal depressed, pan-chromatic resonance, and other highly ambient domains. Arf, she said. -- The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. - Albert Einstein ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
I'm wondering if GMail could be my saviour here too. I have a simple mail system where the client can setup mail 'templates' and choose to send that email to a client - macros they define get replaced by name, etc. Would this kind of thing be doable? I.e. can I use a google api to create email bodies, etc? Dominic -- Blog it up: http://fusion.dominicwatson.co.uk ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304963 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT - Google Hosted Email
I'm wondering if GMail could be my saviour here too. I have a simple mail system where the client can setup mail 'templates' and choose to send that email to a client - macros they define get replaced by name, etc. Would this kind of thing be doable? I.e. can I use a google api to create email bodies, etc? Dominic -- Blog it up: http://fusion.dominicwatson.co.uk Dominic, It sounds like we are doing something remarkably similar and it has definitely been the most unpleasant part of my entire project. It would be great to switch everything over to a Gmail domain if it would work. Just curious, Are all the clients in your scenario registered email users of your domain? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304964 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
