Re: Open Source Document Management System

2008-11-05 Thread Nitai @ SixSigns
Shannon

I see your comment as a general comment and not a reply to Razuna.

We decided to use a dual-license model because for some companies a  
open source license does not comply with their internal usage or they  
simply don't want to use open source license for whatever reason.  
Mostly, companies that even use a commercial license will bring back  
their changes to the open source stream, because they want to see it  
supported.

Kind Regards,
Nitai

On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Shannon Peevey wrote:

> I understand these things, (and thanks for clarification on my  
> point). My
> understanding of "copyleft" is that code, and distributed changes to  
> the
> code, should always be available for community-at-large.  Therefore, a
> commercial license which allows some to modify and distribute the code
> without making the source available seems to contradict the spirit of
> "copyleft".  (Though, I do understand that some organizations need  
> to have a
> commercial license for software which they purchase, as well as the  
> monetary
> value of selling commercially licensed versions of software).  I  
> want to
> mention that this was a general commentary, and in no way, should be
> construed as a "knock" on Razuna.  Others who are more qualified have
> already weighed in on its capabilities.

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Re: Open Source Document Management System

2008-11-05 Thread Shannon Peevey
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Peter Boughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >I am always confused by dual-licensed "Free software". I don't
> >understand how you can distribute the same software with two different
> >licenses, and still enforce the letter of the AGPLv3... (Which is used
> >to give the recipient of the code the same rights to distribution as
> >the original creator).
>
> Not quite - the GPL doesn't give the recipient the right to change which
> license the software is distributed under - the recipient can only
> re-release the software under the same license (or a compatible one).
>
> However, the original creator/owner holds copyright for the code they have
> created, and that code may be released by them under any other license(s),
> as they choose, entirely independently of the GPLed code.
>
>
I understand these things, (and thanks for clarification on my point). My
understanding of "copyleft" is that code, and distributed changes to the
code, should always be available for community-at-large.  Therefore, a
commercial license which allows some to modify and distribute the code
without making the source available seems to contradict the spirit of
"copyleft".  (Though, I do understand that some organizations need to have a
commercial license for software which they purchase, as well as the monetary
value of selling commercially licensed versions of software).  I want to
mention that this was a general commentary, and in no way, should be
construed as a "knock" on Razuna.  Others who are more qualified have
already weighed in on its capabilities.

speeves


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Re: Open Source Document Management System

2008-11-05 Thread Peter Boughton
>I am always confused by dual-licensed "Free software". I don't
>understand how you can distribute the same software with two different
>licenses, and still enforce the letter of the AGPLv3... (Which is used
>to give the recipient of the code the same rights to distribution as
>the original creator).

Not quite - the GPL doesn't give the recipient the right to change which 
license the software is distributed under - the recipient can only re-release 
the software under the same license (or a compatible one).

However, the original creator/owner holds copyright for the code they have 
created, and that code may be released by them under any other license(s), as 
they choose, entirely independently of the GPLed code. 

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Re: Open Source Document Management System

2008-11-05 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 05 Nov 2008, Shannon Peevey wrote:
> I am always confused by dual-licensed "Free software". I don't
> understand how you can distribute the same software with two different
> licenses, and still enforce the letter of the AGPLv3... (Which is used
> to give the recipient of the code the same rights to distribution as
> the original creator).

Well, maybe I offer the code under GPLv3, but the company using it has a hang 
up about FOSS, or feels unless they pay for something it's useless.
So I might well issue a commercial license to the same code.

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Re: Open Source Document Management System

2008-11-05 Thread nitai aventaggiato
> Does anyone know where there might be a good document management (web 
> based) system that might even have open source?   Thoughts? 

As Jordan already pointed out (thank you) you should give Razuna 
(http://www.razuna.com) a go.

We mainly refer to it as a Digital Asset Management (DAM), but it also handles 
documents quite well. Meaning it will index a lot of documents for you as well 
and make them findable. To make it a "real document management" it has to 
feature versioning and check-in/check-out capabilities. This will most likely 
be a feature of 1.1.3 (but I cant promise it).

We just released version 1.1.2 yesterday and it features Custom Fields, as such 
you can tag your documents with any Meta-Data you want. Of course, entries are 
indexed and thus findable again.

If you have any questions please let me know (I am not actively monitoring this 
forum so your best thing is to head over to our forums 
http://forums.sixsigns.com or leave a comment at http://www.razuna.com).

Thank you.

Kind Regards,
Nitai 

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Re: Open Source Document Management System

2008-11-04 Thread Shannon Peevey
I am always confused by dual-licensed "Free software". I don't
understand how you can distribute the same software with two different
licenses, and still enforce the letter of the AGPLv3... (Which is used
to give the recipient of the code the same rights to distribution as
the original creator).

Speeves

On 11/4/08, Jordan Michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.razuna.com/
>
> It's a bit more then a simple document management system (It's creators
> refer to it as a "Digital Asset Management System"), but it's
> open-source and runs flawlessly on OpenBD.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Warm regards,
> Jordan Michaels
> Vivio Technologies
> http://www.viviotech.net/
> Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
> Adobe Solution Provider
>
>
> Kim Hoopingarner wrote:
>> Does anyone know where there might be a good document management (web
>> based) system that might even have open source?   Thoughts?
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: Open Source Document Management System

2008-11-04 Thread Jordan Michaels
http://www.razuna.com/

It's a bit more then a simple document management system (It's creators
refer to it as a "Digital Asset Management System"), but it's
open-source and runs flawlessly on OpenBD.

Hope this helps!

Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Adobe Solution Provider


Kim Hoopingarner wrote:
> Does anyone know where there might be a good document management (web based) 
> system that might even have open source?   Thoughts? 
> 
> 

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Open Source Document Management System

2008-11-04 Thread Kim Hoopingarner
Does anyone know where there might be a good document management (web based) 
system that might even have open source?   Thoughts? 

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