RE: Attempts at banking fraud
The one I just got took the cake: subject was You have won a Sony Handicam (This is not Spam). The message purported to being part of the grand opening of a new online AV store - it provided a code to claim your prize.After stripping the URL ID from the link I went to the site: yes, it said, I won.All I had to do was fill out my information. Standard stuff: address, phone number, etc UNTIL.The bottom of the form had a red apology: We're sorry, but our credit merchant is current experiencing difficulties so we cannot accept credit cards at the moment.To claim your prize please enter your debit card information instead. The form actually had a Debit Card Number AND PIN Number entry boxes. What worries me is that the form looked very professional (up until that point) - I'm sure that at least some people have been taken in. Although, in your case, it may be seeded from the truth.Microsoft does offer a very attractive Partner Provider deal (I'm a subscriber).You join up as a Registered Partner for $299 (I got in on a special $100 deal) and they send you quarterly software packages: pretty much all of their software (not for resale but otherwise full editions) and sales/migration material. The software package is called the Action Pack.Here's a link to it: http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/partnermarket/action pack/default.aspx?nav=ln It's a truly great deal, but I would only subscribe via the official Microsoft.com website.You actually get full copies of all current OSes (Windows 2003 all editions, Windows 2000 Advanced Server, XP Pro and Home, etc), Exchange server, Visio, MS Office, SQL Server, MS Project, and tons more. I do know of at least one scam where people gather many of these packs and then sell the software for huge profits on eBay. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Peter Tilbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Attempts at banking fraud It staggers me that there are people in the world who will attempt to rob others by cleverly imitating a bank/credit unions email to attempt to gain access to someones funds. They usually attempt this with cleverly crafted HTML email messages. Microsoft has also fallen victim to this atttempt at validity by the look of a message alone. I've received a few of these lately. Keep in mind it is highly unlikely that your own bank would ever send you something via email that would ever ask you for personal information (they would more than likely have it already). In fact your bank would not even really need to know your email address at all. Whenever I receive these bogus messages, and I have received several, I forward them to the Australia Federal Police in their entirety. You should do the same to your respective law enforcers (eg: FBI). PS. I'm not even sure if it was a valid email but Microsoft are offering $25,000 worth of software for $299 through their Partner program. It looks legitimate - clever - but probably not the real deal. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group - http://www.actcfug.com 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Attempts at banking fraud
Actually, the Microsoft Action Pack Subscription is legit.For $299 you get a whole boatload of software, along with 10 licenses (or 10 CAL's for server products).The catch is that it's only licensed for 12 months.In all, it's a good deal, sometimes made even better...I got mine for $99 after a $200 coupon. Pete - Original Message - From: Peter Tilbrook To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: OT: Attempts at banking fraud It staggers me that there are people in the world who will attempt to rob others by cleverly imitating a bank/credit unions email to attempt to gain access to someones funds. They usually attempt this with cleverly crafted HTML email messages. Microsoft has also fallen victim to this atttempt at validity by the look of a message alone. I've received a few of these lately. Keep in mind it is highly unlikely that your own bank would ever send you something via email that would ever ask you for personal information (they would more than likely have it already). In fact your bank would not even really need to know your email address at all. Whenever I receive these bogus messages, and I have received several, I forward them to the Australia Federal Police in their entirety. You should do the same to your respective law enforcers (eg: FBI). PS. I'm not even sure if it was a valid email but Microsoft are offering $25,000 worth of software for $299 through their Partner program. It looks legitimate - clever - but probably not the real deal. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group - http://www.actcfug.com 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Attempts at banking fraud
Hi Pete, Where did you get the coupon? Thanks, DavidB -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud Actually, the Microsoft Action Pack Subscription is legit.For $299 you get a whole boatload of software, along with 10 licenses (or 10 CAL's for server products).The catch is that it's only licensed for 12 months.In all, it's a good deal, sometimes made even better...I got mine for $99 after a $200 coupon. Pete - Original Message - From: Peter Tilbrook To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: OT: Attempts at banking fraud It staggers me that there are people in the world who will attempt to rob others by cleverly imitating a bank/credit unions email to attempt to gain access to someones funds. They usually attempt this with cleverly crafted HTML email messages. Microsoft has also fallen victim to this atttempt at validity by the look of a message alone. I've received a few of these lately. Keep in mind it is highly unlikely that your own bank would ever send you something via email that would ever ask you for personal information (they would more than likely have it already). In fact your bank would not even really need to know your email address at all. Whenever I receive these bogus messages, and I have received several, I forward them to the Australia Federal Police in their entirety. You should do the same to your respective law enforcers (eg: FBI). PS. I'm not even sure if it was a valid email but Microsoft are offering $25,000 worth of software for $299 through their Partner program. It looks legitimate - clever - but probably not the real deal. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group - http://www.actcfug.com http://www.actcfug.com 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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| | PS. I'm not even sure if it was a valid email but Microsoft are offering | $25,000 worth of software for $299 through their Partner program. It looks | legitimate - clever - but probably not the real deal. | The Microsoft Action Pack subscriptions are indeed legitimate.You can get all the details by a search on the www.microsoft.com web site. http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/PartnerMarket/ActionPack/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Attempts at banking fraud
In Australia the Microsoft Action Pack is available only to registered partners.You cannot legally buy the US $299 deal and use it in Australia. The Action pack is intended to allow the Microsoft Sales Partners to have fully legit copies of all the latest software, in production environments (but not web sites) running their businesses on the latest stuff, in order to be fully conversant with it when they come to talk to potential customers.It was a clever way to make it more worthwhile for partners to get the software legitimately than the common practice prevailing before the action pack was released - namely buy a copy for inventory or for customer use and make dodgy copies before delivering to customers. It's a splendid idea I think, because suddenly, all those dealers, resellers, recommenders had not only legal copies of the products they normally sell, but the other things they wouldn't normally sell too.Enough to run a small business on. (Larger businesses could afford to buy their own copies of software, Microsoft reasons). I think this is a logic that could prove profitable for Macromedia too.I develop web sites but every time a new version of software comes out, I have to pay to buy full copies of everything(Unless I happen to fluke a freebie at a CFUG meeting!!).If MM want us all to be selling and recommending their products,what better way than to make sure we're all using the latest versions of everything? They wouldn't have to do it for free, or even near-free, as Microsoft has proved.But the MS Action Pack gives the equivalent of the entire business product line for A$500 a year. How many of us were reluctant to update to MX2004 products because of the expense, and the fact that we'd only recently bought MX?How are we all supposed to talk confidently about MX2004 if we're only using MX ourselves? My suggestion?Macromedia start having NFR software available to legit dealers/resellers.At the moment (as I understand it) it's only available to partners, who have to pay some thousands of bucks to be partners.Makes it right out of the ballpark of us small shops. I'm only a one-man business. I can't afford to pay thousands of dollars for anything, no matter how desirable. Specially not if it's going to be out of date in a year, as all software will. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2003 12:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud Actually, the Microsoft Action Pack Subscription is legit.For $299 you get a whole boatload of software, along with 10 licenses (or 10 CAL's for server products).The catch is that it's only licensed for 12 months.In all, it's a good deal, sometimes made even better...I got mine for $99 after a $200 coupon. Pete - Original Message - From: Peter Tilbrook To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:39 PM Subject: OT: Attempts at banking fraud It staggers me that there are people in the world who will attempt to rob others by cleverly imitating a bank/credit unions email to attempt to gain access to someones funds. They usually attempt this with cleverly crafted HTML email messages. Microsoft has also fallen victim to this atttempt at validity by the look of a message alone. I've received a few of these lately. Keep in mind it is highly unlikely that your own bank would ever send you something via email that would ever ask you for personal information (they would more than likely have it already). In fact your bank would not even really need to know your email address at all. Whenever I receive these bogus messages, and I have received several, I forward them to the Australia Federal Police in their entirety. You should do the same to your respective law enforcers (eg: FBI). PS. I'm not even sure if it was a valid email but Microsoft are offering $25,000 worth of software for $299 through their Partner program. It looks legitimate - clever - but probably not the real deal. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Attempts at banking fraud
The US Action pack also requires you to be a partner, as I am.It is free. All that required was an exchange of email with the MS regional manager, and a telephone call. The main difference between the MS program and the MM reseller programs is that MM requires a substantial up front payment to become a reseller. I have been able to fully utilize the promotional materials and presentations accompanying the action pack from MS to assist in training customers, and it has really enhanced my sales of MS server products.You will receive enough CD-ROM based presentations to satisfy most any presentation need. Another benefit is being able to offer MS software through License Online, where your customer can purchase MS products, (as well as several other products) at attractive discounts, all very legitimate.You are also given access to their mass mail (spam?) marketing list to promote your own services as well as the availability of MS products through you. To me the most exciting new product from MS is actually two products, the first being a fully licensed copy of the new CRM product, which is awesome in itself, but even more exciting is the conferencing software included in the new Office product, that puts MM's Flashcom to shame. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud | In Australia the Microsoft Action Pack is available only to registered | partners.You cannot legally buy the US $299 deal and use it in Australia. | The Action pack is intended to allow the Microsoft Sales Partners to have | fully legit copies of all the latest software, in production environments | (but not web sites) running their businesses on the latest stuff, in order | to be fully conversant with it when they come to talk to potential | customers.It was a clever way to make it more worthwhile for partners to | get the software legitimately than the common practice prevailing before the | action pack was released - namely buy a copy for inventory or for customer | use and make dodgy copies before delivering to customers. | | | | It's a splendid idea I think, because suddenly, all those dealers, | resellers, recommenders had not only legal copies of the products they | normally sell, but the other things they wouldn't normally sell too.Enough | to run a small business on. (Larger businesses could afford to buy their own | copies of software, Microsoft reasons). | | | | I think this is a logic that could prove profitable for Macromedia too.I | develop web sites but every time a new version of software comes out, I have | to pay to buy full copies of everything(Unless I happen to fluke a freebie | at a CFUG meeting!!).If MM want us all to be selling and recommending | their products,what better way than to make sure we're all using the | latest versions of everything? They wouldn't have to do it for free, or | even near-free, as Microsoft has proved.But the MS Action Pack gives the | equivalent of the entire business product line for A$500 a year. | | | | How many of us were reluctant to update to MX2004 products because of the | expense, and the fact that we'd only recently bought MX?How are we all | supposed to talk confidently about MX2004 if we're only using MX ourselves? | | | | | My suggestion?Macromedia start having NFR software available to legit | dealers/resellers.At the moment (as I understand it) it's only available | to partners, who have to pay some thousands of bucks to be partners.Makes | it right out of the ballpark of us small shops. I'm only a one-man business. | I can't afford to pay thousands of dollars for anything, no matter how | desirable. Specially not if it's going to be out of date in a year, as | all software will. | | | | | | | | Cheers, | | Michael Kear | | Windsor, NSW, Australia | | AFP Webworks. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -Original Message- | From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2003 12:27 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud | | | | Actually, the Microsoft Action Pack Subscription is legit.For $299 you get | a whole boatload of software, along with 10 licenses (or 10 CAL's for server | products).The catch is that it's only licensed for 12 months.In all, | it's a good deal, sometimes made even better...I got mine for $99 after a | $200 coupon. | | Pete |- Original Message - |From: Peter Tilbrook |To: CF-Talk |Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:39 PM |Subject: OT: Attempts at banking fraud | |It staggers me
Re: Attempts at banking fraud
You can try finding out who owns the domain (if it is a domain).If so, forward the email and contact info to the police department where you the person lives and let them look into it.They'll pass it to the feds if appropriate. I just went through this last week.I was called the next day by the detective asking me for a little bit of personal info and was told he had already spoken over the phone with the guy was bringing him in for questioning. I realize most people that do this sort of thing aren't dumb to do it using a domain registered in their own name, but in this case, it appears the guy was. - Original Message - From: Jim Davis To: CF-Talk Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:31 AM Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud The one I just got took the cake: subject was You have won a Sony Handicam (This is not Spam). The message purported to being part of the grand opening of a new online AV store - it provided a code to claim your prize.After stripping the URL ID from the link I went to the site: yes, it said, I won.All I had to do was fill out my information. Standard stuff: address, phone number, etc UNTIL.The bottom of the form had a red apology: We're sorry, but our credit merchant is current experiencing difficulties so we cannot accept credit cards at the moment.To claim your prize please enter your debit card information instead. The form actually had a Debit Card Number AND PIN Number entry boxes. What worries me is that the form looked very professional (up until that point) - I'm sure that at least some people have been taken in. Although, in your case, it may be seeded from the truth.Microsoft does offer a very attractive Partner Provider deal (I'm a subscriber).You join up as a Registered Partner for $299 (I got in on a special $100 deal) and they send you quarterly software packages: pretty much all of their software (not for resale but otherwise full editions) and sales/migration material. The software package is called the Action Pack.Here's a link to it: http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/partnermarket/action pack/default.aspx?nav=ln It's a truly great deal, but I would only subscribe via the official Microsoft.com website.You actually get full copies of all current OSes (Windows 2003 all editions, Windows 2000 Advanced Server, XP Pro and Home, etc), Exchange server, Visio, MS Office, SQL Server, MS Project, and tons more. I do know of at least one scam where people gather many of these packs and then sell the software for huge profits on eBay. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Peter Tilbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Attempts at banking fraud It staggers me that there are people in the world who will attempt to rob others by cleverly imitating a bank/credit unions email to attempt to gain access to someones funds. They usually attempt this with cleverly crafted HTML email messages. Microsoft has also fallen victim to this atttempt at validity by the look of a message alone. I've received a few of these lately. Keep in mind it is highly unlikely that your own bank would ever send you something via email that would ever ask you for personal information (they would more than likely have it already). In fact your bank would not even really need to know your email address at all. Whenever I receive these bogus messages, and I have received several, I forward them to the Australia Federal Police in their entirety. You should do the same to your respective law enforcers (eg: FBI). PS. I'm not even sure if it was a valid email but Microsoft are offering $25,000 worth of software for $299 through their Partner program. It looks legitimate - clever - but probably not the real deal. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group - http://www.actcfug.com 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Attempts at banking fraud
The only question I have is how to resell under the Action Pack subscription. I am about to close a deal that would involve 3 Windows 2003 servers, SQL Server, and 40 copies of XP. Going through the materials, I still do not know who to call. M -Original Message- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud The US Action pack also requires you to be a partner, as I am.It is free. All that required was an exchange of email with the MS regional manager, and a telephone call. The main difference between the MS program and the MM reseller programs is that MM requires a substantial up front payment to become a reseller. I have been able to fully utilize the promotional materials and presentations accompanying the action pack from MS to assist in training customers, and it has really enhanced my sales of MS server products.You will receive enough CD-ROM based presentations to satisfy most any presentation need. Another benefit is being able to offer MS software through License Online, where your customer can purchase MS products, (as well as several other products) at attractive discounts, all very legitimate.You are also given access to their mass mail (spam?) marketing list to promote your own services as well as the availability of MS products through you. To me the most exciting new product from MS is actually two products, the first being a fully licensed copy of the new CRM product, which is awesome in itself, but even more exciting is the conferencing software included in the new Office product, that puts MM's Flashcom to shame. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud | In Australia the Microsoft Action Pack is available only to registered | partners.You cannot legally buy the US $299 deal and use it in Australia. | The Action pack is intended to allow the Microsoft Sales Partners to have | fully legit copies of all the latest software, in production environments | (but not web sites) running their businesses on the latest stuff, in order | to be fully conversant with it when they come to talk to potential | customers.It was a clever way to make it more worthwhile for partners to | get the software legitimately than the common practice prevailing before the | action pack was released - namely buy a copy for inventory or for customer | use and make dodgy copies before delivering to customers. | | | | It's a splendid idea I think, because suddenly, all those dealers, | resellers, recommenders had not only legal copies of the products they | normally sell, but the other things they wouldn't normally sell too. Enough | to run a small business on. (Larger businesses could afford to buy their own | copies of software, Microsoft reasons). | | | | I think this is a logic that could prove profitable for Macromedia too.I | develop web sites but every time a new version of software comes out, I have | to pay to buy full copies of everything(Unless I happen to fluke a freebie | at a CFUG meeting!!).If MM want us all to be selling and recommending | their products,what better way than to make sure we're all using the | latest versions of everything? They wouldn't have to do it for free, or | even near-free, as Microsoft has proved.But the MS Action Pack gives the | equivalent of the entire business product line for A$500 a year. | | | | How many of us were reluctant to update to MX2004 products because of the | expense, and the fact that we'd only recently bought MX?How are we all | supposed to talk confidently about MX2004 if we're only using MX ourselves? | | | | | My suggestion?Macromedia start having NFR software available to legit | dealers/resellers.At the moment (as I understand it) it's only available | to partners, who have to pay some thousands of bucks to be partners. Makes | it right out of the ballpark of us small shops. I'm only a one-man business. | I can't afford to pay thousands of dollars for anything, no matter how | desirable. Specially not if it's going to be out of date in a year, as | all software will. | | | | | | | | Cheers, | | Michael Kear | | Windsor, NSW, Australia | | AFP Webworks. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -Original Message- | From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2003 12:27 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud | | | | Actually, the Microsoft Action Pack Subscription is legit.For $299 you get | a whole boatload
RE: Attempts at banking fraud
You can't. As far as I know ActionPack is licensed for internal use only. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud The only question I have is how to resell under the Action Pack subscription. I am about to close a deal that would involve 3 Windows 2003 servers, SQL Server, and 40 copies of XP. Going through the materials, I still do not know who to call. M -Original Message- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud The US Action pack also requires you to be a partner, as I am.It is free. All that required was an exchange of email with the MS regional manager, and a telephone call. The main difference between the MS program and the MM reseller programs is that MM requires a substantial up front payment to become a reseller. I have been able to fully utilize the promotional materials and presentations accompanying the action pack from MS to assist in training customers, and it has really enhanced my sales of MS server products.You will receive enough CD-ROM based presentations to satisfy most any presentation need. Another benefit is being able to offer MS software through License Online, where your customer can purchase MS products, (as well as several other products) at attractive discounts, all very legitimate.You are also given access to their mass mail (spam?) marketing list to promote your own services as well as the availability of MS products through you. To me the most exciting new product from MS is actually two products, the first being a fully licensed copy of the new CRM product, which is awesome in itself, but even more exciting is the conferencing software included in the new Office product, that puts MM's Flashcom to shame. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud | In Australia the Microsoft Action Pack is available only to registered | partners.You cannot legally buy the US $299 deal and use it in Australia. | The Action pack is intended to allow the Microsoft Sales Partners to have | fully legit copies of all the latest software, in production environments | (but not web sites) running their businesses on the latest stuff, in order | to be fully conversant with it when they come to talk to potential | customers.It was a clever way to make it more worthwhile for partners to | get the software legitimately than the common practice prevailing before the | action pack was released - namely buy a copy for inventory or for customer | use and make dodgy copies before delivering to customers. | | | | It's a splendid idea I think, because suddenly, all those dealers, | resellers, recommenders had not only legal copies of the products they | normally sell, but the other things they wouldn't normally sell too. Enough | to run a small business on. (Larger businesses could afford to buy their own | copies of software, Microsoft reasons). | | | | I think this is a logic that could prove profitable for Macromedia too.I | develop web sites but every time a new version of software comes out, I have | to pay to buy full copies of everything(Unless I happen to fluke a freebie | at a CFUG meeting!!).If MM want us all to be selling and recommending | their products,what better way than to make sure we're all using the | latest versions of everything? They wouldn't have to do it for free, or | even near-free, as Microsoft has proved.But the MS Action Pack gives the | equivalent of the entire business product line for A$500 a year. | | | | How many of us were reluctant to update to MX2004 products because of the | expense, and the fact that we'd only recently bought MX?How are we all | supposed to talk confidently about MX2004 if we're only using MX ourselves? | | | | | My suggestion?Macromedia start having NFR software available to legit | dealers/resellers.At the moment (as I understand it) it's only available | to partners, who have to pay some thousands of bucks to be partners. Makes | it right out of the ballpark of us small shops. I'm only a one-man business. | I can't afford to pay thousands of dollars for anything, no matter how | desirable. Specially not if it's going to be out of date in a year, as | all software will. | | | | | | | | Cheers
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Send them to (or you can do it for them) http://www.licenseonline.com/qq2/LicenseOnlineStorefront/Lobby.asp You will be requested to enter your Partner ID numberIf you don't have one, apply for one == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Haggerty, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud | The only question I have is how to resell under the Action Pack | subscription. I am about to close a deal that would involve 3 Windows | 2003 servers, SQL Server, and 40 copies of XP. Going through the | materials, I still do not know who to call. | | M | | -Original Message- | From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:50 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Attempts at banking fraud | | | The US Action pack also requires you to be a partner, as I am.It is | free. All | that required was an exchange of email with the MS regional manager, and | a | telephone call. | | The main difference between the MS program and the MM reseller programs | is that | MM requires a substantial up front payment to become a reseller. | | I have been able to fully utilize the promotional materials and | presentations | accompanying the action pack from MS to assist in training customers, | and it has | really enhanced my sales of MS server products.You will receive enough | CD-ROM | based presentations to satisfy most any presentation need. Another | benefit is | being able to offer MS software through License Online, where your | customer can | purchase MS products, (as well as several other products) at attractive | discounts, all very legitimate.You are also given access to their mass | mail | (spam?) marketing list to promote your own services as well as the | availability | of MS products through you. | To me the most exciting new product from MS is actually two products, | the first | being a fully licensed copy of the new CRM product, which is awesome in | itself, | but even more exciting is the conferencing software included in the new | Office | product, that puts MM's Flashcom to shame. | | == | Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! | For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com | Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. | Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: | http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf | == | If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! | | - Original Message - | From: Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:00 AM | Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud | | | In Australia the Microsoft Action Pack is available only to registered | | partners.You cannot legally buy the US $299 deal and use it in | Australia. | | The Action pack is intended to allow the Microsoft Sales Partners to | have | | fully legit copies of all the latest software, in production | environments | | (but not web sites) running their businesses on the latest stuff, in | order | | to be fully conversant with it when they come to talk to potential | | customers.It was a clever way to make it more worthwhile for | partners to | | get the software legitimately than the common practice prevailing | before the | | action pack was released - namely buy a copy for inventory or for | customer | | use and make dodgy copies before delivering to customers. | | | | | | | | It's a splendid idea I think, because suddenly, all those dealers, | | resellers, recommenders had not only legal copies of the products they | | normally sell, but the other things they wouldn't normally sell too. | Enough | | to run a small business on. (Larger businesses could afford to buy | their own | | copies of software, Microsoft reasons). | | | | | | | | I think this is a logic that could prove profitable for Macromedia | too.I | | develop web sites but every time a new version of software comes out, | I have | | to pay to buy full copies of everything(Unless I happen to fluke a | freebie | | at a CFUG meeting!!).If MM want us all to be selling and | recommending | | their products,what better way than to make sure we're all using the | | latest versions of everything? They wouldn't have to do it for | free, or | | even near-free, as Microsoft has proved.But the MS Action Pack gives | the | | equivalent of the entire business product line for A$500 a year. | | | | | | | | How many of us were reluctant to update to MX2004 products because of | the | | expense, and the fact that we'd only recently
RE: Attempts at banking fraud
Action pack is for MS Sales Partners to use in their own business.It's to give the partners and their staff real life exposure to the products, to have them using all the latest stuff internally.To sell MS products you have to have a relationship with a distributor, and each distributor makes their own decisions as to who to do business with.Microsoft will give you a list of distributors if you contact the sales partner office where you are. I talked about Action pack originally because I think it's an excellent concept and I think Macromedia would do well to consider a similar concept for their own network.I'm not sure it's a great thing to be talking about Microsoft sales policies on a MM list is it?This is supposed to be a ColdFusion technical list. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2003 7:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Attempts at banking fraud You can't. As far as I know ActionPack is licensed for internal use only. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
