RE: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
I wrote a java class that uses Blowfish encryption and use the class in my cold fusion pages via cfobject or cfscript tags. -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Hi All, I hope someone has a potential solution.I'm working with a client.We need to pass an encrypted string to one of their vendors.The vendor specified the encryption method (Blowfish) along with the key (aka passphrase) and an initialization vector (an 8 character string). After some research I came upon 3 options for Blowfish encryption in ColdFusion: CFX_Enigma http://www.cftagstore.com/index.cfm/page/viewtag/tagId/57 .This was our first choice, and they went ahead and bought it.It only accepts Java Long Integer for the initialization vector.The tag spits up on our string.I e-mailed the developer, but haven't heard anything back. cfX_crypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#view=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=353425 81page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1003421catid =0extID=1000552. I couldn't get CF to find the tag at all.Not sure why, I've never had a problem installing custom tags before. cf_encrypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#loc=en_usview=sn131extID=1000552viewName=ColdFusion%20Extensionavm=1 .This one we decided against because there is no way to get support.(The web-site link on the page is dead). So, my first question would be:Are there any other CF-based options? The second question would be, where do I look next?Are there any good resources out there for this type of thing? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaron Skye, Guitarist / Songwriter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
So, my first question would be:Are there any other CF-based options? The second question would be, where do I look next?Are there any good resources out there for this type of thing? I've written a Rijndael CFX (C++/Delphi) tag in the past for my own use. I could probably use an adapted version of that to write a blowfish tag in a few hours if you're interested. I do have a Blowfish component installed in my development environment so it should be pretty straight forward. Write to me off list if you want to take it further. Yours Paul Vernon http://www.web-architect.co.uk http://www.web-architect.co.uk/ t: +44 (0)844 779 9797 m: +44 (0)7887 952591 f: +44 (0)844 779 9797 e: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this e-mail and any attachment is intended only for the named addressee(s). If you are not the named addressee(s), please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose, copy or distribute the contents to any other person other than the intended addressee(s). [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
CFX_Enigma http://www.cftagstore.com/index.cfm/page/viewtag/tagId/57 .This was our first choice, and they went ahead and bought it.It only accepts Java Long Integer for the initialization vector.The tag spits up on our string.I e-mailed the developer, but haven't heard anything back. Since a Java Long Integer is (IIRC) an 8-byte int, you might try converting your initialization string to binary and handing it off that way. Just a thought. --Ben Doom [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
How about just writing your own Blowfish algorithm implementation? I know there are quite a few sites out there explaining in detail the ins and outs of this particular encryption method (its popular). TK -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Hi All, I hope someone has a potential solution.I'm working with a client.We need to pass an encrypted string to one of their vendors.The vendor specified the encryption method (Blowfish) along with the key (aka passphrase) and an initialization vector (an 8 character string). After some research I came upon 3 options for Blowfish encryption in ColdFusion: CFX_Enigma http://www.cftagstore.com/index.cfm/page/viewtag/tagId/57 ..This was our first choice, and they went ahead and bought it.It only accepts Java Long Integer for the initialization vector.The tag spits up on our string.I e-mailed the developer, but haven't heard anything back. cfX_crypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#view=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=353425 81page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1003421catid =0extID=1000552. I couldn't get CF to find the tag at all.Not sure why, I've never had a problem installing custom tags before. cf_encrypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#loc=en_usview=sn131extID=1000552viewName=ColdFusion%20Extensionavm=1 ..This one we decided against because there is no way to get support.(The web-site link on the page is dead). So, my first question would be:Are there any other CF-based options? The second question would be, where do I look next?Are there any good resources out there for this type of thing? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaron Skye, Guitarist / Songwriter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
Unless you've got experience writing encryption code, I'd probably avoid rolling your own.This is one of those re-inventing the wheel scenarios where if your wheel isn't perfect, it won't roll properly. --Ben Doom Tom Kitta wrote: How about just writing your own Blowfish algorithm implementation? I know there are quite a few sites out there explaining in detail the ins and outs of this particular encryption method (its popular). TK -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Hi All, I hope someone has a potential solution.I'm working with a client.We need to pass an encrypted string to one of their vendors.The vendor specified the encryption method (Blowfish) along with the key (aka passphrase) and an initialization vector (an 8 character string). After some research I came upon 3 options for Blowfish encryption in ColdFusion: CFX_Enigma http://www.cftagstore.com/index.cfm/page/viewtag/tagId/57 ..This was our first choice, and they went ahead and bought it.It only accepts Java Long Integer for the initialization vector.The tag spits up on our string.I e-mailed the developer, but haven't heard anything back. cfX_crypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#view=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=353425 81page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1003421catid =0extID=1000552. I couldn't get CF to find the tag at all.Not sure why, I've never had a problem installing custom tags before. cf_encrypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#loc=en_usview=sn131extID=1000552viewName=ColdFusion%20Extensionavm=1 ..This one we decided against because there is no way to get support.(The web-site link on the page is dead). So, my first question would be:Are there any other CF-based options? The second question would be, where do I look next?Are there any good resources out there for this type of thing? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaron Skye, Guitarist / Songwriter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
You are right, someone without experience will most likely make a mistake that will effect security of implementation. However, by the same token no outside tag purchased or obtained from outside source can be marked secure unless it went through rigorous code reading and testing. For this you need even more experience in cryptography than for writing your own implementation of blowfish. The bottom line is, you need to be an expert to make a claim that something appears to be secure. Also, if by some chance NP=P you better have a disclaimer ready :) In most cases you have to settle for imaginary security, mainly because proving that you have some security is just to darn expensive. TK -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Unless you've got experience writing encryption code, I'd probably avoid rolling your own.This is one of those re-inventing the wheel scenarios where if your wheel isn't perfect, it won't roll properly. --Ben Doom Tom Kitta wrote: How about just writing your own Blowfish algorithm implementation? I know there are quite a few sites out there explaining in detail the ins and outs of this particular encryption method (its popular). TK -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Hi All, I hope someone has a potential solution.I'm working with a client. We need to pass an encrypted string to one of their vendors.The vendor specified the encryption method (Blowfish) along with the key (aka passphrase) and an initialization vector (an 8 character string). After some research I came upon 3 options for Blowfish encryption in ColdFusion: CFX_Enigma http://www.cftagstore.com/index.cfm/page/viewtag/tagId/57 ..This was our first choice, and they went ahead and bought it.It only accepts Java Long Integer for the initialization vector.The tag spits up on our string.I e-mailed the developer, but haven't heard anything back. cfX_crypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#view=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=353425 81page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1003421catid =0extID=1000552. I couldn't get CF to find the tag at all.Not sure why, I've never had a problem installing custom tags before. cf_encrypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#loc=en_usview=sn131extID=1000552viewName=ColdFusion%20Extensionavm=1 ..This one we decided against because there is no way to get support.(The web-site link on the page is dead). So, my first question would be:Are there any other CF-based options? The second question would be, where do I look next?Are there any good resources out there for this type of thing? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaron Skye, Guitarist / Songwriter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
I agree mostly. However, I would argue that a reasonably well known implentation of an algorythm is less likely to be screwed up than, say, one I wrote from scratch.Having implemented Blowfish in C/C++, I know how easy it is to screw up.:-) In any case, if someone is looking for help with encryption libraries, the chances are that this is one of their first excursions into encryption, and they're probably not up to hammering out their own custom solution. --Ben Tom Kitta wrote: You are right, someone without experience will most likely make a mistake that will effect security of implementation. However, by the same token no outside tag purchased or obtained from outside source can be marked secure unless it went through rigorous code reading and testing. For this you need even more experience in cryptography than for writing your own implementation of blowfish. The bottom line is, you need to be an expert to make a claim that something appears to be secure. Also, if by some chance NP=P you better have a disclaimer ready :) In most cases you have to settle for imaginary security, mainly because proving that you have some security is just to darn expensive. TK -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Unless you've got experience writing encryption code, I'd probably avoid rolling your own.This is one of those re-inventing the wheel scenarios where if your wheel isn't perfect, it won't roll properly. --Ben Doom Tom Kitta wrote: How about just writing your own Blowfish algorithm implementation? I know there are quite a few sites out there explaining in detail the ins and outs of this particular encryption method (its popular). TK -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Hi All, I hope someone has a potential solution.I'm working with a client. We need to pass an encrypted string to one of their vendors.The vendor specified the encryption method (Blowfish) along with the key (aka passphrase) and an initialization vector (an 8 character string). After some research I came upon 3 options for Blowfish encryption in ColdFusion: CFX_Enigma http://www.cftagstore.com/index.cfm/page/viewtag/tagId/57 ..This was our first choice, and they went ahead and bought it.It only accepts Java Long Integer for the initialization vector.The tag spits up on our string.I e-mailed the developer, but haven't heard anything back. cfX_crypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#view=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=353425 81page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1003421catid =0extID=1000552. I couldn't get CF to find the tag at all.Not sure why, I've never had a problem installing custom tags before. cf_encrypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#loc=en_usview=sn131extID=1000552viewName=ColdFusion%20Extensionavm=1 ..This one we decided against because there is no way to get support.(The web-site link on the page is dead). So, my first question would be:Are there any other CF-based options? The second question would be, where do I look next?Are there any good resources out there for this type of thing? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaron Skye, Guitarist / Songwriter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
The original poster didn't (I think) mention the version, but BlowFish is a standard part of the JCE (Java Cryptology extensions): if you're on MX is only makes sense to use it directly from there I would think. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Unless you've got experience writing encryption code, I'd probably avoid rolling your own.This is one of those re-inventing the wheel scenarios where if your wheel isn't perfect, it won't roll properly. --Ben Doom Tom Kitta wrote: How about just writing your own Blowfish algorithm implementation? I know there are quite a few sites out there explaining in detail the ins and outs of this particular encryption method (its popular). TK -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Hi All, I hope someone has a potential solution.I'm working with a client.We need to pass an encrypted string to one of their vendors.The vendor specified the encryption method (Blowfish) along with the key (aka passphrase) and an initialization vector (an 8 character string). After some research I came upon 3 options for Blowfish encryption in ColdFusion: CFX_Enigma http://www.cftagstore.com/index.cfm/page/viewtag/tagId/57 ..This was our first choice, and they went ahead and bought it. It only accepts Java Long Integer for the initialization vector.The tag spits up on our string.I e-mailed the developer, but haven't heard anything back. cfX_crypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=1 0005 52#view=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=35 3425 81page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1003421c atid =0extID=1000552. I couldn't get CF to find the tag at all.Not sure why, I've never had a problem installing custom tags before. cf_encrypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=1 0005 52#loc=en_usview=sn131extID=1000552viewName=ColdFusion%20Extensionav m=1 ..This one we decided against because there is no way to get support.(The web-site link on the page is dead). So, my first question would be:Are there any other CF-based options? The second question would be, where do I look next?Are there any good resources out there for this type of thing? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaron Skye, Guitarist / Songwriter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion
I agree mostly. However, I would argue that a reasonably well known implentation of an algorythm is less likely to be screwed up than, say, one I wrote from scratch.Having implemented Blowfish in C/C++, I know how easy it is to screw up.:-) [Tom Kitta] I guess odds are in favor of going with well known implementation, then again, one must keep in mind my previous post. In any case, if someone is looking for help with encryption libraries, the chances are that this is one of their first excursions into encryption, and they're probably not up to hammering out their own custom solution. [Tom Kitta] I agree. --Ben Tom Kitta wrote: You are right, someone without experience will most likely make a mistake that will effect security of implementation. However, by the same token no outside tag purchased or obtained from outside source can be marked secure unless it went through rigorous code reading and testing. For this you need even more experience in cryptography than for writing your own implementation of blowfish. The bottom line is, you need to be an expert to make a claim that something appears to be secure. Also, if by some chance NP=P you better have a disclaimer ready :) In most cases you have to settle for imaginary security, mainly because proving that you have some security is just to darn expensive. TK -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Unless you've got experience writing encryption code, I'd probably avoid rolling your own.This is one of those re-inventing the wheel scenarios where if your wheel isn't perfect, it won't roll properly. --Ben Doom Tom Kitta wrote: How about just writing your own Blowfish algorithm implementation? I know there are quite a few sites out there explaining in detail the ins and outs of this particular encryption method (its popular). TK -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Blowfish Encryption in ColdFusion Hi All, I hope someone has a potential solution.I'm working with a client. We need to pass an encrypted string to one of their vendors.The vendor specified the encryption method (Blowfish) along with the key (aka passphrase) and an initialization vector (an 8 character string). After some research I came upon 3 options for Blowfish encryption in ColdFusion: CFX_Enigma http://www.cftagstore.com/index.cfm/page/viewtag/tagId/57 ..This was our first choice, and they went ahead and bought it. It only accepts Java Long Integer for the initialization vector.The tag spits up on our string.I e-mailed the developer, but haven't heard anything back. cfX_crypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#view=sn106viewName=Exchange%20Search%20Detailsloc=en_usauthorid=353425 81page=0scrollPos=0subcatid=0snid=sn106itemnumber=0extid=1003421catid =0extID=1000552. I couldn't get CF to find the tag at all.Not sure why, I've never had a problem installing custom tags before. cf_encrypt from the developer exchange: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?view=sn131extID=10005 52#loc=en_usview=sn131extID=1000552viewName=ColdFusion%20Extensionavm=1 ..This one we decided against because there is no way to get support.(The web-site link on the page is dead). So, my first question would be:Are there any other CF-based options? The second question would be, where do I look next?Are there any good resources out there for this type of thing? -- Jeffry Houser, Web Developer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaron Skye, Guitarist / Songwriter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AIM: Reboog711| Phone: 1-203-379-0773 -- My Books: http://www.instantcoldfusion.com Recording Music: http://www.fcfstudios.com Original Energetic Acoustic Rock: http://www.farcryfly.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Blowfish Encryption w/ ColdFusion?
Did a quick search on google: http://www.on-idle.com/ look under o-iCore framework (whole site is in Flash so I can't link directly to it - that's what I call 'rich' media) :) jp On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, Jon wrote: JB I'm looking for a custom tag or component of some type that will let me JB utilize blowfish encryption in my project. I found the CFX_ENCRYPT tag at JB http://devex.macromedia.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA347373-2830-11D4 JB -AA9700508B94F380method=Full but there is nowhere to download the tag, and JB emails to the author bounce back. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Blowfish Encryption w/ ColdFusion?
I have issues using a tag that is compiled to encrypt. Are you afraid that tag can send information to whomever? Neil - Original Message - From: Jim Priest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: Re: Blowfish Encryption w/ ColdFusion? Did a quick search on google: http://www.on-idle.com/ look under o-iCore framework (whole site is in Flash so I can't link directly to it - that's what I call 'rich' media) :) jp On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, Jon wrote: JB I'm looking for a custom tag or component of some type that will let me JB utilize blowfish encryption in my project. I found the CFX_ENCRYPT tag at JB http://devex.macromedia.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA347373-2830-11D4 JB -AA9700508B94F380method=Full but there is nowhere to download the tag, and JB emails to the author bounce back. __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Blowfish Encryption w/ ColdFusion?
Grrr... the site is down. If anybody else knows of Blowfish encryption for CF... let me know please. COM objects will work too. -Jon -Original Message- From: Jim Priest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Blowfish Encryption w/ ColdFusion? Did a quick search on google: http://www.on-idle.com/ look under o-iCore framework (whole site is in Flash so I can't link directly to it - that's what I call 'rich' media) :) jp On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, Jon wrote: JB I'm looking for a custom tag or component of some type that will let me JB utilize blowfish encryption in my project. I found the CFX_ENCRYPT tag at JB http://devex.macromedia.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA347373-2830-11D4 JB -AA9700508B94F380method=Full but there is nowhere to download the tag, and JB emails to the author bounce back. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists