RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Ben Forta

Actually, ColdFusion has been free for educational use for a long time now. 
https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/

And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use:
https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:jor...@viviotech.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:09 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)


I was at a CFUnited a couple years ago and Adobe was talking about a new 
plan they had started that offered Adobe products for free to 
educational institutions. I haven't heard much beyond that but I doubt 
it would take too much more then a phone call to them if an Educational 
Institution would be interested in teaching about Adobe products.

I've been teaching a class in CFML at my local CC for many years (5?) 
now. I've been meaning to post the curriculum online for quite some 
time, but haven't done it yet.

I start teaching again in just over a week. So maybe now is a good time. =)

Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Railo Community Distributions


Roger Austin wrote:
  Mary Jo Sminkey mary...@cfwebstore.com wrote: 
 Having said that, I really am thrilled to hear that they are giving it
for free for educational use. That certainly is a big step in the right
direction and that along with educational use of the server really shows
that they are starting to see that bringing in more developers is really
critical for the future of ColdFusion. 
 
  Most of the schools I know about are teaching Java. Sounds to me 
 like an uphill battle, but it is in Adobe's interest and long overdue.
 I would like to hear more about how Adobe plans to market to education 
 institutions. Is the ColdFusion Server actually going to be free to 
 education systems? I had not heard that.
 
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Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Jordan Michaels

Perfect! Thanks Ben. =D

Warm regards,
Jordan Michaels
Vivio Technologies
http://www.viviotech.net/
Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
Railo Community Distributions


Ben Forta wrote:
 Actually, ColdFusion has been free for educational use for a long time now. 
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/
 
 And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use:
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/
 
 --- Ben
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:jor...@viviotech.net] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 3:09 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
 
 
 I was at a CFUnited a couple years ago and Adobe was talking about a new 
 plan they had started that offered Adobe products for free to 
 educational institutions. I haven't heard much beyond that but I doubt 
 it would take too much more then a phone call to them if an Educational 
 Institution would be interested in teaching about Adobe products.
 
 I've been teaching a class in CFML at my local CC for many years (5?) 
 now. I've been meaning to post the curriculum online for quite some 
 time, but haven't done it yet.
 
 I start teaching again in just over a week. So maybe now is a good time. =)
 
 Warm regards,
 Jordan Michaels
 Vivio Technologies
 http://www.viviotech.net/
 Open BlueDragon Steering Committee
 Railo Community Distributions
 
 
 Roger Austin wrote:
  Mary Jo Sminkey mary...@cfwebstore.com wrote: 
 Having said that, I really am thrilled to hear that they are giving it
 for free for educational use. That certainly is a big step in the right
 direction and that along with educational use of the server really shows
 that they are starting to see that bringing in more developers is really
 critical for the future of ColdFusion. 
  Most of the schools I know about are teaching Java. Sounds to me 
 like an uphill battle, but it is in Adobe's interest and long overdue.
 I would like to hear more about how Adobe plans to market to education 
 institutions. Is the ColdFusion Server actually going to be free to 
 education systems? I had not heard that.

 --
 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/roger-austin/8/a4/60
 http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek
 http://www.misshunt.com/ Home of the Clean/Dirty Magnet
 http://www.ncdevcon.com/ TACFUG 2010 Conference in North Carolina



 
 
 
 

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RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread brad

To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a
CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom and for the
students.  It does not mean that any higher education institution can
use Adobe ColdFusion to power their public school site for free.

As a note, it took some time, but Adobe _does_ provide curriculum for
teaching ColdFusion 8 in the classroom.
http://www.adobe.com/education/instruction/teach/cfcurriculum.html

~Brad


 Original Message 
Subject: RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
From: Ben Forta b...@forta.com
Date: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:12 pm
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


Actually, ColdFusion has been free for educational use for a long time
now. 
https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/

And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use:
https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/

--- Ben



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Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Raymond Camden

But there are good academic prices though:

http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM,  b...@bradwood.com wrote:

 To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a
 CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom and for the
 students.  It does not mean that any higher education institution can
 use Adobe ColdFusion to power their public school site for free.

 As a note, it took some time, but Adobe _does_ provide curriculum for
 teaching ColdFusion 8 in the classroom.
 http://www.adobe.com/education/instruction/teach/cfcurriculum.html

 ~Brad


  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
 From: Ben Forta b...@forta.com
 Date: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:12 pm
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


 Actually, ColdFusion has been free for educational use for a long time
 now.
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/

 And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use:
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/

 --- Ben



 

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Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Judah McAuley

CF Builder isn't on that list. An oversight? Or does CF Builder not
have academic pricing available? I'm guessing it just hasn't made it
up there yet as the Flex Builder version they list is still version 3.

Judah

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 But there are good academic prices though:

 http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html


 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM,  b...@bradwood.com wrote:

 To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a
 CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom and for the
 students.  It does not mean that any higher education institution can
 use Adobe ColdFusion to power their public school site for free.

 As a note, it took some time, but Adobe _does_ provide curriculum for
 teaching ColdFusion 8 in the classroom.
 http://www.adobe.com/education/instruction/teach/cfcurriculum.html

 ~Brad


  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
 From: Ben Forta b...@forta.com
 Date: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:12 pm
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


 Actually, ColdFusion has been free for educational use for a long time
 now.
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/

 And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use:
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/

 --- Ben





 

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Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Raymond Camden

I have seen a price for the academic version, but I don't want to
quote it here. Let me bring in that person to see if he can confirm
it.


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:

 CF Builder isn't on that list. An oversight? Or does CF Builder not
 have academic pricing available? I'm guessing it just hasn't made it
 up there yet as the Flex Builder version they list is still version 3.

 Judah

 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 But there are good academic prices though:

 http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html


 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM,  b...@bradwood.com wrote:

 To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a
 CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom and for the
 students.  It does not mean that any higher education institution can
 use Adobe ColdFusion to power their public school site for free.

 As a note, it took some time, but Adobe _does_ provide curriculum for
 teaching ColdFusion 8 in the classroom.
 http://www.adobe.com/education/instruction/teach/cfcurriculum.html

 ~Brad


  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
 From: Ben Forta b...@forta.com
 Date: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:12 pm
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


 Actually, ColdFusion has been free for educational use for a long time
 now.
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/

 And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use:
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/

 --- Ben







 

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Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Raymond Camden

The price is 199. See the comment from Terry on this blog post:

http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have seen a price for the academic version, but I don't want to
 quote it here. Let me bring in that person to see if he can confirm
 it.


 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:

 CF Builder isn't on that list. An oversight? Or does CF Builder not
 have academic pricing available? I'm guessing it just hasn't made it
 up there yet as the Flex Builder version they list is still version 3.

 Judah

 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 But there are good academic prices though:

 http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html


 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM,  b...@bradwood.com wrote:

 To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a
 CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom and for the
 students.  It does not mean that any higher education institution can
 use Adobe ColdFusion to power their public school site for free.

 As a note, it took some time, but Adobe _does_ provide curriculum for
 teaching ColdFusion 8 in the classroom.
 http://www.adobe.com/education/instruction/teach/cfcurriculum.html

 ~Brad


  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
 From: Ben Forta b...@forta.com
 Date: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:12 pm
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


 Actually, ColdFusion has been free for educational use for a long time
 now.
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/

 And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use:
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/

 --- Ben







 

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Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Judah McAuley

Interesting that Flex Builder 3 Standard is free for Academic
licensing on that page but it seems the CF Builder won't be. Still, I
think it is great that there is academic pricing on the products. It
sure helped me out back in college.

Thanks,
Judah

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 The price is 199. See the comment from Terry on this blog post:

 http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education


 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have seen a price for the academic version, but I don't want to
 quote it here. Let me bring in that person to see if he can confirm
 it.


 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:

 CF Builder isn't on that list. An oversight? Or does CF Builder not
 have academic pricing available? I'm guessing it just hasn't made it
 up there yet as the Flex Builder version they list is still version 3.

 Judah

 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 But there are good academic prices though:

 http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/education_pricing.html


 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:44 PM,  b...@bradwood.com wrote:

 To be clear, educational use in my understanding means you can teach a
 CFML class using the server and IDE in the classroom and for the
 students.  It does not mean that any higher education institution can
 use Adobe ColdFusion to power their public school site for free.

 As a note, it took some time, but Adobe _does_ provide curriculum for
 teaching ColdFusion 8 in the classroom.
 http://www.adobe.com/education/instruction/teach/cfcurriculum.html

 ~Brad


  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)
 From: Ben Forta b...@forta.com
 Date: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:12 pm
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


 Actually, ColdFusion has been free for educational use for a long time
 now.
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/coldfusion/

 And ColdFusion Builder is now also free for educational use:
 https://freeriatools.adobe.com/cfbuilder/

 --- Ben









 

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Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread Casey Dougall

Casey Dougall
Über Website Solutions
(518) 633-1621
Saratoga Springs, NY
http://uberwebsitesolutions.com/


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:


 The price is 199. See the comment from Terry on this blog post:


 http://www.terrenceryan.com/blog/post.cfm/coldfusion-builder-and-flash-builder-free-for-education




Well at least they leave you with a way to cheat their system... I could
just have my Father purchase it for me he is staff @ k-12 public school.
That fits in the description, and it's not like he's going to be missing out
on using it lol

Eligibility for Education Product
Adobe Education products are for purchase by primary or secondary
schoolchildren, full- or part-time students and full- or part time faculty
and staff employed by an accredited Educational establishment.

Restrictions on use of Education Product
You may purchase only one license of any Adobe Education product per
academic year.

Submission of Academic ID
All purchasers on Adobe's education store will be required to submit proof
of academic eligibility prior to shipment of order.


I'm still not sold on this thing yet... But I'm going to give it a solid run
here over next 58 days remaining!

On a side-note, you could do the same deal with Dream Weaver for $199. At
least I would have Ctr-Shift-U for uploading files, I still can't find out
how to make a keyboard shortcut for it in Builder.


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Re: CF Education (was: ColdFusion Builder Released!)

2010-03-23 Thread denstar

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Casey Dougall wrote:
...
 On a side-note, you could do the same deal with Dream Weaver for $199. At
 least I would have Ctr-Shift-U for uploading files, I still can't find out
 how to make a keyboard shortcut for it in Builder.

Check the Aptana prefs, as I just saw a conflict for the command in
another post.  :)

:den

-- 
You cannot step into the same river twice.
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