Re: CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 18 Dec 2007, Dave Merrill wrote:
 As I understand it, cflocation sends a redirect to the browser, navigating
 it to a new page, potentially including url parameters. Is there any way to
 do a similar thing, but emulating a form, so passed parameters can be kept
 out of the url?

Store them in the session, or as cookies.

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RE: CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Dave Merrill
Well yes, you could use those other mechanisms to hand off the data, or push
it into a db table, but that's not really what I'm trying to think about. 

Is there a form equivalent to the http mechanism used by cflocation, where
the server side generates info that gets passed to a new page? 

Semi-relevant: cfhttp can submit a form with specified data to a specified
url, but the whole thing happens on the server, without the browser
relocating anywhere. What I'm looking for is just like that, but navigating
the browser to that submitted pg.

Dave Merrill  

 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Chiverton
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:17 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFLOCATION, but with a form
 
 On Tuesday 18 Dec 2007, Dave Merrill wrote:
  As I understand it, cflocation sends a redirect to the browser, 
  navigating it to a new page, potentially including url 
 parameters. Is 
  there any way to do a similar thing, but emulating a form, 
 so passed 
  parameters can be kept out of the url?
 
 Store them in the session, or as cookies.
 
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Re: CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Todd
Without javascript involved or using GetPageContext().Forward() ( read:
http://www.bennadel.com/blog/382-Is-ColdFusion-s-GetPageContext-Forward-Method-Worth-Using-.htm),
then I don't think you're going to find what you're looking for.

On Dec 18, 2007 2:48 PM, Dave Merrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well yes, you could use those other mechanisms to hand off the data, or
 push
 it into a db table, but that's not really what I'm trying to think about.

 Is there a form equivalent to the http mechanism used by cflocation, where
 the server side generates info that gets passed to a new page?

 Semi-relevant: cfhttp can submit a form with specified data to a specified
 url, but the whole thing happens on the server, without the browser
 relocating anywhere. What I'm looking for is just like that, but
 navigating
 the browser to that submitted pg.

 Dave Merrill



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RE: CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Dave Watts
 Is there a form equivalent to the http mechanism used by 
 cflocation, where the server side generates info that gets 
 passed to a new page?

No, there isn't.

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Re: CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Ian Skinner
Semi-relevant: cfhttp can submit a form with specified data to a specified
url, but the whole thing happens on the server, without the browser
relocating anywhere. What I'm looking for is just like that, but navigating
the browser to that submitted pg.

Dave Merrill  

I am not seeing how this mechanism would work.  You want the server to build a 
request for the client so that the client ends up somewhere else by submitting 
a form post?  This sounds like a mixing of the server/client - request/response 
schema.

cflocation... generates a response to the client request.  This is a response 
(HTTP status 301 IIRC) that the client recognizes.  Most browsers then handle 
this response by sending a new request to the suggested location.  But of 
course they do not have to do this.

There are no responses that I know of that suggests the browser to make a new 
form post request.  I have done something like this in the ancient past (10 
years ago) by building an HTML form with a JavaScript auto-submit that is sent 
to the browser.  Of course this may not be looked on too friendly in todays 
environment and would be easily defeated.

Bottom line: NO I know of no way to do this and it does not make sense to me 
from a client/server perspective.


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RE: CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Dave Merrill
Ian, that's exactly what I was looking for, a server response that asks the
browser to submit a form, the form analog of what cflocation does. It
doesn't surprise me that no such thing exists.

Dave Merrill  

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Skinner 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFLOCATION, but with a form
 
 Semi-relevant: cfhttp can submit a form with specified data 
 to a specified url, but the whole thing happens on the 
 server, without the browser relocating anywhere. What I'm 
 looking for is just like that, but navigating the browser to 
 that submitted pg.
 
 Dave Merrill  
 
 I am not seeing how this mechanism would work.  You want the 
 server to build a request for the client so that the client 
 ends up somewhere else by submitting a form post?  This 
 sounds like a mixing of the server/client - request/response schema.
 
 cflocation... generates a response to the client request.  
 This is a response (HTTP status 301 IIRC) that the client 
 recognizes.  Most browsers then handle this response by 
 sending a new request to the suggested location.  But of 
 course they do not have to do this.
 
 There are no responses that I know of that suggests the 
 browser to make a new form post request.  I have done 
 something like this in the ancient past (10 years ago) by 
 building an HTML form with a JavaScript auto-submit that is 
 sent to the browser.  Of course this may not be looked on too 
 friendly in todays environment and would be easily defeated.
 
 Bottom line: NO I know of no way to do this and it does not 
 make sense to me from a client/server perspective.
 
 
 

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