Re: ColdFusion License and Builder
Adobe modified the EULA again for CF9 to allow Standard and Enterprise to installed as "Production Software" on one server, as "Disaster Recovery Software" (or as you called it a 'dark' server) on a different single server, and as "Development Software" for "internal development, testing, and staging" on an unspecified number of additional servers. Carl On 3/10/2011 6:56 AM, Jason Fisher wrote: > Dev and Hot Spare are 2 different things. You can always install full > Enterprise on any server in Dev mode for free, and that has a 2 IP limit. > Hot spare is a licensing change (came in 8.0.1, iirc) that allows a 'dark' > server to have a full installation re-using your production license, but > those 2 servers (production and hot spare) cannot both be running at the > same time. This allows for true failover setups without doubling license > costs, on Adobe's assumption that you are not really going to run both. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342912 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion License and Builder
Eric, You are correct on that. I posted the relevant parts of the EULA in a previous email. Steve -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:39 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion License and Builder I also remember that starting with 9 (or it could have been 8) that you can use your server license on development and testing servers. Please correct me if I am wrong on that. It may have been a special deal as well). Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342902 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion License and Builder
I also remember that starting with 9 (or it could have been 8) that you can use your server license on development and testing servers. Please correct me if I am wrong on that. It may have been a special deal as well). Eric -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 08:42 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion License and Builder Steve, there was a special promotion to get a cfbuilder and flash builder with each purchase, I do not know if that promotion is still active, if you cannot find it on the Adobe site then I guess not. All editions of CF can be used for development completely FREE, they simply have an IP address connection limit. I believe the hot spare option is true, although if you are using Virtual Machines on the same server, then you can install it as many times as you like on the same physical server, and if in the Cloud (unknown which server you are using for each virtual machine), you get 10 installations. Russ On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:33 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) < sd1...@att.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have a short turn around on this so hopefully someone can help. I > have searched the Adobe website, but I didn't find the appropriate documents. > > > > As I understand it if you purchase ColdFusion Enterprise edition, you > get to use it on 2 machines (Production, Development/Hot Spare), and > that you get one or more builder licenses with the purchase. We are > trying to do our budget for software right now and I need to have the > documents that state this. Does anyone have the URLs for the documents > that state this? Or, can you tell me if I misunderstood the above? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve Durette > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342901 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion License and Builder
I found what I needed for the development server info in the EULA. Thanks though. I also found the info about CF Builder with ColdFusion. You had to purchase before Jan 1, 2011. If we had we would have gotten 3 complimentary copies with every purchase of CF 9 Enterprise. http://forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2010/10/7/Buy-ColdFusion-9-Get-Free-Copi es-Of-ColdFusion-Builder Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:57 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion License and Builder On 3/10/2011 6:47 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) wrote: > I swear that I saw somewhere (I thought on this list but couldn't find > it) that the licensing for CF9 was a change for what I had said before > about the dev/hot spare, and it didn't have the ip restrictions. Yes, the EULA for CF9 has language that allows one to use the same license for a production server on a staging/cold backup/development environments. I don't know about the web site, but you should be able to find it in the EULA, and an internet search should turn up a couple of blogs that highlight the changes in the EULA. The free developer license (aka no license) that has long existed has a two IP restriction. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342891 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion License and Builder
On 3/10/2011 6:47 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) wrote: > I swear that I saw somewhere (I thought on this list but couldn't find > it) that the licensing for CF9 was a change for what I had said before > about the dev/hot spare, and it didn't have the ip restrictions. Yes, the EULA for CF9 has language that allows one to use the same license for a production server on a staging/cold backup/development environments. I don't know about the web site, but you should be able to find it in the EULA, and an internet search should turn up a couple of blogs that highlight the changes in the EULA. The free developer license (aka no license) that has long existed has a two IP restriction. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342888 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion License and Builder
Dev and Hot Spare are 2 different things. You can always install full Enterprise on any server in Dev mode for free, and that has a 2 IP limit. Hot spare is a licensing change (came in 8.0.1, iirc) that allows a 'dark' server to have a full installation re-using your production license, but those 2 servers (production and hot spare) cannot both be running at the same time. This allows for true failover setups without doubling license costs, on Adobe's assumption that you are not really going to run both. From: "DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:46 AM To: "cf-talk" Subject: RE: ColdFusion License and Builder I swear that I saw somewhere (I thought on this list but couldn't find it) that the licensing for CF9 was a change for what I had said before about the dev/hot spare, and it didn't have the ip restrictions. I thought that Adam had put both of the items out on this list, but I was looking for the actual in writing info. Thanks, Steve ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342887 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion License and Builder
I found the EULA for ColdFusion. Here are the appropriate sections: 3.1.3 If Licensee purchases one or more Production Software licenses, then Adobe also grants Licensee the right to install and use the Software as Development Software for internal development, testing and staging. 3.2 Development Software License. This Section 3.2 applies only if Licensee has obtained either a valid developer edition of the Software or one or more separate Production Software licenses (see Section 3.1.3). Adobe grants Licensee a license to install and use the Software as Development Software on one Server. Licensee must separately obtain the right to install or use the Software as Developer Software on more than one Server. In addition to the other terms contained herein, Licensee's license to the Development Software is limited to use in Licensee's technical environment strictly for testing and development purposes and not for production purposes. Licensee may (a) install the Development Software on Servers connected to Licensee's Internal Network provided that the total number of Computers used to operate the Development Software does not exceed the licensed number of Servers, and (b) permit Authorized Users to use the Development Software in accordance with this Agreement. Licensee shall not (i) use the Development Software for any application deployment in a live or stand-by production environment, in each case, including, without limitation, in any environment accessed by application end-users including but not limited to servers, workstations, kiosks, and mobile computers, (ii) access the Development Software from more than a single IP address at any given time, or (c) use the Development Software to deploy applications that are accessed by end users. NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY, THE DEVELOPMENT SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED TO LICENSEE BY ADOBE ON AN AS IS BASIS, AND ADOBE DISCLAIMS ANY WARRANTY OR LIABILITY OBLIGATIONS TO LICENSEE OF ANY KIND. Now if I could only find the stuff about free builder licenses with the purchase of CF. Steve -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:42 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion License and Builder Steve, there was a special promotion to get a cfbuilder and flash builder with each purchase, I do not know if that promotion is still active, if you cannot find it on the Adobe site then I guess not. All editions of CF can be used for development completely FREE, they simply have an IP address connection limit. I believe the hot spare option is true, although if you are using Virtual Machines on the same server, then you can install it as many times as you like on the same physical server, and if in the Cloud (unknown which server you are using for each virtual machine), you get 10 installations. Russ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342886 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: ColdFusion License and Builder
I swear that I saw somewhere (I thought on this list but couldn't find it) that the licensing for CF9 was a change for what I had said before about the dev/hot spare, and it didn't have the ip restrictions. I thought that Adam had put both of the items out on this list, but I was looking for the actual in writing info. Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:42 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion License and Builder Steve, there was a special promotion to get a cfbuilder and flash builder with each purchase, I do not know if that promotion is still active, if you cannot find it on the Adobe site then I guess not. All editions of CF can be used for development completely FREE, they simply have an IP address connection limit. I believe the hot spare option is true, although if you are using Virtual Machines on the same server, then you can install it as many times as you like on the same physical server, and if in the Cloud (unknown which server you are using for each virtual machine), you get 10 installations. Russ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342884 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion License and Builder
Steve, there was a special promotion to get a cfbuilder and flash builder with each purchase, I do not know if that promotion is still active, if you cannot find it on the Adobe site then I guess not. All editions of CF can be used for development completely FREE, they simply have an IP address connection limit. I believe the hot spare option is true, although if you are using Virtual Machines on the same server, then you can install it as many times as you like on the same physical server, and if in the Cloud (unknown which server you are using for each virtual machine), you get 10 installations. Russ On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:33 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) < sd1...@att.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have a short turn around on this so hopefully someone can help. I have > searched the Adobe website, but I didn't find the appropriate documents. > > > > As I understand it if you purchase ColdFusion Enterprise edition, you > get to use it on 2 machines (Production, Development/Hot Spare), and > that you get one or more builder licenses with the purchase. We are > trying to do our budget for software right now and I need to have the > documents that state this. Does anyone have the URLs for the documents > that state this? Or, can you tell me if I misunderstood the above? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve Durette > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342883 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm