RE: Mach-II client variables

2004-12-28 Thread Matthew Small
I have realized that I am having a problem with client variables, but I
don't know why.  I get this message when I try to set a client variable:

Message:
The requested scope client has not been enabled. 

Details:
Before client variables can be used, the client state management system must
be enabled using the CFAPPLICATION tag.

However, I do have the clientmanagement=yes attribute set in the
CFAPPLICATION tag.  What am I doing wrong? Is there anything I should be
checking on the server?

 
Matthew Small
Web Developer
American City Business Journals
704-973-1045
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 8:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mach-II  client variables

Question for the Mach-II people on this list -
I have a dropdown box that appears on every page, in its own form on
each page of my small application.  I'd like the most recently selected item
on this dropdown box to be selected whenever I move to a new page view. I
can set a variable that holds the last value selected whenever the dropdown
is changed, but when I move to a view that does not pass the dropdown box
into the form scope, I lose the most recently selected value and it moves to
the default value on the next view.  
I tried placing the MRU value into both session and client
variables, and enabling client and session variables in the CFApplication
tag, but I just got an error.  Also, the most logical place for me to put an
assignment for this variable is in a CFC, but I see that Mr. Corfield does
not recommend doing this:

It's not that CFCs cannot access scope variables, just that they
should not in general (since it breaks encapsulation). The general
approach is to create a CFC whose sole job is to 'wrap' the scope
access so as to hide it from the rest of the app.

http://lists.topica.com/lists/mach-ii-coldfusion/read/message.html?mid=81031
3532sort=dstart=2193

So where/how can I create a variable that persists this information?

Thank you,

 
Matthew Small
Web Developer
American City Business Journals
704-973-1045
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: Mach-II client variables

2004-12-28 Thread Tangorre, Michael
 From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Before client variables can be used, the client state 
 management system must be enabled using the CFAPPLICATION tag.

You need to set the location for storing the client vars..
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-pa3.htm#wp10
97308

You need to set the clientStorage attribute in the cfapplication tag.

HTH,

Mike

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RE: Mach-II client variables

2004-12-28 Thread Matthew Small
Thanks, but I've already tried that and it didn't do anything for me.  Here
is the present content of my CFAPPLICATION tag:  

cfapplication name=mrktPromoTool sessionmanagement=yes
clientmanagement=yes clientStorage = cookie setClientCookies=yes/


I've also had the clientStorage and setClientCookies attributes removes and
that does not help.  I'm using CFMX 6.1 if that's of any use.

Here is the offending line of code:
cfparam name=client.currentMarket default=0

What am I doing wrong?

 
Matthew Small
Web Developer
American City Business Journals
704-973-1045
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mach-II  client variables

 From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Before client variables can be used, the client state 
 management system must be enabled using the CFAPPLICATION tag.

You need to set the location for storing the client vars..
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-pa3.htm#wp10
97308

You need to set the clientStorage attribute in the cfapplication tag.

HTH,

Mike



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RE: Mach-II client variables

2004-12-28 Thread Dave Watts
 I tried placing the MRU value into both session and client
 variables, and enabling client and session variables in the
 CFApplication tag, but I just got an error.  

As Mike Tangorre mentioned, if you want to use Client variables you will
need to specify where Client variables will be stored. You can either do
this using the CLIENTSTORAGE attribute of the CFAPPLICATION tag, or you can
specify a default storage location within the CF Administrator.

However, I would generally recommend that you not use both Client and
Session variables. Usually, I think you're better off just using one or the
other, depending on the needs of your application. For most relatively
simple applications, Session variables are your best bet. I'm
oversimplifying a bit here, of course. So, what happened when you tried to
use Session variables?

Remember that they also need to be enabled within the CF Administrator and
within your CFAPPLICATION tag using the SESSIONMANAGEMENT attribute.

 Also, the most logical place for me to put an assignment for this
 variable is in a CFC, but I see that Mr. Corfield does not recommend 
 doing this:

 It's not that CFCs cannot access scope variables, just that they
 should not in general (since it breaks encapsulation). The general
 approach is to create a CFC whose sole job is to 'wrap' the scope
 access so as to hide it from the rest of the app.

 ...
 
 So where/how can I create a variable that persists this information?

If you're using the Client scope, I suspect you'll get a little less value
out of the idea of encapsulating access to it within a CFC, since the Client
scope itself isn't stored in memory beyond a single page request, but rather
is refetched for each page request from whatever storage location you
specified. If you're using the Session scope, I would wholeheartedly endorse
Mr. Corfield's recommendation.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444


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Re: Mach-II client variables

2004-12-28 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:14:25 -0500, Matthew Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, but I've already tried that and it didn't do anything for me.  Here
 is the present content of my CFAPPLICATION tag:
 
 cfapplication name=mrktPromoTool sessionmanagement=yes
 clientmanagement=yes clientStorage = cookie setClientCookies=yes/
 
 I've also had the clientStorage and setClientCookies attributes removes and
 that does not help.  I'm using CFMX 6.1 if that's of any use.
 
 Here is the offending line of code:
 cfparam name=client.currentMarket default=0
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 

To my knowledge, there's no way of explicitly disabling client
variables (i.e., through a CFMX Administrator setting or some such).
Where is this cfapplication declaration located? Are you sure that you
don't have an Application.cfm that gets executed before this code that
might have another cfapplication directive in it?

Also, I would not use cookies for clientStorage due to security
considerations (the data is stored in clear text on the user's
machine) -- it would be preferable to use your database to store the
client variables. However, that being said, one thing at a time. Have
you checked for any possible conflicting cfapplication directive in an
Application.cfm file that's being executed?

Regards,
Dave.

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