RE: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
There most definitely is a server component which provides a ton of support functionality (web services support, Java object invocation, etc. etc). -- Tom Jordahl Macromedia -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) > So it looks like Flex is a JSP application 1st, and an ASP.NET > 2nd...but there's not any real mention of CFMX in the presentation. > Hmmm... >From my understanding, having sat through the keynote and one other Flex presentation, Flex is all just client-side code, which can interoperate with CFMX, webservices, local Java objects, and whatever else you have laying around, more or less. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, at 05:37 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > From my understanding, having sat through the keynote and one other > Flex > presentation, Flex is all just client-side code, which can > interoperate with > CFMX, webservices, local Java objects, and whatever else you have > laying > around, more or less. This is a good summary. Flex is a "presentation server." You can think of Flex as a rich version of HTML with a huge amount of functionality and flexibility. Instead of generating an interface using HTML and ColdFusion, JSP, ASP, PHP, etc., you use MXML to generate Flash, then "wire" that interface to web services, which can be implemented in any language. It's a wild paradigm. Christian [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
> So it looks like Flex is a JSP application 1st, and an ASP.NET > 2nd...but there's not any real mention of CFMX in the presentation. > Hmmm... >From my understanding, having sat through the keynote and one other Flex presentation, Flex is all just client-side code, which can interoperate with CFMX, webservices, local Java objects, and whatever else you have laying around, more or less. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
That was a good post. One thing, however, struck me as really odd. Third paragraph, last sentence, talking about building an event app... "a full, professional product, the needs to be extremely high performance (think Dreamweaver or Flash)." I think he must be using some super-secret never-released version of Dreamweaver if he sees it as being "extremely high performance". :( Ken Mike Brunt wrote: > There is a very good blog entry pointed out by Sean Corfield from David Mendels of Macromedia. It explains what Flex is and what the aims are. It compares Flex to the aims of MS's Longhorn. We will see or have seen the "MS's Flash Killer-Sparkles BS" this article is a good loin-girder to that line. ColdFusion is mentioned there and IMHO there is a great future in Flex and CF particularly for CF-ites who did not also want to become Flash-Timeline-Actionscript experts. > > http://weblogs.asp.net/jezell/posts/38319.aspx [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RE: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
There is a very good blog entry pointed out by Sean Corfield from David Mendels of Macromedia. It explains what Flex is and what the aims are. It compares Flex to the aims of MS's Longhorn. We will see or have seen the "MS's Flash Killer-Sparkles BS" this article is a good loin-girder to that line. ColdFusion is mentioned there and IMHO there is a great future in Flex and CF particularly for CF-ites who did not also want to become Flash-Timeline-Actionscript experts. http://weblogs.asp.net/jezell/posts/38319.aspx Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Original Message --- So it looks like Flex is a JSP application 1st, and an ASP.NET 2nd...but there's not any real mention of CFMX in the presentation. Hmmm... Tyler _ From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) Ben Forta just blogged the launch of Macromedia Flex (previously Royale). Verbatim - "Flex is designed to leverage existing and standards based back-ends, and ColdFusion developers will find that they can use Flex to build sophisticated n-tier applications (with ColdFusion providing the back-end processing, and Flex generating the client-side code)." There's a Breeze preso here http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/productinfo/brz_overview/ Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Webapper Services LLC Web Site http://www.webapper.com Blog http://www.webapper.net Webapper _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
It looks like Flex is to .swf as ColdFusion is to .HTML and the the new product Brady is the equivalent of ColdFusion Studio. Dreamweaver, the be all to all has inherited even more responsibility. Dwayne Cole, MS in MIS, MBA Florida A&M University Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 850-591-0212 "It can truly be said that nothing happens until there is vision. But it is equally true that a vision with no underlying sense of purpose, no calling, is just a good idea - all "sound and fury, signifying nothing." The Fifth Discipline - Peter Senge -- Original Message -- From: "Tyler Silcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:43:52 -0500 >So it looks like Flex is a JSP application 1st, and an ASP.NET 2nd...but >there's not any real mention of CFMX in the presentation. Hmmm... > >Tyler > > _ > >From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:30 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) > > >Ben Forta just blogged the launch of Macromedia Flex (previously Royale). >Verbatim - "Flex is designed to leverage existing and standards based >back-ends, and ColdFusion developers will find that they can use Flex to >build sophisticated n-tier applications (with ColdFusion providing the >back-end processing, and Flex generating the client-side code)." >There's a Breeze preso here >http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/productinfo/brz_overview/ > >Kind Regards - Mike Brunt >Webapper Services LLC >Web Site http://www.webapper.com >Blog http://www.webapper.net > >Webapper > > > _ > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
So it looks like Flex is a JSP application 1st, and an ASP.NET 2nd...but there's not any real mention of CFMX in the presentation. Hmmm... Tyler _ From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) Ben Forta just blogged the launch of Macromedia Flex (previously Royale). Verbatim - "Flex is designed to leverage existing and standards based back-ends, and ColdFusion developers will find that they can use Flex to build sophisticated n-tier applications (with ColdFusion providing the back-end processing, and Flex generating the client-side code)." There's a Breeze preso here http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/productinfo/brz_overview/ Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Webapper Services LLC Web Site http://www.webapper.com Blog http://www.webapper.net Webapper _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
That would be pretty neat though if they named something "Macromedia Marlon" Marlon John Beynon wrote: > The dudes name in the prior post perhaps ;-) > > Jb. > > -Original Message- > From: David Keevil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17 November 2003 17:44 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re:Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) > > Marlon.. ??? > Please tell us Outsiders what that is. > > >It does look cool! I applied for the beta a little while back, but > looking > >at it now and at my plate, it looks like I should wait for the retail > >product. > > > >So if MM is keeping tabs, I'll bow out in favor of Marlon. :-) > > > >-Kevin > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:31 AM > >Subject: Re: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) > > > > > >> Oh man, this looks like a godsend! I am way too excited about this. > >> > >> > >> You will accept my beta application. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mike Brunt wrote: > >> > >> > Ben Forta just blogged the launch of Macromedia Flex (previously > >Royale). > >> > Verbatim - "Flex is designed to leverage existing and standards based > >> > back-ends, and ColdFusion developers will find that they can use Flex > to > >> > build sophisticated n-tier applications (with ColdFusion > providing the > >> > back-end processing, and Flex generating the client-side code)." > >> > There's a Breeze preso here > >> > http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/productinfo/brz_overview/ > >> > > >> > Kind Regards - Mike Brunt > >> > Webapper Services LLC > >> > Web Site http://www.webapper.com > >> > Blog http://www.webapper.net > >> > > >> > Webapper > >> > > >> > > >> > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
The dudes name in the prior post perhaps ;-) Jb. -Original Message- From: David Keevil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 November 2003 17:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re:Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) Marlon.. ??? Please tell us Outsiders what that is. >It does look cool! I applied for the beta a little while back, but looking >at it now and at my plate, it looks like I should wait for the retail >product. > >So if MM is keeping tabs, I'll bow out in favor of Marlon. :-) > >-Kevin > > >- Original Message - >From: "Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:31 AM >Subject: Re: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) > > >> Oh man, this looks like a godsend! I am way too excited about this. >> >> >> You will accept my beta application. >> >> >> >> >> Mike Brunt wrote: >> >> > Ben Forta just blogged the launch of Macromedia Flex (previously >Royale). >> > Verbatim - "Flex is designed to leverage existing and standards based >> > back-ends, and ColdFusion developers will find that they can use Flex to >> > build sophisticated n-tier applications (with ColdFusion providing the >> > back-end processing, and Flex generating the client-side code)." >> > There's a Breeze preso here >> > http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/productinfo/brz_overview/ >> > >> > Kind Regards - Mike Brunt >> > Webapper Services LLC >> > Web Site http://www.webapper.com >> > Blog http://www.webapper.net >> > >> > Webapper >> > >> > >> [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
It does look cool! I applied for the beta a little while back, but looking at it now and at my plate, it looks like I should wait for the retail product. So if MM is keeping tabs, I'll bow out in favor of Marlon. :-) -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: Re: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale) > Oh man, this looks like a godsend! I am way too excited about this. > > > You will accept my beta application. > > > > > Mike Brunt wrote: > > > Ben Forta just blogged the launch of Macromedia Flex (previously Royale). > > Verbatim - "Flex is designed to leverage existing and standards based > > back-ends, and ColdFusion developers will find that they can use Flex to > > build sophisticated n-tier applications (with ColdFusion providing the > > back-end processing, and Flex generating the client-side code)." > > There's a Breeze preso here > > http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/productinfo/brz_overview/ > > > > Kind Regards - Mike Brunt > > Webapper Services LLC > > Web Site http://www.webapper.com > > Blog http://www.webapper.net > > > > Webapper > > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: Macromedia launches Flex (Was Royale)
Oh man, this looks like a godsend! I am way too excited about this. You will accept my beta application. Mike Brunt wrote: > Ben Forta just blogged the launch of Macromedia Flex (previously Royale). > Verbatim Flex is designed to leverage existing and standards based > back-ends, and ColdFusion developers will find that they can use Flex to > build sophisticated n-tier applications (with ColdFusion providing the > back-end processing, and Flex generating the client-side code). > Theres a Breeze preso here > http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/productinfo/brz_overview/ > > Kind Regards - Mike Brunt > Webapper Services LLC > Web Site http://www.webapper.com > Blog http://www.webapper.net > > Webapper > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
