Re: New email format
Thanks. I'm doing my best to make it as painless as possible for subscribers. My next 'trick' will be to devise a way to auto-clip long quoted messages. Some people post a reply with the entire thread in it and then the next person does, then the next, etc. This leads to huge messages for no reason. A response should be the text that a person is responding to and their message. I'm thinking that every post that has over 15 quoted lines in it will have the 16th quoted line on down till the message end removed. That should be safe and cut down on the amount of data going around. > [Peter Tilbrook] Just noticed the new HTML format. > > Looks nice :) ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
Hi Mike, Good work, I like the new "lean" HTML format... Wish: I would like to have the indented reply-history (the | or > lines) colored differently... - Hugo Ahlenius E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project OfficerPhone:+46 8 230460 UNEP GRID-Arendal Fax: +46 8 230441 Stockholm Office Mobile: +46 733 467111 WWW: http://www.grida.no - Original Message From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:06 Subject: Re: New email format | Thanks. I'm doing my best to make it as painless as possible for | subscribers. | My next 'trick' will be to devise a way to auto-clip long quoted | messages. Some people post a reply with the entire thread in it and | then the next person does, then the next, etc. This leads to huge | messages for no reason. A response should be the text that a person | is responding to and their message. | I'm thinking that every post that has over 15 quoted lines in it will | have the 16th quoted line on down till the message end removed. That | should be safe and cut down on the amount of data going around. | || [Peter Tilbrook] Just noticed the new HTML format. || || Looks nice :) | | ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
Peter Tilbrook wrote: > [Peter Tilbrook] Just noticed the new HTML format. > > Looks nice :) > Egad, there's HTML in that thar e-mail. And I didn't even notice it! Doh. Obviously not awake yet. Having noticed it I've already right-clicked and selected 'Block images from server'. But I agree, it does look nice. Or at least pretty much like the plain-text format! ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
> Egad, there's HTML in that thar e-mail. > > And I didn't even notice it! Doh. Obviously not awake yet. Until you try to quote it... In my opinion it's a pain. I had to convert the email to plain text and manually quote it :-( Traditionally CF-Talk users have been know for very poor quoting, things will only get worst. Massimo Foti Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer http://www.massimocorner.com/ ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
Let me see what I can do about it. > Hi Mike, > > Good work, I like the new "lean" HTML format... Wish: I would like to have > the indented reply-history (the | or > lines) colored differently... ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
What mail reader are you using? I have it set up to allow for auto quoting as normal. > > Egad, there's HTML in that thar e-mail. > > > > And I didn't even notice it! Doh. Obviously not awake yet. > > Until you try to quote it... > > In my opinion it's a pain. I had to convert the email to plain text and > manually quote it :-( > Traditionally CF-Talk users have been know for very poor quoting, things > will only get worst. ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
> What mail reader are you using? I have it set up to allow for auto quoting as > normal. OE 6.00.2600 Massimo ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
Very strange. I'm using the same. Might be that I've got mine currently set to send all messages as plain text. On the other hand, when set to send in html format, it worked perfectly. I'll look into this more as well. > > What mail reader are you using? I have it set up to allow for auto quoting > as > > normal. > > OE 6.00.2600 > > Massimo > > ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
Ah well there you go IE is pretty rubbish at quoting/editing in HTML (about the only thing its rubbish at) All works fine with Mozilla Thunderbird mind... ;o) Stephen Massimo Foti wrote: >> What mail reader are you using? I have it set up to allow for auto quoting > as >> normal. > > OE 6.00.2600 > > Massimo > ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 08:27 am, Peter Tilbrook wrote: > Looks nice :) > ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
> Very strange. I'm using the same. Might be that I've got mine currently set to > send all messages as plain text. I've set the options to send everything in plain text. Anyway, I see the vast majority is already happy with HTML, so I don't complain. Massimo ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
> IE is pretty rubbish at quoting/editing in HTML (about the only thing > its rubbish at) I never said OE is great :-) I also promise I am not going to complain anymore. The vast majority of the list seems happy with the choice. I will just reduce my post or avoid quoting at all (the list is pretty poor on quoting anyway) > All works fine with Mozilla Thunderbird mind... ;o) Tahnks, I've tried it out, it looks promising, just not ready for prime time, at least not for me Massimo ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) I want everyone to be happy if possible. > > Very strange. I'm using the same. Might be that I've got mine currently > set to > > send all messages as plain text. > > I've set the options to send everything in plain text. > Anyway, I see the vast majority is already happy with HTML, so I don't > complain. > > Massimo > > ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 10:11 am, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) I thought this was going to be on by default, at least for existing subscribers ? Could you clarify what is going on with HTML emails, or not, any preferences that have an effect, and any pre or post processing the mailing list software performs ? -- Tom Chiverton (sorry 'bout sig.) Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
1. Your accounts will not be altered by me in any way. To change to text only email, you'll have to change it by hand. As I'm trying to make the email as painless as possible and keep as many people on the HTML email, there's a reason for not making text only the default (besides that it would affect other lists not on the system yet). 2. Even though the email is sent by the list in a legal HTML format, the body of the email is text only. Viruses, attachments, markup, scripts, etc. are stripped out before being sent. 3. The mail is formatted so that any system should be able to reply and quote properly. If a system has problems with quoting, please contact me off list and I'll work with you to find the issue. My goal is as close to perfect email as possible. 4. A minimum of 10% of the banners on the lists will be dedicated to non-profit CF resources. If you run such a resource, please contact me. 5. Money from the banners (when the banners are actually for pay) will be used to pay for House of Fusion / Fusion Authority features to the benefit of the community. Many have used the "best of talk" and enjoyed it. Many have used articles from FA to their benefit. Our goal is to keep all of our resources free for the community to use while paying people to add to those resources. Articles, features, code, etc. > On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 10:11 am, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) > > I thought this was going to be on by default, at least for existing > subscribers ? > Could you clarify what is going on with HTML emails, or not, any preferences > that have an effect, and any pre or post processing the mailing list software > performs ? > ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
> There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) Just tried it out > I want everyone to be happy if possible. I appreciate all you do. You aren't supposed to keep me happy, you already do a lot for the whole community Massimo ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
> > There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) > > Just tried it out > It works great! Thanks a lot :-))) Massimo Foti Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer http://www.massimocorner.com/ ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 09:51 am, Thomas Chiverton wrote: > On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 08:27 am, Peter Tilbrook wrote: > > Looks nice :) Something swallowed the text of my reply, about how it doesn't look nice in a plain-text view, possibly due to the wrapping @79 chars. I hope this reply shows up... -- Tom Chiverton (sorry 'bout sig.) Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
At 05:11 AM 9/23/03 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: >There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) >I want everyone to be happy if possible. I can't find the text only option. The new font isn't bad, but it isn't nearly as readable as the default font in Eudora, I find. T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: New email format
I agree, its a tad unreadable -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 September 2003 11:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New email format At 05:11 AM 9/23/03 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: >There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) >I want everyone to be happy if possible. I can't find the text only option. The new font isn't bad, but it isn't nearly as readable as the default font in Eudora, I find. T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: New email format
Ok you've got me stumped. I've looked around HouseofFusion for ages and can't find any settings I can modify except my password. And yes, I did click on "User Settings" on the bottom of the emails.I see all the text on this list in courier, even though it's plainly coming in as HTML. Where are the rest of you setting things? Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2003 8:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New email format At 05:11 AM 9/23/03 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: >There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) >I want everyone to be happy if possible. I can't find the text only option. The new font isn't bad, but it isn't nearly as readable as the default font in Eudora, I find. T ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
On Tuesday 23 Sep 2003 11:19 am, Thane Sherrington wrote: > At 05:11 AM 9/23/03 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > >There's always the text only option on the subscription page. :) > >I want everyone to be happy if possible. > > I can't find the text only option. The new font isn't bad, but it isn't > nearly as readable as the default font in Eudora, I find. It's towards the bottom of the drop down list on the 'subscribe' page, once you are loged in, and click on a mailing list on the left side in the 'mailing list' area. I've just done it, and it improves things a lot. However, advert text appears appove the mailing list footer line of tildes :-( -- Tom Chiverton (sorry 'bout sig.) Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: New email format
Bravo Mike! This is a ton of work that we all appreciate. Thanks, Scott ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
At 11:27 AM 09/23/03 +0100, Thomas Chiverton wrote: >It's towards the bottom of the drop down list on the 'subscribe' page, once >you are loged in, and click on a mailing list on the left side in the >'mailing list' area. Found it. It isn't in the most obvious place in the world. :) T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
Actually, I'm very unhappy with it. But I've been using it for a week on CF-Comm unity now just to provide Mike with feedback. Now that he's gone live with it, I think I'll be switching my preferences back to text-only. -Kevin - Original Message - From: Massimo Foti To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:54 AM Subject: Re: New email format > Very strange. I'm using the same. Might be that I've got mine currently set to > send all messages as plain text. I've set the options to send everything in plain text. Anyway, I see the vast majority is already happy with HTML, so I don't complain. Massimo ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: New email format
I have a problem with code dissapearing when there are tags in it. Just posted something on cf-regexp and part of the regular _expression_ is gone because it is checking for tags! Pascal ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: New email format
I like it, but I do wish that you could specify the font, something sans-serif l ike verdana or arial would be really nice... I find reading serif fonts unpleasa nt. - Calvin - Original Message - From: Kevin Graeme To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:50 AM Subject: Re: New email format Actually, I'm very unhappy with it. But I've been using it for a week on CF-Comm unity now just to provide Mike with feedback. Now that he's gone live with it, I think I'll be switching my preferences back to text-only. -Kevin - Original Message - From: Massimo Foti To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:54 AM Subject: Re: New email format > Very strange. I'm using the same. Might be that I've got mine currently set to > send all messages as plain text. I've set the options to send everything in plain text. Anyway, I see the vast majority is already happy with HTML, so I don't complain. Massimo ~| [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
