Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors
On 5/4/07, Will Tomlinson wrote: > Is this the part where I make funny jokes about the name, FCKeditor?? You will be able to call it "CFTextArea" at some point in the future. I just read the following announcement: "Adobe has chosen FCKeditor for one of the great new features of its next major release of ColdFusion, code named Scorpio. Some reviews of it can be found on the web. For ColdFusion programmers, it will be as easy as defining a tag to see FCKeditor playing all its power on their pages, out of the box. ..." http://www.fckeditor.net/newsarchive And on the home page of the site. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janitor, The Robertson Team mysecretbase.com ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277082 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors
>>FCK has by far the best scrubbing tool I've found for removing that crap MS dumps into it. Right, although it can be much improved, which I did in my own inline editor. But the most retarded thing in FCK (unless this has been improved) is that the cleaning is left to the good will of the user. The user does not even know that MS Word can produce garbage, most of the time he won't use it. In my editor, the cleaning is not even mentioned, it is mandatory and invisible. And it works with all mean a user can paste text : Ctrl-V, but also right-click-Paste and drag'n drop. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277065 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Online WYSIWYG Editors
>All of the main WYSIWYG editors on the market today are all based on >the same core systems which allow the word html garbage to make it >through. FCK has by far the best scrubbing tool I've found for >removing that crap MS dumps into it. I think that statement should be revised to say that all the "non-plugin based WYSIWYG editors on the market..." XStandard, which is plug-in based, does an excellent job stripping out the Word stuff during a paste operation. As a matter of fact, pasted code will be XHTML compliant. The key reason I went w/XStandard was that it allows copying and pasting of images--which are automatically uploaded via an web service. This means a user can copy and paste the entire contents of a Word document--which includes images--and the content will all be preserved. This is the one thing that *none* of the browser-based WYSIWYG (FCKEditor, TinyMCE, KHTML, etc) can do for you. Our users have lots of pre-existing documents already prepared in Word format, so allowing them to cut-n-paste the entire contents of the document (including their screenshots) was a requirement for us. -Dan ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors
Is this the part where I make funny jokes about the name, FCKeditor?? :) Will ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277059 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors
I know what he means by issues. When you paste out of word into ANY online editor, the evil word formating garbage survives and makes it way into your site. All of the main WYSIWYG editors on the market today are all based on the same core systems which allow the word html garbage to make it through. FCK has by far the best scrubbing tool I've found for removing that crap MS dumps into it. If your users aren't that bright, I would update the FCK toolset they are using to only include the Paste From Word button, and not the standard paste button. This will force them to use it and it does a pretty solid job of removing the excess formatting info from Word. -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277058 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors
If you haven't given the FCK editor a look for some time, it's worth looking at again. The latest versions are highly improved over previous versions and has been my editor of choice for my last few projects that have demanded this capability. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277057 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Online WYSIWYG Editors
Relative linking is a super tough issue. And furthermore, I am not sure it is the issue of the editor - it's an issue of feasibility. Think about where you are doing the editing (some kind of admin probably). When you do the editing, the image paths are not going to be the same as when the content shows up on the front end of the web site. I am not sure you will find any editor that handles this very nicely. XStandard does have a lot of stuff to handle this sort of thing (you can defined a "base url" for XStandard to use during rendering at which time relative links will be relative to that one), but I still use absolute paths as it just makes life easier. .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors Only problems we have are when users use relative links all over the place when they create their files in Dreamweaver or something and then attempt to use KTML. Of course the images are not going to line up half the time because relative links suck ass. Other than that KTML 4 has worked out very well. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277055 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors
Only problems we have are when users use relative links all over the place when they create their files in Dreamweaver or something and then attempt to use KTML. Of course the images are not going to line up half the time because relative links suck ass. Other than that KTML 4 has worked out very well. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277052 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors
I've always gone with TinyMCE. It doesn't have all the neat integration pieces (like server-side file/image management) built in, but I've always found the editor itself to be superior, and am rather disappointed that Scorpio is shipping with FCK. cheers, barneyb On 5/4/07, Chad McCue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to find a good online editor that I can integrate in my > clients website. They want to be able to update their content that > appears on their websites. > > I have looked at and used KTML, FCKEditor and both seem to give me > issues when customers try and copy and paste into the HTML code view of > the editor. > > Anyone else use any other editors that work very well. I need something > that is very easy to use. Most of my clients are not great with > computers. > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277050 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Online WYSIWYG Editors
what do you mean by "issues"? On 5/4/07, Chad McCue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am trying to find a good online editor that I can integrate in my > clients website. They want to be able to update their content that > appears on their websites. > > I have looked at and used KTML, FCKEditor and both seem to give me > issues when customers try and copy and paste into the HTML code view of > the editor. > > Anyone else use any other editors that work very well. I need something > that is very easy to use. Most of my clients are not great with > computers. > > > > ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277049 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Online WYSIWYG Editors
I still stand by Xstandard :) it has licensing issues that might make it "Not Right" for your client's situation... But it is a totally bad-ass XHTML compliant editor. http://www.bennadel.com/blog/tags/15-XStandard-WYSIWYG-blog-entries.htm .. Ben Nadel Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com Need ColdFusion Help? www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/ -Original Message- From: Chad McCue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Online WYSIWYG Editors I am trying to find a good online editor that I can integrate in my clients website. They want to be able to update their content that appears on their websites. I have looked at and used KTML, FCKEditor and both seem to give me issues when customers try and copy and paste into the HTML code view of the editor. Anyone else use any other editors that work very well. I need something that is very easy to use. Most of my clients are not great with computers. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277048 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
