RE: Server Performance

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Kruger

No prob. 


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-Original Message-
From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:22 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Server Performance


Thanks Mark this actually helped quite a bit. I didn't realize that option
was available in perfmon.

Thanks,
Patrick J. Hedgepath
Pegasus Web Productions
webmas...@pegweb.com
803-996-0578





-Original Message-
From: Mark Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Server Performance


2 things for you.

First, check the DB for blocks and locks - about 9 times out of ten
queuing
requests are due to DB requests that are hanging. For some reason we web
developers bang our head against CF over and over thinking there is
something we can do on the web server to solve problems that exist on
the DB
server :)

Secondly,  If you are already running perfmon then you can get the
information on which site is busiest (or at least handling the most
requests).

Choose "web service" and then "Current connections" and "all instances".
Use
the report view (the little page icon next to the chart icon on the
toolbar)
it is clearer.

Oh... "current connections"  is appropriate for Wind2003 and above. For
windows 2000 use "current anonymous users". 


What you should see (using the report view) is a horizontal list of all
your
sites. The "_total" will be the first item. On a busy server you may
need to
scroll to the right to see them all. You can click on them and delete
the
ones you know are not the problem. 

Even though seeFusion and fusionReactor are great tools, I set up saved
Perfomon mcc's for all my windows servers - in fact you can view the
counters remotely (if you have the right domain rules in place) and you
can
see more than one server at a time in the same perfmon instance. Granted
it
is less introspective than one of the Java tools  - but for a quick
glimpse
of a server to answer the question - how busy is it - in real time, it's
handy and easy.

-Mark



Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com

-Original Message-
From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Server Performance


Is there a way through command line or a 3rd party application to see
what
web sites on a CF Pro 8 server are causing the most requests? On one
particular server it is starting to show behavior of page timeouts and
longer running requests. In the Performance Monitor in windows I see the
running requests will max out from time to time and then requests start
to
queue. I want to be able to determine which sites are generating the
most
requests so I can examine the traffic and the code on those sites for
potential problems. Anybody know of any way to do this?




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RE: Server Performance

2009-12-18 Thread webmaster

Thanks. I will look over these.


-Original Message-
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:sd1...@att.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:01 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Server Performance


CFMeetup just had a meeting on "Homebrewed ColdFusion Monitoring" by Wil
Genovese.

It was an awesome meetup and the recording can be viewed at:
http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/pages/Recordings_of_the_ColdFusio
n_Meetup-2009/

Or at: http://experts.na3.acrobat.com/p34004904/

Also Wil has put the presentation files up at his blog. They are at:
http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2009/12/10/Homebrewed-ColdFusion-Monit
or-Presentation-Files

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Mark Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Server Performance


2 things for you.

First, check the DB for blocks and locks - about 9 times out of ten
queuing
requests are due to DB requests that are hanging. For some reason we web
developers bang our head against CF over and over thinking there is
something we can do on the web server to solve problems that exist on
the DB
server :)

Secondly,  If you are already running perfmon then you can get the
information on which site is busiest (or at least handling the most
requests).

Choose "web service" and then "Current connections" and "all instances".
Use
the report view (the little page icon next to the chart icon on the
toolbar)
it is clearer.

Oh... "current connections"  is appropriate for Wind2003 and above. For
windows 2000 use "current anonymous users". 


What you should see (using the report view) is a horizontal list of all
your
sites. The "_total" will be the first item. On a busy server you may
need to
scroll to the right to see them all. You can click on them and delete
the
ones you know are not the problem. 

Even though seeFusion and fusionReactor are great tools, I set up saved
Perfomon mcc's for all my windows servers - in fact you can view the
counters remotely (if you have the right domain rules in place) and you
can
see more than one server at a time in the same perfmon instance. Granted
it
is less introspective than one of the Java tools  - but for a quick
glimpse
of a server to answer the question - how busy is it - in real time, it's
handy and easy.

-Mark



Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com

-Original Message-
From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Server Performance


Is there a way through command line or a 3rd party application to see
what
web sites on a CF Pro 8 server are causing the most requests? On one
particular server it is starting to show behavior of page timeouts and
longer running requests. In the Performance Monitor in windows I see the
running requests will max out from time to time and then requests start
to
queue. I want to be able to determine which sites are generating the
most
requests so I can examine the traffic and the code on those sites for
potential problems. Anybody know of any way to do this?

 

 

 

 









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RE: Server Performance

2009-12-18 Thread webmaster

Thanks Mark this actually helped quite a bit. I didn't realize that
option was available in perfmon.

Thanks,
Patrick J. Hedgepath
Pegasus Web Productions
webmas...@pegweb.com
803-996-0578





-Original Message-
From: Mark Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Server Performance


2 things for you.

First, check the DB for blocks and locks - about 9 times out of ten
queuing
requests are due to DB requests that are hanging. For some reason we web
developers bang our head against CF over and over thinking there is
something we can do on the web server to solve problems that exist on
the DB
server :)

Secondly,  If you are already running perfmon then you can get the
information on which site is busiest (or at least handling the most
requests).

Choose "web service" and then "Current connections" and "all instances".
Use
the report view (the little page icon next to the chart icon on the
toolbar)
it is clearer.

Oh... "current connections"  is appropriate for Wind2003 and above. For
windows 2000 use "current anonymous users". 


What you should see (using the report view) is a horizontal list of all
your
sites. The "_total" will be the first item. On a busy server you may
need to
scroll to the right to see them all. You can click on them and delete
the
ones you know are not the problem. 

Even though seeFusion and fusionReactor are great tools, I set up saved
Perfomon mcc's for all my windows servers - in fact you can view the
counters remotely (if you have the right domain rules in place) and you
can
see more than one server at a time in the same perfmon instance. Granted
it
is less introspective than one of the Java tools  - but for a quick
glimpse
of a server to answer the question - how busy is it - in real time, it's
handy and easy.

-Mark



Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com

-Original Message-
From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Server Performance


Is there a way through command line or a 3rd party application to see
what
web sites on a CF Pro 8 server are causing the most requests? On one
particular server it is starting to show behavior of page timeouts and
longer running requests. In the Performance Monitor in windows I see the
running requests will max out from time to time and then requests start
to
queue. I want to be able to determine which sites are generating the
most
requests so I can examine the traffic and the code on those sites for
potential problems. Anybody know of any way to do this?


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RE: Server Performance

2009-12-18 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)

CFMeetup just had a meeting on "Homebrewed ColdFusion Monitoring" by Wil
Genovese.

It was an awesome meetup and the recording can be viewed at:
http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/pages/Recordings_of_the_ColdFusio
n_Meetup-2009/

Or at: http://experts.na3.acrobat.com/p34004904/

Also Wil has put the presentation files up at his blog. They are at:
http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2009/12/10/Homebrewed-ColdFusion-Monit
or-Presentation-Files

Steve


-Original Message-
From: Mark Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Server Performance


2 things for you.

First, check the DB for blocks and locks - about 9 times out of ten
queuing
requests are due to DB requests that are hanging. For some reason we web
developers bang our head against CF over and over thinking there is
something we can do on the web server to solve problems that exist on
the DB
server :)

Secondly,  If you are already running perfmon then you can get the
information on which site is busiest (or at least handling the most
requests).

Choose "web service" and then "Current connections" and "all instances".
Use
the report view (the little page icon next to the chart icon on the
toolbar)
it is clearer.

Oh... "current connections"  is appropriate for Wind2003 and above. For
windows 2000 use "current anonymous users". 


What you should see (using the report view) is a horizontal list of all
your
sites. The "_total" will be the first item. On a busy server you may
need to
scroll to the right to see them all. You can click on them and delete
the
ones you know are not the problem. 

Even though seeFusion and fusionReactor are great tools, I set up saved
Perfomon mcc's for all my windows servers - in fact you can view the
counters remotely (if you have the right domain rules in place) and you
can
see more than one server at a time in the same perfmon instance. Granted
it
is less introspective than one of the Java tools  - but for a quick
glimpse
of a server to answer the question - how busy is it - in real time, it's
handy and easy.

-Mark



Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com

-Original Message-
From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Server Performance


Is there a way through command line or a 3rd party application to see
what
web sites on a CF Pro 8 server are causing the most requests? On one
particular server it is starting to show behavior of page timeouts and
longer running requests. In the Performance Monitor in windows I see the
running requests will max out from time to time and then requests start
to
queue. I want to be able to determine which sites are generating the
most
requests so I can examine the traffic and the code on those sites for
potential problems. Anybody know of any way to do this?

 

 

 

 







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RE: Server Performance

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Kruger

2 things for you.

First, check the DB for blocks and locks - about 9 times out of ten queuing
requests are due to DB requests that are hanging. For some reason we web
developers bang our head against CF over and over thinking there is
something we can do on the web server to solve problems that exist on the DB
server :)

Secondly,  If you are already running perfmon then you can get the
information on which site is busiest (or at least handling the most
requests).

Choose "web service" and then "Current connections" and "all instances". Use
the report view (the little page icon next to the chart icon on the toolbar)
it is clearer.

Oh... "current connections"  is appropriate for Wind2003 and above. For
windows 2000 use "current anonymous users". 


What you should see (using the report view) is a horizontal list of all your
sites. The "_total" will be the first item. On a busy server you may need to
scroll to the right to see them all. You can click on them and delete the
ones you know are not the problem. 

Even though seeFusion and fusionReactor are great tools, I set up saved
Perfomon mcc's for all my windows servers - in fact you can view the
counters remotely (if you have the right domain rules in place) and you can
see more than one server at a time in the same perfmon instance. Granted it
is less introspective than one of the Java tools  - but for a quick glimpse
of a server to answer the question - how busy is it - in real time, it's
handy and easy.

-Mark



Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com

-Original Message-
From: webmas...@pegweb.com [mailto:webmas...@pegweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Server Performance


Is there a way through command line or a 3rd party application to see what
web sites on a CF Pro 8 server are causing the most requests? On one
particular server it is starting to show behavior of page timeouts and
longer running requests. In the Performance Monitor in windows I see the
running requests will max out from time to time and then requests start to
queue. I want to be able to determine which sites are generating the most
requests so I can examine the traffic and the code on those sites for
potential problems. Anybody know of any way to do this?

 

 

 

 





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Re: Server Performance

2009-12-18 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Friday 18 Dec 2009, webmas...@pegweb.com wrote:
> Is there a way through command line or a 3rd party application to see
> what web sites on a CF Pro 8 server are causing the most requests? 

Your web server logs would seem the obvious bet...

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RE: Server Performance

2009-12-17 Thread brad

Another good choice for a little less dough is SeeFusion which has some
very handy database logging.
http://www.seefusion.com/

~Brad


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Server Performance
From: Andrew Scott 
Date: Thu, December 17, 2009 6:52 pm
To: cf-talk 


As you are not running ColdFusion Enterprise your best bet would be
http://www.fusion-reactor.com/




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Re: Server Performance

2009-12-17 Thread Andrew Scott

As you are not running ColdFusion Enterprise your best bet would be
http://www.fusion-reactor.com/



On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:20 AM,  wrote:

>
> Is there a way through command line or a 3rd party application to see
> what web sites on a CF Pro 8 server are causing the most requests? On
> one particular server it is starting to show behavior of page timeouts
> and longer running requests. In the Performance Monitor in windows I see
> the running requests will max out from time to time and then requests
> start to queue. I want to be able to determine which sites are
> generating the most requests so I can examine the traffic and the code
> on those sites for potential problems. Anybody know of any way to do
> this?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-12-14 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 14 Dec 2007, Dan G. Switzer, II wrote:
> Do you have any of CF8's Server Monitoring enabled? It's known to cause
> performance issues and should only be used to debug problems; 

You can (I'd argue should) have the first level of monitoring enabled.

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RE: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-12-14 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
>>Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.
>After
>>starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
>>less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
>>cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
>>up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
>>loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
>>any code changes since upgrading.
>>Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>>
>
>I have had this EXACT problem!  Have you found a solution?  A fire-
>breathing, quad-processor, dual core Dell that just locks up - weird!

Do you have any of CF8's Server Monitoring enabled? It's known to cause
performance issues and should only be used to debug problems; you shouldn't
enable it in normal circumstances.

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RE: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-12-14 Thread Will Swain
Might be worth downloading FusionReactor and installing that. I think you
get a 10 day trial. You'll get pretty much all the monitoring functionality
that you'd get with Enterprise. 

http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fr/downloads.cfm?gclid=CJ30m97ap5ACFSJIEgod30O
H7Q

Cheers

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Sent: 14 December 2007 11:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

>Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  
>After starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, 
>sometimes less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor 
>load.  (It's a 2 cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the 
>processor load will jump up to about 25% and stay there until CF is 
>restarted. Pages then start loading very sluggishly.  This never 
>happened with CF7 and I haven't made any code changes since upgrading.
>Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>

I have had this EXACT problem!  Have you found a solution?  A
fire-breathing, quad-processor, dual core Dell that just locks up - weird!

>
>Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard 
>edition of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.



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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Hendren
>Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
>starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
>less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
>cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
>up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
>loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
>any code changes since upgrading.
>Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>

I have had this EXACT problem!  Have you found a solution?  A fire-breathing, 
quad-processor, dual core Dell that just locks up - weird!

>
>Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard edition
>of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor. 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Kevin Pompei wrote:
> Well I've isolated the problem down.  It happens 1 hour and 7 minutes after
> restart which it time that is set for the client stores to be purged.  This
> must be a bug in CF because once it starts the one CPU core is at 100% and
> stays there even for days until the server is restarted.

Do you store client variables in the registry? If so, don't. And make 
sure you change the default storage from Registry to None. If you store 
client variables in the database you should be able to see what SQL CF 
executes or just disable automatic purging and run your own purge 
directly on the 2 tables from a scheduled task.

Jochem

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-30 Thread Kevin Pompei
Well I've isolated the problem down.  It happens 1 hour and 7 minutes after
restart which it time that is set for the client stores to be purged.  This
must be a bug in CF because once it starts the one CPU core is at 100% and
stays there even for days until the server is restarted.


On 10/30/07, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That makes me think you should try a different GC... How about the
> concMarksweep GC? Theoretically it should handle scheduling across
> multiple
> procs better than the default parallel GC. Can you post your java args
> from
> the JVM.config file - and the general config of the server?
>
> -Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Pompei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8
>
> You're correct.  One core is at 100%.
>
> On 10/29/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On a four core system, a CPU pegged at 25% means one core is at 100%;
> > CF has probably filled the JVM memory and is permanently garbage
> > collecting.
> >
> > I agree with Dave - get FusionReactor and set a memory alert threshold
> > in the crash prevention options.
> >
> > On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating
> > problem.  After
> > > starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours,
> > sometimes
> > > less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.
> > > (It's a
> > 2
> > > cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load
> > > will
> > jump
> > > up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then
> > > start loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I
> > > haven't
> > made
> > > any code changes since upgrading.
> > > Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
> >
> > --
> > mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
> > http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-30 Thread Mark A Kruger
That makes me think you should try a different GC... How about the
concMarksweep GC? Theoretically it should handle scheduling across multiple
procs better than the default parallel GC. Can you post your java args from
the JVM.config file - and the general config of the server?

-Mark 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Pompei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

You're correct.  One core is at 100%.

On 10/29/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On a four core system, a CPU pegged at 25% means one core is at 100%; 
> CF has probably filled the JVM memory and is permanently garbage 
> collecting.
>
> I agree with Dave - get FusionReactor and set a memory alert threshold 
> in the crash prevention options.
>
> On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating
> problem.  After
> > starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours,
> sometimes
> > less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  
> > (It's a
> 2
> > cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load 
> > will
> jump
> > up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then 
> > start loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I 
> > haven't
> made
> > any code changes since upgrading.
> > Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>
> --
> mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
> http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
>
> 



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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-30 Thread Kevin Pompei
Thanks Dave.  I'll try this.

On 10/29/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the
> > standard edition of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.
>
> I suggest you invest in one of the other monitoring tools available -
> SeeFusion or FusionReactor. You will likely find the problem a lot faster,
> and it'll pay for itself on its first use as a result.
>
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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-30 Thread Kevin Pompei
You're correct.  One core is at 100%.

On 10/29/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On a four core system, a CPU pegged at 25% means one core is at 100%;
> CF has probably filled the JVM memory and is permanently garbage
> collecting.
>
> I agree with Dave - get FusionReactor and set a memory alert threshold
> in the crash prevention options.
>
> On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating
> problem.  After
> > starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours,
> sometimes
> > less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a
> 2
> > cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will
> jump
> > up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
> > loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't
> made
> > any code changes since upgrading.
> > Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>
> --
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> http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
>
> 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-29 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Kevin Pompei wrote:
> Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
> starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
> less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
> cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
> up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted.

I have seen this before on systems that had profiling enabled, but

> Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard edition
> of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.

that can not be your problem.


If you installed CF less then 30 days ago you should be able to remove 
the license key from license.properties and after a restart it should 
revert to a trial license. With a trial license you can start the server 
monitor. Obviously you should not try this in production.

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-29 Thread Brian Kotek
You could also install the Dev version locally at and try running the code
with the server monitor turned on.

On 10/29/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating
> problem.  After
> starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
> less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
> cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
> up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
> loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
> any code changes since upgrading.
> Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>
>
> Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard
> edition
> of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.
>
>
> 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-29 Thread Mark Mandel
Kevin,

What codebase are you running on it?

Mark

On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
> starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
> less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
> cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
> up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
> loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
> any code changes since upgrading.
> Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>
>
> Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard edition
> of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.
>
>
> 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-29 Thread James Holmes
On a four core system, a CPU pegged at 25% means one core is at 100%;
CF has probably filled the JVM memory and is permanently garbage
collecting.

I agree with Dave - get FusionReactor and set a memory alert threshold
in the crash prevention options.

On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
> starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
> less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
> cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
> up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
> loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
> any code changes since upgrading.
> Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.

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RE: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

2007-10-29 Thread Dave Watts
> Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the 
> standard edition of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.

I suggest you invest in one of the other monitoring tools available -
SeeFusion or FusionReactor. You will likely find the problem a lot faster,
and it'll pay for itself on its first use as a result.

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RE: Server performance

2006-11-06 Thread Russ
Grab a copy of seefusion or fusionreactor and watch the server especially
when it's timing out.  You might see what's going on . 

Russ



> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 11:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Server performance
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I am getting random errors from CF along the lines of "The request has
> exceeded the allowable time limit Tag: cfmail "... the error varies from
> CFMAIL, CFOUTPUT and CFQUERY tags and different pages. The queries are
> fine, because they work most of the time and I've run them through a DB
> client which returns the result set very fast. CFMAIL is fine as well. I
> think that there is something else going on because it's random, therefore
> I'm thinking that it's timing out when the server is overloaded. Can
> anyone suggest how I could find out more precisely why pages are timing
> out (the pages vary as well)? I guess I need to look at stress testing the
> server, so where on earth do I start? Also, is there any good resources
> with suggestion on how the CFADMIN settings can be optimised? At the
> moment CF is setup to receive 8 simultaneous connections.
> 
> The server is Windows Server 2003, MySql 4.1, IIS
> 
> Cheers
> Matthew
> 
> 

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Re: Server performance

2004-10-06 Thread Nathan Strutz
2-300 users, 500k cf hits/day is not all that much (it's a good amount,
but it's not at all abusive). Also, it depends on how you measure
concurrency. Some people do it by # of cf sessions, some by DB last
activity time, and others by whatever their log stats says. Others would
argue that you can't measure user concurrency, but hits/sec concurrency.
If you talk to CF support engineers, they will ask you about concurrent
hits.

You won't find much better performance with CF Enterprise, unless you're
sending mass amounts of email. I have an app that runs way more traffic
on cf standard, no slowdowns.

What it really probably boils down to is your application. I know you
can't share your code (not even the nasty parts), but that would be
helpful. Perhaps we could help a bit.

It sounds like you need to do some performance tuning. Perhaps
re-evaluate some of the things you do, and they way you go about doing
these things. Reduce the number of database transactions and move
queries to stored procedures. Look for ways around other external
processes like cfhttp, cfftp, cfmail, cfpop, image processing and so on.
If you can make these processes asynchronous, do so. Remove or replace
any CFX tags. Make sure you have all the CFMX patches (though I don't
recommend the post-6.1 updater, we had some sqlserver driver problems).
Turn on cfm page caching options. Begin caching queries wherever possible.

good luck

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JB McMichael wrote:

> I am currently running CFMX 6.1 Standard Edition with the updater
> installed on a Win2k3 server, with IIS, connecting to a SQL Server
> 2000 db that is on another computer.  The web server itself is a
> pretty beefy machine, and it is running one website that is fairly
> complex.  The site usually has 200 to 300 concurrent users and
> averages about 500,000 page views a day.
> 
> To me, this seems like a reasonable amount of traffic for a single
> server to handle.  But I am seeing, what I perceive to be, slow
> response times on most of the pages.  Myself and the other developers
> have gone through each page on the site and optimized all of the cf
> and sql and html as much as we can, and things have only improved
> slightly.
> 
> I was wondering if switching to CF Enterprise would make a difference?
> Or, if a switch to Enterprise with a different backend, besides JRun,
> would be faster?  Or should I put the money into a new web server or
> 2, and start running a load balanced site?
> 
> I am pretty sure that SQL Server is not the culprit in all of this.
> Its average time to return a query, at least according to the CF
> performance monitor, is around 35 msec.  And IIS doesn't seem to be at
> fault since we are timing the CF code itself, and I can see that it is
> slow.  And like I said earlier, we have gone through the code line by
> line pruning and tweaking, so I don't think (or I am hoping it isn't)
> the code is to blame.
> 
> So I am left with it either being a hardware issue, or I am hitting
> the limits of CF Standard Edition.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give,
> JB McMichael
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Re: Server performance

2004-10-06 Thread jschley
Not sure if the product support team has a technote published on this yet or not, but check out this Microsoft KB article regarding IIS6 performance. This issue does affect ColdFusion MX 6.1 running on IIS6. Fortunately, it's a pretty simple tweak and ultimately it's going to be fixed by Microsoft in W2K3 service pack 1.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;840875

BTW- make sure you have trusted cache turned on too.

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Re: Server performance

2004-10-06 Thread JB McMichael
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:32:21 +0200, Jochem van Dieten
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> JB McMichael wrote:
> > I am currently running CFMX 6.1 Standard Edition with the updater
> > installed on a Win2k3 server, with IIS, connecting to a SQL Server
> > 2000 db that is on another computer.  The web server itself is a
> > pretty beefy machine, and it is running one website that is fairly
> > complex.  The site usually has 200 to 300 concurrent users and
> > averages about 500,000 page views a day.
> >
> > To me, this seems like a reasonable amount of traffic for a single
> > server to handle.  But I am seeing, what I perceive to be, slow
> > response times on most of the pages.  Myself and the other developers
> > have gone through each page on the site and optimized all of the cf
> > and sql and html as much as we can, and things have only improved
> > slightly.
> 
> Do you have debugging enabled?

No, debugging is not enabled.
> 
> 
> > I was wondering if switching to CF Enterprise would make a difference?
> >  Or, if a switch to Enterprise with a different backend, besides JRun,
> > would be faster?  Or should I put the money into a new web server or
> > 2, and start running a load balanced site?
> 
> How far have you optimized your CF settings? Did you tweak any of
> the Java parameters?

I have gone through the Macromedia suggested settings for the CF
optimizations.  I can't find the link right now to the page, but
everything Macromedia recommends, I have set on the server.  If you
know of certain Java parameters I could use to speed things up, or a
page with information, please, let me know.
> 
> 
> > I am pretty sure that SQL Server is not the culprit in all of this.
> > Its average time to return a query, at least according to the CF
> > performance monitor, is around 35 msec.  And IIS doesn't seem to be at
> > fault since we are timing the CF code itself, and I can see that it is
> > slow.  And like I said earlier, we have gone through the code line by
> > line pruning and tweaking, so I don't think (or I am hoping it isn't)
> > the code is to blame.
> 
> Can you provide the 'worst case code' so we can have a look? What
> is the load on the system (CPU and I/O percentages)?
> 
I cannot provide any code, sorry.

> Jochem
> 
>
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Re: Server performance

2004-10-05 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
I too am loosing my system on a daily basis (CFMX 6.1, Win2k3, IIS, MS SQL Server).  It seems like a memory leak, after awhile, the system just crashes down with a JRun Error "Could not connect to JRun Server"

I have to restart my service .. if I wait until the system shuts itself down and produces the jrun error, the restart process takes multiple minutes with it erroring out saying it couldn't stop the service.

I have to babysit the server now, restarting the service about every 3-4 hours.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jochem van Dieten 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Server performance

  JB McMichael wrote:
  > I am currently running CFMX 6.1 Standard Edition with the updater
  > installed on a Win2k3 server, with IIS, connecting to a SQL Server
  > 2000 db that is on another computer.  The web server itself is a
  > pretty beefy machine, and it is running one website that is fairly
  > complex.  The site usually has 200 to 300 concurrent users and
  > averages about 500,000 page views a day.
  > 
  > To me, this seems like a reasonable amount of traffic for a single
  > server to handle.  But I am seeing, what I perceive to be, slow
  > response times on most of the pages.  Myself and the other developers
  > have gone through each page on the site and optimized all of the cf
  > and sql and html as much as we can, and things have only improved
  > slightly.

  Do you have debugging enabled?

  > I was wondering if switching to CF Enterprise would make a difference?
  >  Or, if a switch to Enterprise with a different backend, besides JRun,
  > would be faster?  Or should I put the money into a new web server or
  > 2, and start running a load balanced site?

  How far have you optimized your CF settings? Did you tweak any of 
  the Java parameters?

  > I am pretty sure that SQL Server is not the culprit in all of this. 
  > Its average time to return a query, at least according to the CF
  > performance monitor, is around 35 msec.  And IIS doesn't seem to be at
  > fault since we are timing the CF code itself, and I can see that it is
  > slow.  And like I said earlier, we have gone through the code line by
  > line pruning and tweaking, so I don't think (or I am hoping it isn't)
  > the code is to blame.

  Can you provide the 'worst case code' so we can have a look? What 
  is the load on the system (CPU and I/O percentages)?

  Jochem
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Re: Server performance

2004-10-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
JB McMichael wrote:
> I am currently running CFMX 6.1 Standard Edition with the updater
> installed on a Win2k3 server, with IIS, connecting to a SQL Server
> 2000 db that is on another computer.  The web server itself is a
> pretty beefy machine, and it is running one website that is fairly
> complex.  The site usually has 200 to 300 concurrent users and
> averages about 500,000 page views a day.
> 
> To me, this seems like a reasonable amount of traffic for a single
> server to handle.  But I am seeing, what I perceive to be, slow
> response times on most of the pages.  Myself and the other developers
> have gone through each page on the site and optimized all of the cf
> and sql and html as much as we can, and things have only improved
> slightly.

Do you have debugging enabled?

> I was wondering if switching to CF Enterprise would make a difference?
>  Or, if a switch to Enterprise with a different backend, besides JRun,
> would be faster?  Or should I put the money into a new web server or
> 2, and start running a load balanced site?

How far have you optimized your CF settings? Did you tweak any of 
the Java parameters?

> I am pretty sure that SQL Server is not the culprit in all of this. 
> Its average time to return a query, at least according to the CF
> performance monitor, is around 35 msec.  And IIS doesn't seem to be at
> fault since we are timing the CF code itself, and I can see that it is
> slow.  And like I said earlier, we have gone through the code line by
> line pruning and tweaking, so I don't think (or I am hoping it isn't)
> the code is to blame.

Can you provide the 'worst case code' so we can have a look? What 
is the load on the system (CPU and I/O percentages)?

Jochem
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RE: Server Performance

2002-10-28 Thread A.Little
On CF5 (and cf4.4 I think- can't remember exactly) in the CF admin pages and
go to 'logging settings' (under the tools option in the top left). On that
page you can set the server to record pages which take longer that x
seconds.

hth,

Alex

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> Subject: Server Performance
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Some application/request is killing my server (running intranet). And
> almost everyweek my server stops working (for intranet) and 
> when I check
> the server there is message "OUT OF VIRTUAL MEMORY". I want to log all
> applications which are taking longer than 2 minutes (to find the
> culprite one). 
> How can I log all requests for my intranet which are taking 
> more than X
> time and also that would be great if I define time span as well. That
> logs TIME and NAME/URL for page which are taking more than 2 minutes
> from 28th Oct o 30th Oct and on 30th I'll check log file and 
> sort it by
> time.
> 
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Re: Server Performance

2002-10-28 Thread Stephen Moretti
Go look in the CF administrator under logging

You should find a setting in there that allows you to "Log slow pages taking
longer than n seconds"

Tick the box and set the number of seconds to 120 seconds.

Stephen

- Original Message -
From: "Shahzad.Butt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: Server Performance


> Hi
>
> Some application/request is killing my server (running intranet). And
> almost everyweek my server stops working (for intranet) and when I check
> the server there is message "OUT OF VIRTUAL MEMORY". I want to log all
> applications which are taking longer than 2 minutes (to find the
> culprite one).
> How can I log all requests for my intranet which are taking more than X
> time and also that would be great if I define time span as well. That
> logs TIME and NAME/URL for page which are taking more than 2 minutes
> from 28th Oct o 30th Oct and on 30th I'll check log file and sort it by
> time.
>
> Shahzad Butt (Development Engineer)
>
> JJ FastFood Distribution Ltd.
> Office:  +44 (0) 1992 701 722
> Mobile: +44 (0) 7803 584 873
> Fax: +44 (0) 1992 701 604
>
> 7 Solar Way, Innova Park, Enfield, London, EN3 7XY
>
>
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