Re: Update: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1
It seems the number one issue with MX 6.1 is that it doesn't handle issues gracefully. Whereas CF 5 would restart after x unresponsive requests (and that restart was fast). MX will never restart and problems appear to compound on top of each other, often rendering the server unresponsive, yet running. While it also true that CF 5 often masked serious issues with that behavior, it also seems that the current situation isn't necessarily an improvement. Just some random thoughts... - Calvin - Original Message - From: Mike Kear To: CF-Talk Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 6:54 PM Subject: Update: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1 It looks as though we might at last have identified the culprit:After our Sysadmin spent ages searching the forums about stalled servers, we thought it might be our mail server, since we're also getting mail issues.So on Friday we stopped the SMTP server and left everything else alone. Now on Monday morning, the sites are all still running fine - in fact they're running fast - and everything else seems to be operating normally.I checked nervously a dozen times during the weekend and everything remained going well. So .. while the jury's still out, it doesn't look good for the SMTP server. More detailed information once we have finally determined that's the cause. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2003 5:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1 Well we have major issues with our server locking up every day.EVERY Day. [snip] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Update: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1
Mike, I am glad to hear that you have identified the problem. What exactly do you mean by stopped the SMTP server? How exactly does the SMTP server relate to your CFMX server? Do you use CFMAIL in your application?Was mail going out? Was there any errors in the mail log?Was the server hanging? Did you specify a backup SMTP server (if running Enterprise)? Do you have a template that can reproduce the problem? Looking forward to more info. -- Tom Jordahl Macromedia -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 3:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Update: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1 It looks as though we might at last have identified the culprit:After our Sysadmin spent ages searching the forums about stalled servers, we thought it might be our mail server, since we're also getting mail issues.So on Friday we stopped the SMTP server and left everything else alone. Now on Monday morning, the sites are all still running fine - in fact they're running fast - and everything else seems to be operating normally.I checked nervously a dozen times during the weekend and everything remained going well. So .. while the jury's still out, it doesn't look good for the SMTP server. More detailed information once we have finally determined that's the cause. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2003 5:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1 Well we have major issues with our server locking up every day.EVERY Day. [snip] [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Update: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1
Tom, thanks for your interest in this issue. First of all let me say that I've had my dev server running flawlessly since installation.I also have clients who have dev servers running CFMX6.1 without problems.So I'm not beating up on CFMX. But there are also lots of people who are having problems, and no one seems to have solutions.My Sysadmin and I have looked around forums including this one, and there are quite a few people who have the same (or perhaps just similar) issues. After a while, CFMX just stops, and brings the whole server to a halt. In our case, jrun.exe grew and grew until there was no space left and it strangled the server.We would reboot the server and everything would be fine.4-5 hours later, everything's stopped again. So .. we started a program of leaving one component of the web server out of the mix each time to see if we could find the culprit that way.I wrote that message the other day when we had started everything except the SMTP server and we'd had nearly 3 days without the box locking up.Now I don't know exactly how the SMTP server related to this issue, but all I know is when SMTP was stopped, the box kept running. (I am but one reseller of several on this box, and the sysadmin isn't subscribed to CF-TALK which is why I post messages here on his behalf.I'm not in a position to say whether the problem could be caused by one of the other users' CF code, but I know I use CFMAIL for simple things.)So we've installed a new mail server last night, and the jury is still deliberating on whether that's working better. I would like if someone from Macromedia would be talking directly to the Sysadmin so more complete and reliable information about the configuration and logs etc can be passed. My reason for posting anything here on CF-Talk about this was NOT to thump Macromedia or to pour scorn on CFMX6.1, because I think it's a great product.I'm currently working on a big project on a very large site that's being rebuilt in CFMX.No problems there either.No, I posted because it was obvious to me that while most CFMX6.1 installations were very robust, there were some that were nothing but problems, and there was areal shortage of solutions around. Looks like that's going to change now, and that's a good thing. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -Original Message- From: Tom Jordahl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2003 12:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Update: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1 Mike, I am glad to hear that you have identified the problem. What exactly do you mean by stopped the SMTP server? How exactly does the SMTP server relate to your CFMX server? Do you use CFMAIL in your application?Was mail going out? Was there any errors in the mail log?Was the server hanging? Did you specify a backup SMTP server (if running Enterprise)? Do you have a template that can reproduce the problem? Looking forward to more info. -- Tom Jordahl Macromedia [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Update: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1
Could be some funky use of CFPOP that is causing a problem. I can't think of any other reason the SMTP would be involved. Is there anyone on the box using CFPOP extensively? Maybe to download large quantities of emails + attachments. Or using a COM object to parse bounced email or something like that. Just a thought.. Brook At 05:53 PM 11/3/2003, you wrote: Tom, thanks for your interest in this issue. First of all let me say that I've had my dev server running flawlessly since installation.I also have clients who have dev servers running CFMX6.1 without problems.So I'm not beating up on CFMX. But there are also lots of people who are having problems, and no one seems to have solutions.My Sysadmin and I have looked around forums including this one, and there are quite a few people who have the same (or perhaps just similar) issues. After a while, CFMX just stops, and brings the whole server to a halt. In our case, jrun.exe grew and grew until there was no space left and it strangled the server.We would reboot the server and everything would be fine.4-5 hours later, everything's stopped again. So .. we started a program of leaving one component of the web server out of the mix each time to see if we could find the culprit that way.I wrote that message the other day when we had started everything except the SMTP server and we'd had nearly 3 days without the box locking up.Now I don't know exactly how the SMTP server related to this issue, but all I know is when SMTP was stopped, the box kept running. (I am but one reseller of several on this box, and the sysadmin isn't subscribed to CF-TALK which is why I post messages here on his behalf.I'm not in a position to say whether the problem could be caused by one of the other users' CF code, but I know I use CFMAIL for simple things.)So we've installed a new mail server last night, and the jury is still deliberating on whether that's working better. I would like if someone from Macromedia would be talking directly to the Sysadmin so more complete and reliable information about the configuration and logs etc can be passed. My reason for posting anything here on CF-Talk about this was NOT to thump Macromedia or to pour scorn on CFMX6.1, because I think it's a great product.I'm currently working on a big project on a very large site that's being rebuilt in CFMX.No problems there either.No, I posted because it was obvious to me that while most CFMX6.1 installations were very robust, there were some that were nothing but problems, and there was areal shortage of solutions around. Looks like that's going to change now, and that's a good thing. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. -Original Message- From: Tom Jordahl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2003 12:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Update: Memory Leak on Win2k/CMX6.1 Mike, I am glad to hear that you have identified the problem. What exactly do you mean by stopped the SMTP server? How exactly does the SMTP server relate to your CFMX server? Do you use CFMAIL in your application?Was mail going out? Was there any errors in the mail log?Was the server hanging? Did you specify a backup SMTP server (if running Enterprise)? Do you have a template that can reproduce the problem? Looking forward to more info. -- Tom Jordahl Macromedia -- [ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
