Re: asp.net...yuk
Can this conversation be moved to cf-community?PLEASE? - Original Message - From: Dan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:43 pm Subject: asp.net...yuk It's not an issue of not liking learning new things. The issue is whether or not the new thing you are learning is likeable. And in this case likeable, fun, efficient, suitable, ease of use etc...which in my opinion asp.net fails on most counts for most small to medium web projects... which lucky for me, is where I'm at. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: asp.net...yuk
This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! Ray At 05:55 PM 3/29/2004, Kwang Suh wrote: Can this conversation be moved to cf-community?PLEASE? - Original Message - From: Dan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:43 pm Subject: asp.net...yuk It's not an issue of not liking learning new things. The issue is whether or not the new thing you are learning is likeable. And in this case likeable, fun, efficient, suitable, ease of use etc...which in my opinion asp.net fails on most counts for most small to medium web projects... which lucky for me, is where I'm at. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: asp.net...yuk
Cf-talk = specific technical inquiries (or major event discussions around CF, can't help this) CF-Community = Philosophical discussions and anything else Stace :D _ From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: asp.net...yuk This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! Ray At 05:55 PM 3/29/2004, Kwang Suh wrote: Can this conversation be moved to cf-community?PLEASE? - Original Message - From: Dan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:43 pm Subject: asp.net...yuk It's not an issue of not liking learning new things. The issue is whether or not the new thing you are learning is likeable. And in this case likeable, fun, efficient, suitable, ease of use etc...which in my opinion asp.net fails on most counts for most small to medium web projects... which lucky for me, is where I'm at. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: asp.net...yuk
CF-Talk is a list for the CF community to talk about CF.CF-Community is a list for the CF community to talk about whatever the hell it wants (more or less). Cheers, barneyb -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: asp.net...yuk This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! Ray At 05:55 PM 3/29/2004, Kwang Suh wrote: Can this conversation be moved to cf-community?PLEASE? - Original Message - From: Dan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:43 pm Subject: asp.net...yuk It's not an issue of not liking learning new things. The issue is whether or not the new thing you are learning is likeable. And in this case likeable, fun, efficient, suitable, ease of use etc...which in my opinion asp.net fails on most counts for most small to medium web projects... which lucky for me, is where I'm at. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: asp.net...yuk
CF-COMMUNITY is rarely techie from what I have seen. Lots of conversations about politics, news, jokes, etc... I love when people complain about a topic being too non cf-talk and they feel the need to respond, only adding to the total number of threads and replies on the very topic they were initially complaining about! Haha. :-) CF v. .NET seems legit to me on here as long as CF remains part of the discussion; but then again, Mikey D may think otherwise and drop kick this thread into the CF-COMMUNITY. We shall see. I feel as though the more you can learn, the better off you are. Technology changes so fast and the more tools you have in your box the better. I love CF and it is the right tool for a lot of jobs, just as .NET offers the right tools for a lot of jobs. The thing to remember is that you realy limit yourself if you limit your skills. I say try and learn it all, some things faster than others and some things more in depth than others, but damn, get your feet wet at least... It might just save you that cross country relocation because you can not find a CF job in your area. :-) My 2 cents. Mike This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: asp.net...yuk
Perfectly stated :-) CF-Talk is a list for the CF community to talk about CF. CF-Community is a list for the CF community to talk about whatever the hell it wants (more or less). Cheers, barneyb [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: asp.net...yuk
Not following ya Dan... It's called some people are anal retentive. Probably MS folks. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: asp.net...yuk
That is the best answer I have gotten yet. Is the delete button really that hard to operate?I could see the complaint if we were discussing Wil Ferrell's new movie, but this is a slightly OT convo about CF vs. MS. I agree with Dan Ray At 06:24 PM 3/29/2004, Dan Farmer wrote: It's called some people are anal retentive. Probably MS folks. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:16:12 -0500 CF-COMMUNITY is rarely techie from what I have seen. Lots of conversations about politics, news, jokes, etc... I love when people complain about a topic being too non cf-talk and they feel the need to respond, only adding to the total number of threads and replies on the very topic they were initially complaining about! Haha. :-) CF v. .NET seems legit to me on here as long as CF remains part of the discussion; but then again, Mikey D may think otherwise and drop kick this thread into the CF-COMMUNITY. We shall see. I feel as though the more you can learn, the better off you are. Technology changes so fast and the more tools you have in your box the better. I love CF and it is the right tool for a lot of jobs, just as .NET offers the right tools for a lot of jobs. The thing to remember is that you realy limit yourself if you limit your skills. I say try and learn it all, some things faster than others and some things more in depth than others, but damn, get your feet wet at least... It might just save you that cross country relocation because you can not find a CF job in your area. :-) My 2 cents. Mike This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RE: asp.net...yuk
If someone wants to have a reasonable conversation about ASP.NET vs. CF, fine.If someone wants to bash ASP.NET and provide no reasons why it's yukky, well, where's the value in that?How many CF is better insert technology here threads do we need? - Original Message - From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:16 pm Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk CF-COMMUNITY is rarely techie from what I have seen. Lots of conversationsabout politics, news, jokes, etc... I love when people complain about a topic being too non cf-talk and they feel the need to respond, only adding to the total number of threads and replies on the very topic they were initially complaining about! Haha. :-) CF v. .NET seems legit to me on here as long as CF remains part of the discussion; but then again, Mikey D may think otherwise and drop kick this thread into the CF-COMMUNITY. We shall see. I feel as though the more you can learn, the better off you are. Technologychanges so fast and the more tools you have in your box the better. I love CF and it is the right tool for a lot of jobs, just as .NET offers the right tools for a lot of jobs. The thing to remember is that you realy limit yourself if you limit your skills. I say try and learn it all, some things faster than others and some things more in depth than others, but damn, get your feet wet at least... It might just save you that cross country relocation because you can not find a CF job in your area. :-) My 2 cents. Mike This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RE: asp.net...yuk
Hey Kwang, you've had a pickle up your butt for about three months now... why not settle down and just enjoy the list instead? __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 From: Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: asp.net...yuk Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:25:44 -0700 If someone wants to have a reasonable conversation about ASP.NET vs. CF, fine.If someone wants to bash ASP.NET and provide no reasons why it's yukky, well, where's the value in that?How many CF is better insert technology here threads do we need? - Original Message - From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:16 pm Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk CF-COMMUNITY is rarely techie from what I have seen. Lots of conversationsabout politics, news, jokes, etc... I love when people complain about a topic being too non cf-talk and they feel the need to respond, only adding to the total number of threads and replies on the very topic they were initially complaining about! Haha. :-) CF v. .NET seems legit to me on here as long as CF remains part of the discussion; but then again, Mikey D may think otherwise and drop kick this thread into the CF-COMMUNITY. We shall see. I feel as though the more you can learn, the better off you are. Technologychanges so fast and the more tools you have in your box the better. I love CF and it is the right tool for a lot of jobs, just as .NET offers the right tools for a lot of jobs. The thing to remember is that you realy limit yourself if you limit your skills. I say try and learn it all, some things faster than others and some things more in depth than others, but damn, get your feet wet at least... It might just save you that cross country relocation because you can not find a CF job in your area. :-) My 2 cents. Mike This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RE: asp.net...yuk
There's a mention in Dan's original message about CF?News to me: It's not an issue of not liking learning new things. The issue is whether or not the new thing you are learning is likeable. And in this case likeable, fun, efficient, suitable, ease of use etc...which in my opinion asp.net fails on most counts for most small to medium web projects... which lucky for me, is where I'm at. Where's CF mentioned here? - Original Message - From: Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:27 pm Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk That is the best answer I have gotten yet. Is the delete button really that hard to operate?I could see the complaint if we were discussing Wil Ferrell's new movie, but this is a slightly OT convo about CF vs. MS. I agree with Dan Ray At 06:24 PM 3/29/2004, Dan Farmer wrote: It's called some people are anal retentive. Probably MS folks. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:16:12 -0500 CF-COMMUNITY is rarely techie from what I have seen. Lots of conversations about politics, news, jokes, etc... I love when people complain about a topic being too non cf- talk and they feel the need to respond, only adding to the total number of threads and replies on the very topic they were initially complaining about! Haha. :-) CF v. .NET seems legit to me on here as long as CF remains part of the discussion; but then again, Mikey D may think otherwise and drop kick this thread into the CF-COMMUNITY. We shall see. I feel as though the more you can learn, the better off you are. Technology changes so fast and the more tools you have in your box the better. I love CF and it is the right tool for a lot of jobs, just as .NET offers the right tools for a lot of jobs. The thing to remember is that you realy limit yourself if you limit your skills. I say try and learn it all, some things faster than others and some things more in depth than others, but damn, get your feet wet at least... It might just save you that cross country relocation because you can not find a CF job in your area. :-) My 2 cents. Mike This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: RE: asp.net...yuk
Wow. Simmer down dude. Are we going to debate the validity of each and every reply? -Original Message- From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: RE: asp.net...yuk There's a mention in Dan's original message about CF?News to me: It's not an issue of not liking learning new things. The issue is whether or not the new thing you are learning is likeable. And in this case likeable, fun, efficient, suitable, ease of use etc...which in my opinion asp.net fails on most counts for most small to medium web projects... which lucky for me, is where I'm at. Where's CF mentioned here? - Original Message - From: Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:27 pm Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk That is the best answer I have gotten yet. Is the delete button really that hard to operate?I could see the complaint if we were discussing Wil Ferrell's new movie, but this is a slightly OT convo about CF vs. MS. I agree with Dan Ray At 06:24 PM 3/29/2004, Dan Farmer wrote: It's called some people are anal retentive. Probably MS folks. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:16:12 -0500 CF-COMMUNITY is rarely techie from what I have seen. Lots of conversations about politics, news, jokes, etc... I love when people complain about a topic being too non cf- talk and they feel the need to respond, only adding to the total number of threads and replies on the very topic they were initially complaining about! Haha. :-) CF v. .NET seems legit to me on here as long as CF remains part of the discussion; but then again, Mikey D may think otherwise and drop kick this thread into the CF-COMMUNITY. We shall see. I feel as though the more you can learn, the better off you are. Technology changes so fast and the more tools you have in your box the better. I love CF and it is the right tool for a lot of jobs, just as .NET offers the right tools for a lot of jobs. The thing to remember is that you realy limit yourself if you limit your skills. I say try and learn it all, some things faster than others and some things more in depth than others, but damn, get your feet wet at least... It might just save you that cross country relocation because you can not find a CF job in your area. :-) My 2 cents. Mike This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RE: asp.net...yuk
DUDE, please.You are picking at anything right now.While it was not explicitly stated in that email, I think that everyone here made the assumption that the 'likeable, fun, efficient, suitable, ease of use' did not mean FORTRAN. Time to go home before this nasty case of the Monday blahs get me booted off this list before I have had a real chance to enjoy it. Ray At 06:35 PM 3/29/2004, Kwang Suh wrote: There's a mention in Dan's original message about CF?News to me: It's not an issue of not liking learning new things. The issue is whether or not the new thing you are learning is likeable. And in this case likeable, fun, efficient, suitable, ease of use etc...which in my opinion asp.net fails on most counts for most small to medium web projects... which lucky for me, is where I'm at. Where's CF mentioned here? - Original Message - From: Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:27 pm Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk That is the best answer I have gotten yet. Is the delete button really that hard to operate?I could see the complaint if we were discussing Wil Ferrell's new movie, but this is a slightly OT convo about CF vs. MS. I agree with Dan Ray At 06:24 PM 3/29/2004, Dan Farmer wrote: It's called some people are anal retentive. Probably MS folks. __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:16:12 -0500 CF-COMMUNITY is rarely techie from what I have seen. Lots of conversations about politics, news, jokes, etc... I love when people complain about a topic being too non cf- talk and they feel the need to respond, only adding to the total number of threads and replies on the very topic they were initially complaining about! Haha. :-) CF v. .NET seems legit to me on here as long as CF remains part of the discussion; but then again, Mikey D may think otherwise and drop kick this thread into the CF-COMMUNITY. We shall see. I feel as though the more you can learn, the better off you are. Technology changes so fast and the more tools you have in your box the better. I love CF and it is the right tool for a lot of jobs, just as .NET offers the right tools for a lot of jobs. The thing to remember is that you realy limit yourself if you limit your skills. I say try and learn it all, some things faster than others and some things more in depth than others, but damn, get your feet wet at least... It might just save you that cross country relocation because you can not find a CF job in your area. :-) My 2 cents. Mike This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: RE: asp.net...yuk
Then don't insult people on the list. - Original Message - From: Dan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:37 pm Subject: Re: RE: asp.net...yuk Hey Kwang, you've had a pickle up your butt for about three months now... why not settle down and just enjoy the list instead? __ Daniel Farmer Producer / Coldfusion Developer http://www.bernardclark.com/danfarmer.ca P: 613.284.1684 From: Kwang Suh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: asp.net...yuk Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:25:44 -0700 If someone wants to have a reasonable conversation about ASP.NET vs. CF, fine.If someone wants to bash ASP.NET and provide no reasons why it's yukky, well, where's the value in that?How many CF is better insert technology here threads do we need? - Original Message - From: Michael T. Tangorre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:16 pm Subject: RE: asp.net...yuk CF-COMMUNITY is rarely techie from what I have seen. Lots of conversationsabout politics, news, jokes, etc... I love when people complain about a topic being too non cf-talk and they feel the need to respond, only adding to the total number of threads and replies on the very topic they were initially complaining about! Haha. :-) CF v. .NET seems legit to me on here as long as CF remains part of the discussion; but then again, Mikey D may think otherwise and drop kick this thread into the CF-COMMUNITY. We shall see. I feel as though the more you can learn, the better off you are. Technologychanges so fast and the more tools you have in your box the better. I love CF and it is the right tool for a lot of jobs, just as .NET offers the right tools for a lot of jobs. The thing to remember is that you realy limit yourself if you limit your skills. I say try and learn it all, some things faster than others and some things more in depth than others, but damn, get your feet wet at least... It might just save you that cross country relocation because you can not find a CF job in your area. :-) My 2 cents. Mike This isn't CF-Talk?Sounds like it has all the world to do with CF, and people seem to want to talk about it. While we're at it, what is the difference between CF-Talk and CF-Community?Sounds pretty redundant, which is good in the techie world, but not in the human world Just looking for clarification! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
