Re: ACF10 32 - 64 bit

2015-03-05 Thread Dave Watts

 Hi. So we're moving from ACF10 32 bit to ACF10 64 bit. On ACF10 32 bit, we
 settled on:

 Minimum JVM Heap Size (in MB)1369
 Maximum JVM Heap Size (in MB)1369

 On the ACF10 64 bit box, we have 32 GB of RAM to play with. Given that this
 box is just:

 ACF10
 The OS (Windows Server 2012)
 FusionReactor

 ...what's the best recommendation(s) for min/max heap to guarantee ACF10
 always has as much RAM as it could possible want/need?

This question requires more information. How much memory did your
application use in the 32-bit environment? Were you having
out-of-memory issues in the old enviroment?

Just because you have loads of memory doesn't mean you want CF to have
to manage it all, unless it's going to use it.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
1-202-527-9569
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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(SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

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Re: ACF10 32 - 64 bit

2015-03-05 Thread Dave Watts

   Hi. So we're moving from ACF10 32 bit to ACF10 64 bit. On ACF10 32 bit,
   we settled on:
  
   Minimum JVM Heap Size (in MB)1369
   Maximum JVM Heap Size (in MB)1369
  
   On the ACF10 64 bit box, we have 32 GB of RAM to play with. Given that
   this box is just:
  
   ACF10
   The OS (Windows Server 2012)
   FusionReactor
  
   ...what's the best recommendation(s) for min/max heap to guarantee ACF10
   always has as much RAM as it could possible want/need?
 
  This question requires more information. How much memory did your
  application use in the 32-bit environment? Were you having
  out-of-memory issues in the old enviroment?
 
  Just because you have loads of memory doesn't mean you want CF to have
  to manage it all, unless it's going to use it.

 In the last week, we maxed out at 960 MB.

OK, so maybe you'd leave the minimum heap size right around where it
is now, and increase the maximum by 1.5 or 2 times the current value -
these are just guesses, of course. See how that works, then change
accordingly.

If you're using Java 8 (which you can with the latest CF patches), you
might want to look at your PermGen settings, as Java 8 doesn't really
have a permanent generation any more.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
1-202-527-9569
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
(SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

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Re: ACF10 32 - 64 bit

2015-03-05 Thread John M Bliss

In the old days, the wisdom was to make min and max match so that CF
wasn't spending horsepower constantly re-sizing the heap. Is that no
longer true?

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


Hi. So we're moving from ACF10 32 bit to ACF10 64 bit. On ACF10 32
 bit,
we settled on:
   
Minimum JVM Heap Size (in MB)1369
Maximum JVM Heap Size (in MB)1369
   
On the ACF10 64 bit box, we have 32 GB of RAM to play with. Given
 that
this box is just:
   
ACF10
The OS (Windows Server 2012)
FusionReactor
   
...what's the best recommendation(s) for min/max heap to guarantee
 ACF10
always has as much RAM as it could possible want/need?
  
   This question requires more information. How much memory did your
   application use in the 32-bit environment? Were you having
   out-of-memory issues in the old enviroment?
  
   Just because you have loads of memory doesn't mean you want CF to have
   to manage it all, unless it's going to use it.
 
  In the last week, we maxed out at 960 MB.

 OK, so maybe you'd leave the minimum heap size right around where it
 is now, and increase the maximum by 1.5 or 2 times the current value -
 these are just guesses, of course. See how that works, then change
 accordingly.

 If you're using Java 8 (which you can with the latest CF patches), you
 might want to look at your PermGen settings, as Java 8 doesn't really
 have a permanent generation any more.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
 (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
 authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: ACF10 32 - 64 bit

2015-03-05 Thread John M Bliss

In the last week, we maxed out at 960 MB.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:


  Hi. So we're moving from ACF10 32 bit to ACF10 64 bit. On ACF10 32 bit,
 we
  settled on:
 
  Minimum JVM Heap Size (in MB)1369
  Maximum JVM Heap Size (in MB)1369
 
  On the ACF10 64 bit box, we have 32 GB of RAM to play with. Given that
 this
  box is just:
 
  ACF10
  The OS (Windows Server 2012)
  FusionReactor
 
  ...what's the best recommendation(s) for min/max heap to guarantee ACF10
  always has as much RAM as it could possible want/need?

 This question requires more information. How much memory did your
 application use in the 32-bit environment? Were you having
 out-of-memory issues in the old enviroment?

 Just because you have loads of memory doesn't mean you want CF to have
 to manage it all, unless it's going to use it.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business
 (SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
 authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.

 

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Re: ACF10 32 - 64 bit

2015-03-05 Thread Dave Watts

 In the old days, the wisdom was to make min and max match so that CF
 wasn't spending horsepower constantly re-sizing the heap. Is that no
 longer true?

It's never been true, in an unqualified sense. That's why they give
you two fields. Any place there's a choice in the CF Administrator,
it's there for a reason.

There is a cost to constantly increasing the heap size over time.
There is also a cost to starting with a large heap when you're not
currently using that much.

What's the right value for you? Only load testing can tell you for
sure. Anyone who tells you that they can give you the correct value
for a configuration field in all situations is wrong.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
1-202-527-9569
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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(SDVOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-
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