RE: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J

And yet it isn't visible on the main adobe page. As a matter of fact if you go 
to products it isn't listed there. Even when you click see all products.

You see an ad for Adobe Marketing Cloud... Maybe they should use that to let 
everyone know the product still exists. The website certainly doesn't do it.


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Subject: CF11... Live?


So did anyone else notice that CF11 is live as of today?

http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-family.html




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RE: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread Robert Harrison

 And yet it isn't visible on the main adobe page. As a matter of fact if you 
 go to products it isn't listed there. Even when you click see all products.

I just don't get Adobe at all. I'm so disappointed in them. 

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Re: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread Russ Michaels

I would imagine it simply isn't official yet, they have to get the website
sorted before they make an announcement


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com
 wrote:


  And yet it isn't visible on the main adobe page. As a matter of fact if
 you go to products it isn't listed there. Even when you click see all
 products.

 I just don't get Adobe at all. I'm so disappointed in them.

 Robert Harrison
 Director of Interactive Services

 Austin  Williams
 Advertising I Branding I Digital I Direct
 125 Kennedy Drive,  Suite 100   I  Hauppauge, NY 11788
 T 631.231.6600 X 119   F 631.434.7022
 http://www.austin-williams.com

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 Twitter:  http://www.twitter.com/austin_

 

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RE: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J

Ok, I could sort of understand that, however ColdFusion is an existing product 
why would you remove it from the See All Products link? You can bet they 
wouldn't do that for a new version of Creative Cloud!



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I would imagine it simply isn't official yet, they have to get the website
sorted before they make an announcement


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Re: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread Bruce Sorge

You have to dig into their products catalog to find it right now:
http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog.html?promoid=JOOTH


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:19 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J sd1...@att.com wrote:


 Ok, I could sort of understand that, however ColdFusion is an existing
 product why would you remove it from the See All Products link? You can bet
 they wouldn't do that for a new version of Creative Cloud!





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Re: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread Adam Cameron

It hasn't been on that page for ages (like: an amount of time better
measured in years than months). it's on www.adobe.com  Products  See all
products  View our complete products and services catalog

-- 
Adam


On 29 April 2014 15:19, DURETTE, STEVEN J sd1...@att.com wrote:


 Ok, I could sort of understand that, however ColdFusion is an existing
 product why would you remove it from the See All Products link? You can bet
 they wouldn't do that for a new version of Creative Cloud!



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 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:08 AM
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 Subject: Re: CF11... Live?


 I would imagine it simply isn't official yet, they have to get the website
 sorted before they make an announcement


 

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Re: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread Justin Scott

 I just don't get Adobe at all. I'm so disappointed in them.

The tone of the announcement blog entry pretty much sums it up...  the
new features don't excite me.  They list mobile development, language
enhancements, new PDF engine, and security enhancements as the big new
features.  The mobile integration is arguably the big feature for
this release.  I suppose that will be useful for some people.

The big tell, though, is the specific mention of Java 7 Update 55.
They mention it's a big important release for Java 7, but it's not
included in the initial installers because they're working out some
installer integration bug (presumably with Oracle), so Update 51 is
included for now and they'll update the installers later.  Likewise,
The Linux support for the new PDF engine in ColdFusion 11 will be
available through an update within the next few weeks.

By word count, they actually spend more time talking about what isn't
actually in the release yet (Java Update 55 and The Linux PDF update)
and that the CF10 / CFB2 installers will only be available for another
couple of weeks.

It feels like the ColdFusion team just flat ran out of time; that not
everything was ready but they had a hard deadline and had to ship
regardless.  I'm glad Adobe is continuing to support the product, but
I've never felt so meh about a release (and I've been using CF since
version 4).


-Justin

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Re: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread Russ Michaels

it felt that way with CF10 as well, I have not even bothered with CF10, and
that was before I moved to Railo.


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.orgwrote:


  I just don't get Adobe at all. I'm so disappointed in them.

 The tone of the announcement blog entry pretty much sums it up...  the
 new features don't excite me.  They list mobile development, language
 enhancements, new PDF engine, and security enhancements as the big new
 features.  The mobile integration is arguably the big feature for
 this release.  I suppose that will be useful for some people.

 The big tell, though, is the specific mention of Java 7 Update 55.
 They mention it's a big important release for Java 7, but it's not
 included in the initial installers because they're working out some
 installer integration bug (presumably with Oracle), so Update 51 is
 included for now and they'll update the installers later.  Likewise,
 The Linux support for the new PDF engine in ColdFusion 11 will be
 available through an update within the next few weeks.

 By word count, they actually spend more time talking about what isn't
 actually in the release yet (Java Update 55 and The Linux PDF update)
 and that the CF10 / CFB2 installers will only be available for another
 couple of weeks.

 It feels like the ColdFusion team just flat ran out of time; that not
 everything was ready but they had a hard deadline and had to ship
 regardless.  I'm glad Adobe is continuing to support the product, but
 I've never felt so meh about a release (and I've been using CF since
 version 4).


 -Justin

 

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Re: CF11... Live?

2014-04-29 Thread Justin Scott

Speaking of 10, for anyone who manages a CF server or has a license
for Builder 2, go download the installers and put them somewhere safe
before they disappear on May 14.

http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/downloads.html




On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:

 it felt that way with CF10 as well, I have not even bothered with CF10, and
 that was before I moved to Railo.


 On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.orgwrote:


  I just don't get Adobe at all. I'm so disappointed in them.

 The tone of the announcement blog entry pretty much sums it up...  the
 new features don't excite me.  They list mobile development, language
 enhancements, new PDF engine, and security enhancements as the big new
 features.  The mobile integration is arguably the big feature for
 this release.  I suppose that will be useful for some people.

 The big tell, though, is the specific mention of Java 7 Update 55.
 They mention it's a big important release for Java 7, but it's not
 included in the initial installers because they're working out some
 installer integration bug (presumably with Oracle), so Update 51 is
 included for now and they'll update the installers later.  Likewise,
 The Linux support for the new PDF engine in ColdFusion 11 will be
 available through an update within the next few weeks.

 By word count, they actually spend more time talking about what isn't
 actually in the release yet (Java Update 55 and The Linux PDF update)
 and that the CF10 / CFB2 installers will only be available for another
 couple of weeks.

 It feels like the ColdFusion team just flat ran out of time; that not
 everything was ready but they had a hard deadline and had to ship
 regardless.  I'm glad Adobe is continuing to support the product, but
 I've never felt so meh about a release (and I've been using CF since
 version 4).


 -Justin



 

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