Re: Slow CF8 Startup Times
On Tuesday 13 Jan 2009, Mark Richards wrote: I recently stood up CF8 on Linux entirely from scratch and am seeing some extremely slow start-up times. It can take anywhere from 75 seconds to 115 seconds for all the services to fully boot up. Lots of CF templates in the cache that need clearing ? Is there a data source that takes a long time to connect ? Host name in the settings of *something* that doesn't resolve (and also doesn't just exit immediately). -- Tom Chiverton Helping to professionally aggregate magnetic corporate materials This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word partner to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317917 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Slow CF8 Startup Times
Those times aren't that bad. CF takes a while to start up compared to other services. If it takes a minute to get going I would think that is normal. I used to have a dev workstation where CF took at least three minutes to start up every time, which I believe was related to the large number of fonts I had installed. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Richards clemud...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I recently stood up CF8 on Linux entirely from scratch and am seeing some extremely slow start-up times. It can take anywhere from 75 seconds to 115 seconds for all the services to fully boot up. It seems to take an extraordinary amount of time (40+ seconds) to complete 2 of the processes: Starting sql... and user MessageBrokerServlet: init. From my brief tests, it appears that CF is working fine though. Here are the system specs: ColdFusion 8.01 (64-bit, multi-server) Red Hat Linux AS 5.0 (running in a VM) Apache 2.2.9 JDK 1.5.0_16 (we tried JDK 1.6.0_11 too) I've tried changing the JVM the one that ships with CF8 up to 1.6 and down to 1.5 seeing as there are some known issues with 1.6 in a 64-bit environment (although not with the version we tried). Additionally, I've removed all the references to MessageBrokerServlet from web.xml thus preventing that service from even attempting to start. That works fine and reduces the start time dramatically, but I don't think I should have to do that to get this thing to work. I've confirmed that all the software we're using is 64-bit as well. I've also looked in all the logs and have yet to find any errors. My questions: 1. What is the line Starting sql... actually trying to do/what's it used for? I figure if I know that it'll allow me to debug better. 2. Anybody have any ideas how to fix this or figure out the hang up? 3. Could this be port related and how would I determine if it is? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Mark Richards ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317940 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Slow CF8 Startup Times
I was going to say.. CF 8 takes a lot of time compared to 6 and 7. My start up times range from 20-30 seconds on a lite install with nothing but 6 or 8 DSN's on my dev box to ~ a minute on my new(er) laptop. If this is a duel processor quad core box there is something seriously amiss. Did you try removing the DSN's to see if that is the bottle neck? G On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: Those times aren't that bad. CF takes a while to start up compared to other services. If it takes a minute to get going I would think that is normal. I used to have a dev workstation where CF took at least three minutes to start up every time, which I believe was related to the large number of fonts I had installed. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Richards clemud...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I recently stood up CF8 on Linux entirely from scratch and am seeing some extremely slow start-up times. It can take anywhere from 75 seconds to 115 seconds for all the services to fully boot up. It seems to take an extraordinary amount of time (40+ seconds) to complete 2 of the processes: Starting sql... and user MessageBrokerServlet: init. From my brief tests, it appears that CF is working fine though. Here are the system specs: ColdFusion 8.01 (64-bit, multi-server) Red Hat Linux AS 5.0 (running in a VM) Apache 2.2.9 JDK 1.5.0_16 (we tried JDK 1.6.0_11 too) I've tried changing the JVM the one that ships with CF8 up to 1.6 and down to 1.5 seeing as there are some known issues with 1.6 in a 64-bit environment (although not with the version we tried). Additionally, I've removed all the references to MessageBrokerServlet from web.xml thus preventing that service from even attempting to start. That works fine and reduces the start time dramatically, but I don't think I should have to do that to get this thing to work. I've confirmed that all the software we're using is 64-bit as well. I've also looked in all the logs and have yet to find any errors. My questions: 1. What is the line Starting sql... actually trying to do/what's it used for? I figure if I know that it'll allow me to debug better. 2. Anybody have any ideas how to fix this or figure out the hang up? 3. Could this be port related and how would I determine if it is? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Mark Richards ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317944 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Slow CF8 Startup Times
For the fastest start up times, I would recommend Java 1.6_11. Also, make sure report execution times is off in your debugging :oD Mark On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: I was going to say.. CF 8 takes a lot of time compared to 6 and 7. My start up times range from 20-30 seconds on a lite install with nothing but 6 or 8 DSN's on my dev box to ~ a minute on my new(er) laptop. If this is a duel processor quad core box there is something seriously amiss. Did you try removing the DSN's to see if that is the bottle neck? G On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: Those times aren't that bad. CF takes a while to start up compared to other services. If it takes a minute to get going I would think that is normal. I used to have a dev workstation where CF took at least three minutes to start up every time, which I believe was related to the large number of fonts I had installed. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Richards clemud...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I recently stood up CF8 on Linux entirely from scratch and am seeing some extremely slow start-up times. It can take anywhere from 75 seconds to 115 seconds for all the services to fully boot up. It seems to take an extraordinary amount of time (40+ seconds) to complete 2 of the processes: Starting sql... and user MessageBrokerServlet: init. From my brief tests, it appears that CF is working fine though. Here are the system specs: ColdFusion 8.01 (64-bit, multi-server) Red Hat Linux AS 5.0 (running in a VM) Apache 2.2.9 JDK 1.5.0_16 (we tried JDK 1.6.0_11 too) I've tried changing the JVM the one that ships with CF8 up to 1.6 and down to 1.5 seeing as there are some known issues with 1.6 in a 64-bit environment (although not with the version we tried). Additionally, I've removed all the references to MessageBrokerServlet from web.xml thus preventing that service from even attempting to start. That works fine and reduces the start time dramatically, but I don't think I should have to do that to get this thing to work. I've confirmed that all the software we're using is 64-bit as well. I've also looked in all the logs and have yet to find any errors. My questions: 1. What is the line Starting sql... actually trying to do/what's it used for? I figure if I know that it'll allow me to debug better. 2. Anybody have any ideas how to fix this or figure out the hang up? 3. Could this be port related and how would I determine if it is? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Mark Richards ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317960 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
