Re: Solr Summary Text

[Victor Moore]

Dean,

I will greatly appreciated if you can find them. I have looked
everywhere and nothing pops up as obvious.
There a number of people having the same issue in the last few months
but no definitive answer and (unfortunately) Adobe is not very
helpful. If anything the docs are wrong as ContextBytes has no effect.
One will think that after 2+years since the product was released they
will at least update the docs.

Regards
Victor

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>
> Hey Victor,
>
> Yes, I was finally able to get this working. If I remember correctly,
> it was a combination of editing the schema.xml and the solrconfig.xml
> files. However, I don't remember what updates I actually made. I will
> try to compare my backup files with the live files that are working.
> I'm pretty swamped over the next couple of days, but I will try to
> post my results as soon as I can.
>
> Dean
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Victor Moore  wrote:
>>
>> Dean,
>>
>> did you find a solution to this?  I have cf 901 with CHF901 installed
>> and no luck
>>
>> Regards
>> Victor
>>
>
> --
> ---
> Dean M. Lawrence
> INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY
> p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701
> w // www.idatatech.com
> f // www.facebook.com/idatatech
> t // www.twitter.com/idatatech
>
> Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Developmen
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347540
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Victor Moore]

I will check it out and let you know.
You are right, kind of disappointing that some many things were left
out of the cf9 implementation of solr .

Thank you Sir
Victor

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Dan Baughman  wrote:
>
> You can change solr's configuration through editing its text file to include
> the context when the entries in that collection are updated.
>
> I can't recall off the top of my head how to do this, but I can you can dig
> around on google for "adding context to solr coldfusion 9" or something.
>
> They say the reason they excluded that is because it makes the index much
> smaller to omit the context and only include the title. I guess I see
> their point but in my experience it would save me tons of time if they would
> just enable it by default.
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Victor Moore wrote:
>
>>
>> Dean,
>>
>> did you find a solution to this?  I have cf 901 with CHF901 installed
>> and no luck
>>
>> Regards
>> Victo

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347535
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dean Lawrence]

Hey Victor,

Yes, I was finally able to get this working. If I remember correctly,
it was a combination of editing the schema.xml and the solrconfig.xml
files. However, I don't remember what updates I actually made. I will
try to compare my backup files with the live files that are working.
I'm pretty swamped over the next couple of days, but I will try to
post my results as soon as I can.

Dean

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Victor Moore  wrote:
>
> Dean,
>
> did you find a solution to this?  I have cf 901 with CHF901 installed
> and no luck
>
> Regards
> Victor
>

-- 
---
Dean M. Lawrence
INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY
p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701
w // www.idatatech.com
f // www.facebook.com/idatatech
t // www.twitter.com/idatatech

Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Developmen

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347534
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dan Baughman]

You can change solr's configuration through editing its text file to include
the context when the entries in that collection are updated.

I can't recall off the top of my head how to do this, but I can you can dig
around on google for "adding context to solr coldfusion 9" or something.

They say the reason they excluded that is because it makes the index much
smaller to omit the context and only include the title. I guess I see
their point but in my experience it would save me tons of time if they would
just enable it by default.

Dan

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Victor Moore wrote:

>
> Dean,
>
> did you find a solution to this?  I have cf 901 with CHF901 installed
> and no luck
>
> Regards
> Victor
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe so. I'll have to double check. I did look at the
> > release notes though and did not see anything related to Solr. If I
> > don't have the newest CHF installed, I will try to get it installed
> > this evening to see if that changes anything.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Raymond Camden 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ah ok - thanks for the clarification. You mentioned 901. Are you also
> >> running the CHF?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> ---
> > Dean M. Lawrence
> > INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY
> > p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701
> > w // www.idatatech.com
> > f // www.facebook.com/idatatech
> > t // www.twitter.com/idatatech
> >
> > Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development
> >
> >
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347533
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Victor Moore]

Dean,

did you find a solution to this?  I have cf 901 with CHF901 installed
and no luck

Regards
Victor

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>
> I don't believe so. I'll have to double check. I did look at the
> release notes though and did not see anything related to Solr. If I
> don't have the newest CHF installed, I will try to get it installed
> this evening to see if that changes anything.
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:
>>
>> Ah ok - thanks for the clarification. You mentioned 901. Are you also
>> running the CHF?
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ---
> Dean M. Lawrence
> INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY
> p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701
> w // www.idatatech.com
> f // www.facebook.com/idatatech
> t // www.twitter.com/idatatech
>
> Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347532
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dean Lawrence]

I don't believe so. I'll have to double check. I did look at the
release notes though and did not see anything related to Solr. If I
don't have the newest CHF installed, I will try to get it installed
this evening to see if that changes anything.

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:
>
> Ah ok - thanks for the clarification. You mentioned 901. Are you also
> running the CHF?
>
>


-- 
---
Dean M. Lawrence
INTERNET DATA TECHNOLOGY
p // 888.438.4381 ext. 701
w // www.idatatech.com
f // www.facebook.com/idatatech
t // www.twitter.com/idatatech

Social Marketing | SEO | Design | Internet Development

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343095
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Raymond Camden]

Ah ok - thanks for the clarification. You mentioned 901. Are you also
running the CHF?


On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>
> Hey Ray,
>
> I am actually just looking for something that is usable to display
> back to the end-user. When I mentioned the information that was
> appearing in the summary and context columns, I was only stating what
> I was seeing in a dump of collections. For me, I don't really care if
> the descriptive text that I show with the search results comes from
> summary or context column, just that it is there somewhere. I'm not
> trying to do anything fancy with suggestions or previous searches or
> anything like that. I just want to query the collection and return a
> list of results showing the document title and some copy of what the
> document contains. If you have any additional insight into any way
> that I can tweak this, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, the contextPassages does not seem to work with Solr.
>>> When using it against a verity collection, but the summary and context
>>> columns are populated with the same text which is properly being
>>> controlled by the contextPassages setting. However, when I try the
>>> exact same settings against a Solr collection, the summary column
>>> still has very limited information in it and the context column is
>>> empty.
>>
>> I want to pick up on one small point here. Obviously you want context
>> to have data in it. But it seemed as if you were saying you also
>> wanted context to equal summary since it does Verity. You don't really
>> want that, do you?
>>
>> -r
>>
>>
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343094
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dean Lawrence]

Hey Ray,

I am actually just looking for something that is usable to display
back to the end-user. When I mentioned the information that was
appearing in the summary and context columns, I was only stating what
I was seeing in a dump of collections. For me, I don't really care if
the descriptive text that I show with the search results comes from
summary or context column, just that it is there somewhere. I'm not
trying to do anything fancy with suggestions or previous searches or
anything like that. I just want to query the collection and return a
list of results showing the document title and some copy of what the
document contains. If you have any additional insight into any way
that I can tweak this, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dean

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>> Unfortunately, the contextPassages does not seem to work with Solr.
>> When using it against a verity collection, but the summary and context
>> columns are populated with the same text which is properly being
>> controlled by the contextPassages setting. However, when I try the
>> exact same settings against a Solr collection, the summary column
>> still has very limited information in it and the context column is
>> empty.
>
> I want to pick up on one small point here. Obviously you want context
> to have data in it. But it seemed as if you were saying you also
> wanted context to equal summary since it does Verity. You don't really
> want that, do you?
>
> -r
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343093
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Raymond Camden]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
> Unfortunately, the contextPassages does not seem to work with Solr.
> When using it against a verity collection, but the summary and context
> columns are populated with the same text which is properly being
> controlled by the contextPassages setting. However, when I try the
> exact same settings against a Solr collection, the summary column
> still has very limited information in it and the context column is
> empty.

I want to pick up on one small point here. Obviously you want context
to have data in it. But it seemed as if you were saying you also
wanted context to equal summary since it does Verity. You don't really
want that, do you?

-r

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343092
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dean Lawrence]

Thanks Gabriel and Dan, you've at least pointed me in a direction to
research some more.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Dan Baughman  wrote:
> They work you just have to adjust ur settings.  You have to edit the xml
> files that configure solr so that they retain the text and thus can present
> the context passage.
> Follow these instructions and then rebuild your index and you'll have
> context passages:
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSe9cbe5cf462523a0-5bf1c839123792503fa-8000.html
> I, for one, found that solr was immensely more powerful and graceful than
> verity once I got it grokked.  Solr has a wiki that breaks down their query
> syntax, as well, so check it out. You can do almost anything.
> To really get soem of the good stuff for ecommerce and heavy category
> searching ( facet counts, facet queries, etc) you have to directly interact
> with the solr web service rather than going through cfsearch, but its
> generally worth it.  There are some cfc's out there that do it, check ria
> forge.
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Gabriel,
>>
>> Unfortunately, the contextPassages does not seem to work with Solr.
>> When using it against a verity collection, but the summary and context
>> columns are populated with the same text which is properly being
>> controlled by the contextPassages setting. However, when I try the
>> exact same settings against a Solr collection, the summary column
>> still has very limited information in it and the context column is
>> empty.
>>
>> You are correct that I would prefer to keep it in CF, as this would
>> allow me to perform per-collection tuning. However, if there is a
>> config file somewhere that affect all Solr collections, then I am fine
>> making the change there as well.
>>
>> Dean
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Dorioo  wrote:
>> >
>> > 1. According to the docs, the "summary" is automatically generated by
>> > cfindex so that's unlikely to help.
>> > 2. The "context" summary may provide more information for you so I'd
>> > check
>> > it out to see what kind of results it gives you.
>> >
>> > contextPassages |  Optional | 0 | The number of passages/sentences
>> > Verity
>> > returns in the context summary (that is, the context column of the
>> > results).
>> > The default i s 0, which disables context summary.
>> >
>> > 3. It might be possible to mess with the solr instance directly to get
>> > this
>> > information, but I haven't tried it and assume you'd like to keep the
>> > solution within CF.
>> >
>> > - Gabriel
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Dean Lawrence 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Am I the only one who is having a problem with this? I know that Adobe
>> >> will
>> >> be dropping support for Verity in future releases, so I would like to
>> >> move
>> >> over to Solr. However, this is really making it difficult as the
>> >> summary
>> >> really isn't good enough to let someone know if the result is what they
>> >> were
>> >> looking for or not.
>> >>
>> >> Any insight, even if it is to "that's as good as it gets", would be
>> >> very
>> >> much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Dean
>> >>
>> >> > Does anyone know if you can control how much text is included in the
>> >> > summary text that Solr returns with it's results? I am trying to
>> >> > migrate from Verity to Solr, but the summary text that I am getting
>> >> > back is very short when using Solr. With Verity, I get back about a
>> >> > paragraph or so of text, but for the same data record with Solr, I am
>> >> > less than a sentence. I have tried adjusting both the contextBytes
>> >> > and
>> >> > contextPassages settings, but neither one changes what is being
>> >> > returned.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am running CF 9.01 and the content that is being indexed are
>> >> > database records. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> > Dean
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343085
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dan Baughman]

They work you just have to adjust ur settings.  You have to edit the xml
files that configure solr so that they retain the text and thus can present
the context passage.

Follow these instructions and then rebuild your index and you'll have
context passages:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WSe9cbe5cf462523a0-5bf1c839123792503fa-8000.html

I,
for one, found that solr was immensely more powerful and graceful than
verity once I got it grokked.  Solr has a wiki that breaks down their query
syntax, as well, so check it out. You can do almost anything.

To really get soem of the good stuff for ecommerce and heavy category
searching ( facet counts, facet queries, etc) you have to directly interact
with the solr web service rather than going through cfsearch, but its
generally worth it.  There are some cfc's out there that do it, check ria
forge.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:

>
> Thanks Gabriel,
>
> Unfortunately, the contextPassages does not seem to work with Solr.
> When using it against a verity collection, but the summary and context
> columns are populated with the same text which is properly being
> controlled by the contextPassages setting. However, when I try the
> exact same settings against a Solr collection, the summary column
> still has very limited information in it and the context column is
> empty.
>
> You are correct that I would prefer to keep it in CF, as this would
> allow me to perform per-collection tuning. However, if there is a
> config file somewhere that affect all Solr collections, then I am fine
> making the change there as well.
>
> Dean
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Dorioo  wrote:
> >
> > 1. According to the docs, the "summary" is automatically generated by
> > cfindex so that's unlikely to help.
> > 2. The "context" summary may provide more information for you so I'd
> check
> > it out to see what kind of results it gives you.
> >
> > contextPassages |  Optional | 0 | The number of passages/sentences Verity
> > returns in the context summary (that is, the context column of the
> results).
> > The default i s 0, which disables context summary.
> >
> > 3. It might be possible to mess with the solr instance directly to get
> this
> > information, but I haven't tried it and assume you'd like to keep the
> > solution within CF.
> >
> > - Gabriel
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Dean Lawrence 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Am I the only one who is having a problem with this? I know that Adobe
> will
> >> be dropping support for Verity in future releases, so I would like to
> move
> >> over to Solr. However, this is really making it difficult as the summary
> >> really isn't good enough to let someone know if the result is what they
> were
> >> looking for or not.
> >>
> >> Any insight, even if it is to "that's as good as it gets", would be very
> >> much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >> > Does anyone know if you can control how much text is included in the
> >> > summary text that Solr returns with it's results? I am trying to
> >> > migrate from Verity to Solr, but the summary text that I am getting
> >> > back is very short when using Solr. With Verity, I get back about a
> >> > paragraph or so of text, but for the same data record with Solr, I am
> >> > less than a sentence. I have tried adjusting both the contextBytes and
> >> > contextPassages settings, but neither one changes what is being
> >> > returned.
> >> >
> >> > I am running CF 9.01 and the content that is being indexed are
> >> > database records. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Dean
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343083
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dorioo]

Then it may be as good as it gets within CF, unfortunately. Don't know if
it's even possible to change the length of the summary that is automatically
created by CF.

Another idea is to query the collection directly and process the XML that is
returned yourself. If you look at the doc >> arr name="spell" >> str node,
it may contain all of the text that is indexed and you could use that to
create your own summary.

The url below might show your collections. Click on one and provide a a
query string to see the results. Otherwise, change the url needed based on
where your solr server is running.

http://localhost:8983/solr/

- Gabriel

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:

>
> Thanks Gabriel,
>
> Unfortunately, the contextPassages does not seem to work with Solr.
> When using it against a verity collection, but the summary and context
> columns are populated with the same text which is properly being
> controlled by the contextPassages setting. However, when I try the
> exact same settings against a Solr collection, the summary column
> still has very limited information in it and the context column is
> empty.
>
> You are correct that I would prefer to keep it in CF, as this would
> allow me to perform per-collection tuning. However, if there is a
> config file somewhere that affect all Solr collections, then I am fine
> making the change there as well.
>
> Dean
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Dorioo  wrote:
> >
> > 1. According to the docs, the "summary" is automatically generated by
> > cfindex so that's unlikely to help.
> > 2. The "context" summary may provide more information for you so I'd
> check
> > it out to see what kind of results it gives you.
> >
> > contextPassages |  Optional | 0 | The number of passages/sentences Verity
> > returns in the context summary (that is, the context column of the
> results).
> > The default i s 0, which disables context summary.
> >
> > 3. It might be possible to mess with the solr instance directly to get
> this
> > information, but I haven't tried it and assume you'd like to keep the
> > solution within CF.
> >
> > - Gabriel
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Dean Lawrence 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Am I the only one who is having a problem with this? I know that Adobe
> will
> >> be dropping support for Verity in future releases, so I would like to
> move
> >> over to Solr. However, this is really making it difficult as the summary
> >> really isn't good enough to let someone know if the result is what they
> were
> >> looking for or not.
> >>
> >> Any insight, even if it is to "that's as good as it gets", would be very
> >> much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Dean
> >>
> >> > Does anyone know if you can control how much text is included in the
> >> > summary text that Solr returns with it's results? I am trying to
> >> > migrate from Verity to Solr, but the summary text that I am getting
> >> > back is very short when using Solr. With Verity, I get back about a
> >> > paragraph or so of text, but for the same data record with Solr, I am
> >> > less than a sentence. I have tried adjusting both the contextBytes and
> >> > contextPassages settings, but neither one changes what is being
> >> > returned.
> >> >
> >> > I am running CF 9.01 and the content that is being indexed are
> >> > database records. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Dean
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343082
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dean Lawrence]

Thanks Gabriel,

Unfortunately, the contextPassages does not seem to work with Solr.
When using it against a verity collection, but the summary and context
columns are populated with the same text which is properly being
controlled by the contextPassages setting. However, when I try the
exact same settings against a Solr collection, the summary column
still has very limited information in it and the context column is
empty.

You are correct that I would prefer to keep it in CF, as this would
allow me to perform per-collection tuning. However, if there is a
config file somewhere that affect all Solr collections, then I am fine
making the change there as well.

Dean

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Dorioo  wrote:
>
> 1. According to the docs, the "summary" is automatically generated by
> cfindex so that's unlikely to help.
> 2. The "context" summary may provide more information for you so I'd check
> it out to see what kind of results it gives you.
>
> contextPassages |  Optional | 0 | The number of passages/sentences Verity
> returns in the context summary (that is, the context column of the results).
> The default i s 0, which disables context summary.
>
> 3. It might be possible to mess with the solr instance directly to get this
> information, but I haven't tried it and assume you'd like to keep the
> solution within CF.
>
> - Gabriel
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>
>>
>> Am I the only one who is having a problem with this? I know that Adobe will
>> be dropping support for Verity in future releases, so I would like to move
>> over to Solr. However, this is really making it difficult as the summary
>> really isn't good enough to let someone know if the result is what they were
>> looking for or not.
>>
>> Any insight, even if it is to "that's as good as it gets", would be very
>> much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dean
>>
>> > Does anyone know if you can control how much text is included in the
>> > summary text that Solr returns with it's results? I am trying to
>> > migrate from Verity to Solr, but the summary text that I am getting
>> > back is very short when using Solr. With Verity, I get back about a
>> > paragraph or so of text, but for the same data record with Solr, I am
>> > less than a sentence. I have tried adjusting both the contextBytes and
>> > contextPassages settings, but neither one changes what is being
>> > returned.
>> >
>> > I am running CF 9.01 and the content that is being indexed are
>> > database records. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Dean
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343081
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dorioo]

1. According to the docs, the "summary" is automatically generated by
cfindex so that's unlikely to help.
2. The "context" summary may provide more information for you so I'd check
it out to see what kind of results it gives you.

contextPassages |  Optional | 0 | The number of passages/sentences Verity
returns in the context summary (that is, the context column of the results).
The default i s 0, which disables context summary.

3. It might be possible to mess with the solr instance directly to get this
information, but I haven't tried it and assume you'd like to keep the
solution within CF.

- Gabriel

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:

>
> Am I the only one who is having a problem with this? I know that Adobe will
> be dropping support for Verity in future releases, so I would like to move
> over to Solr. However, this is really making it difficult as the summary
> really isn't good enough to let someone know if the result is what they were
> looking for or not.
>
> Any insight, even if it is to "that's as good as it gets", would be very
> much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean
>
> > Does anyone know if you can control how much text is included in the
> > summary text that Solr returns with it's results? I am trying to
> > migrate from Verity to Solr, but the summary text that I am getting
> > back is very short when using Solr. With Verity, I get back about a
> > paragraph or so of text, but for the same data record with Solr, I am
> > less than a sentence. I have tried adjusting both the contextBytes and
> > contextPassages settings, but neither one changes what is being
> > returned.
> >
> > I am running CF 9.01 and the content that is being indexed are
> > database records. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Dean
>
>
> 

~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343079
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

Re: Solr Summary Text

[Dean Lawrence]

Am I the only one who is having a problem with this? I know that Adobe will be 
dropping support for Verity in future releases, so I would like to move over to 
Solr. However, this is really making it difficult as the summary really isn't 
good enough to let someone know if the result is what they were looking for or 
not.

Any insight, even if it is to "that's as good as it gets", would be very much 
appreciated.

Thanks,

Dean

> Does anyone know if you can control how much text is included in the 
> summary text that Solr returns with it's results? I am trying to 
> migrate from Verity to Solr, but the summary text that I am getting 
> back is very short when using Solr. With Verity, I get back about a 
> paragraph or so of text, but for the same data record with Solr, I am 
> less than a sentence. I have tried adjusting both the contextBytes and 
> contextPassages settings, but neither one changes what is being 
> returned.
> 
> I am running CF 9.01 and the content that is being indexed are 
> database records. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Dean 


~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
Archive: 
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343075
Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm