RE: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-08-13 Thread Dave Watts
> Plus, according to our SEO/SEM guys (who are all Google 
> certified, and constantly in touch) Google is starting to 
> track/index JS and JS calls (my guess is because of the 
> growing popularity of Ajax content).

This is not yet the case. Google doesn't execute JavaScript.

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RE: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-08-13 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
I asked the head of our SEO/SEM dept to explain the Google 
'certification'. His response is below.

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Cutter,

Yes. We are Certified Google Advertising Professionals. Requirements
mandate maintaining active accounts average spend $1,500 p/ month for a
min. of 90 days. Then there is a very beefy exam. The provided tutorials
in video format are approx 45-50 hours.

Dealerskins is a certified company as well. This means there are at
least 2 employees that are certified and we maintain a spend great than
100k per quarter.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions.

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>
> > Plus, according to our SEO/SEM guys (who are
> > all Google certified, and constantly in touch)
>
>  How does one become "Google certified" exactly?  What does this
>  certification entail?  Are you referring to the "Google Advertising
>  Professionals" qualifications or something else?
>
>
>  -Justin Scott


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RE: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-08-13 Thread Justin Scott
> Plus, according to our SEO/SEM guys (who are
> all Google certified, and constantly in touch)

How does one become "Google certified" exactly?  What does this
certification entail?  Are you referring to the "Google Advertising
Professionals" qualifications or something else?


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Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-08-13 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
Plus, according to our SEO/SEM guys (who are all Google certified, and 
constantly in touch) Google is starting to track/index JS and JS calls 
(my guess is because of the growing popularity of Ajax content).

Steve "Cutter" Blades
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Dave Watts wrote:
>> Interestingly, not all the search engines pay 
>> attention to robots.txt.
> 
> Google does, however.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 
> 
> 

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RE: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-08-11 Thread Dave Watts
> Interestingly, not all the search engines pay 
> attention to robots.txt.

Google does, however.

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Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-08-11 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
Interestingly, not all the search engines pay attention to robots.txt.
Library of Congress uses Archive.org, and they were throwing a lot of errors
on my site by pulling up pages without url parameters, even though those
pages were in my robots.txt.  I finally got a hold of someone there and they
basically told me they ignore robots.txt because so many people tell them
not to archive images.


On 7/4/07 7:17 AM, "Will Tomlinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can you use a robots.txt file to tell google to ignore these pages?
> 
> Will
> 
> 
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Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Dinner
At least his was 50-60% on topic.  ;-)

(I say, without adding anything myself- Ha!)

Ok, hell-  Why not implement something like here (HoF),
where the addys aren't totally displayed unless you log in?

=] Happy 4ths, folks.

On 7/4/07, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Must you rant about your shortcomings as an end-user in EVERY thread? lol
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> ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:52 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?
>
> > Has anyone had any experience with hiding certain things on a page
> > from google and other search engines?
>
>
> oops, just noticed the "certain things on a page" part.
>
> robots.txt is useless to you. Like other things are to me - vista!  :)
>
> Will
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RE: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Must you rant about your shortcomings as an end-user in EVERY thread? lol

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Subject: Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

> Has anyone had any experience with hiding certain things on a page 
> from google and other search engines?
 

oops, just noticed the "certain things on a page" part. 

robots.txt is useless to you. Like other things are to me - vista!  :)

Will



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Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Will Tomlinson
> Has anyone had any experience with hiding certain things on a page 
> from google and other search engines?
 

oops, just noticed the "certain things on a page" part. 

robots.txt is useless to you. Like other things are to me - vista!  :)

Will

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Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 04 Jul 2007, Dov B. Katz wrote:
> Bottom line- my users don't want my pages to appear when their name is
> "googled".  I'll probably go for an ajax or 

Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Dov B . Katz
> On Wednesday 04 Jul 2007, Dov B. Katz wrote:
> > In essence, I have a comment board on the same page as an event 
> listing. I
> > want the event listing to show up in search results, but not the 
> comments.
> 
> Why not ?


Bottom line- my users don't want my pages to appear when their name is 
"googled".  I'll probably go for an ajax or 

Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 04 Jul 2007, Dov B. Katz wrote:
> In essence, I have a comment board on the same page as an event listing. I
> want the event listing to show up in search results, but not the comments.

Why not ?

> I suspect the best way to deal with this might be to load the comments via
> a JS/script tag so i can have them show up separately from the page.

Or put them on a separate page protected by robots.txt
Loading comments via some form of AJAX is probably not going to get you burnt 
by Googles policy, for instance.

> What do you think?

At the end of the nothing is going to be full proof.
I wouldn't even bother trying to hide them.

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Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Dov B . Katz
In essence, I have a comment board on the same page as an event listing. I want 
the event listing to show up in search results, but not the comments.

I suspect the best way to deal with this might be to load the comments via a 
JS/script tag so i can have them show up separately from the page.   

What do you think?


> On Wednesday 04 Jul 2007, Dov B. Katz wrote:
> > I’m wondering whether I could do a document.write() to get the names 
> on
> > the page. Does google index only the text within the page’s markup, 
> or
> > does it also index content from javascript output?
> 
> No, google doesn't run javascript.
> You may fall foul of their crawler rules, however, and be delisted, as 
> you are 
> showing different content to the crawler than to everyone else.
> 
> What problem are you trying to solve ?
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Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Will Tomlinson
Can you use a robots.txt file to tell google to ignore these pages?

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Re: SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 04 Jul 2007, Dov B. Katz wrote:
> I’m wondering whether I could do a document.write() to get the names on
> the page. Does google index only the text within the page’s markup, or
> does it also index content from javascript output?

No, google doesn't run javascript.
You may fall foul of their crawler rules, however, and be delisted, as you are 
showing different content to the crawler than to everyone else.

What problem are you trying to solve ?

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SOT: Google Indexing certain content, can I avoid it with JS?

2007-07-04 Thread Dov B . Katz
Has anyone had any experience with hiding certain things on a page from google 
and other search engines?

Example, I Want to hide certain authors' names on a discussion board page, but 
the content itself should be indexed.  

I’m wondering whether I could do a document.write() to get the names on the 
page. Does google index only the text within the page’s markup, or does it 
also index content from javascript output?

Anyone ever try this approach? Please let me know. 

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