SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Mario Martinez

Hi all friends:

I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and I
realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer through
ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections are
working
This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
Connection failed
SQLState:'01000'
SQL Server Error: 10061
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
Connection failed:
SQLState: '08001'
SQL Server Error: 11
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your network
documentation.

Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
regards
Mario

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Re: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Stephen Moretti

Mario,

Sounds like your SQL Server down or someone closed up the firewall between
your CF Server and your SQL Server.

Can you get access to your SQL Server by any other means? ie. Enterprise
Manager?

Regards

Stephen
- Original Message -
From: Mario Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:09 PM
Subject: SQL server trouble


 Hi all friends:

 I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and I
 realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer
through
 ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections
are
 working
 This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
 Connection failed
 SQLState:'01000'
 SQL Server Error: 10061
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
 Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
 Connection failed:
 SQLState: '08001'
 SQL Server Error: 11
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your
network
 documentation.

 Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
 regards
 Mario

 
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RE: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Rob Baxter

check to make sure your SQL server is listening on tcp port 1433 (unless you
have changed the default port). You can either do a netstat -an from the sql
box or from the client machine try

telnet sql-server-ip 1433

If you get a response your traffic is getting through. If not you've either
got something in the way (firewall) or a problem with your SQL network
libraries. I actually just had this problem yesterday so if that is it I'll
tell you what worked for me. Have you made any configuration changes to SQL
recently?

/rob

-Original Message-
From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL server trouble


Hi all friends:

I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and I
realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer through
ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections are
working
This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
Connection failed
SQLState:'01000'
SQL Server Error: 10061
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
Connection failed:
SQLState: '08001'
SQL Server Error: 11
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your network
documentation.

Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
regards
Mario


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Re: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Alex

can you ping the database machine?

On Thu, 30 May 2002, Mario Martinez wrote:

 Hi all friends:
 
 I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and I
 realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer through
 ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections are
 working
 This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
 Connection failed
 SQLState:'01000'
 SQL Server Error: 10061
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
 Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
 Connection failed:
 SQLState: '08001'
 SQL Server Error: 11
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your network
 documentation.
 
 Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
 regards
 Mario
 
 
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Re: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Mario Martinez

Thank you for your responses friends.
I finally found the answer in www.microsoft.com  in the troubleshouting
section.Down here  the article URL
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q293107
I have to work around it because it could happen again anytime
I restart the machine.

Thanks for your concern , thank you Rob and the others friends

regards Mario
- Original Message -
From: Rob Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


 check to make sure your SQL server is listening on tcp port 1433 (unless
you
 have changed the default port). You can either do a netstat -an from the
sql
 box or from the client machine try

 telnet sql-server-ip 1433

 If you get a response your traffic is getting through. If not you've
either
 got something in the way (firewall) or a problem with your SQL network
 libraries. I actually just had this problem yesterday so if that is it
I'll
 tell you what worked for me. Have you made any configuration changes to
SQL
 recently?

 /rob

 -Original Message-
 From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL server trouble


 Hi all friends:

 I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and I
 realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer
through
 ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections
are
 working
 This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
 Connection failed
 SQLState:'01000'
 SQL Server Error: 10061
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
 Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
 Connection failed:
 SQLState: '08001'
 SQL Server Error: 11
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your
network
 documentation.

 Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
 regards
 Mario


 
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Re: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Mario Martinez

Thank you for your responses friends.
I finally found the answer in www.microsoft.com  in the troubleshouting
section.
The problem was that somehow one winsock service(as the port asiggment is
dinamically on it) was steeling the 1433 port and SQL server could not
listen in 1433 port. What I did was to stop all the services except the
defaults, restart the SQL service and restart the others services again, in
this way SQL server takes this port firts.
I have to work around it because it could happen again anytime
I restart the machine.

Thanks for your concern

regards Mario
- Original Message -
From: Rob Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


 check to make sure your SQL server is listening on tcp port 1433 (unless
you
 have changed the default port). You can either do a netstat -an from the
sql
 box or from the client machine try

 telnet sql-server-ip 1433

 If you get a response your traffic is getting through. If not you've
either
 got something in the way (firewall) or a problem with your SQL network
 libraries. I actually just had this problem yesterday so if that is it
I'll
 tell you what worked for me. Have you made any configuration changes to
SQL
 recently?

 /rob

 -Original Message-
 From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL server trouble


 Hi all friends:

 I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and I
 realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer
through
 ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections
are
 working
 This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
 Connection failed
 SQLState:'01000'
 SQL Server Error: 10061
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
 Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
 Connection failed:
 SQLState: '08001'
 SQL Server Error: 11
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your
network
 documentation.

 Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
 regards
 Mario


 
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RE: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Tony_Petruzzi

that's the first place to go whenever you have problem with a Microsoft
product. Second is google groups. this list should be a last ditch effort.

Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
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-Original Message-
From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL server trouble


Thank you for your responses friends.
I finally found the answer in www.microsoft.com  in the troubleshouting
section.Down here  the article URL
http://support.microsoft.com/search/preview.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q293107
I have to work around it because it could happen again anytime
I restart the machine.

Thanks for your concern , thank you Rob and the others friends

regards Mario
- Original Message -
From: Rob Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


 check to make sure your SQL server is listening on tcp port 1433 (unless
you
 have changed the default port). You can either do a netstat -an from the
sql
 box or from the client machine try

 telnet sql-server-ip 1433

 If you get a response your traffic is getting through. If not you've
either
 got something in the way (firewall) or a problem with your SQL network
 libraries. I actually just had this problem yesterday so if that is it
I'll
 tell you what worked for me. Have you made any configuration changes to
SQL
 recently?

 /rob

 -Original Message-
 From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL server trouble


 Hi all friends:

 I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and I
 realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer
through
 ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections
are
 working
 This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
 Connection failed
 SQLState:'01000'
 SQL Server Error: 10061
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
 Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
 Connection failed:
 SQLState: '08001'
 SQL Server Error: 11
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your
network
 documentation.

 Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
 regards
 Mario


 

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RE: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Tony_Petruzzi

just out curiosity. I wonder, if the next time this happens, if you viewed
the services file, (c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\services) if it would tell
you what is hooked on that port. if it does, then you know what app is the
culprit.

Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.sheriff.org


-Original Message-
From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL server trouble


Thank you for your responses friends.
I finally found the answer in www.microsoft.com  in the troubleshouting
section.
The problem was that somehow one winsock service(as the port asiggment is
dinamically on it) was steeling the 1433 port and SQL server could not
listen in 1433 port. What I did was to stop all the services except the
defaults, restart the SQL service and restart the others services again, in
this way SQL server takes this port firts.
I have to work around it because it could happen again anytime
I restart the machine.

Thanks for your concern

regards Mario
- Original Message -
From: Rob Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


 check to make sure your SQL server is listening on tcp port 1433 (unless
you
 have changed the default port). You can either do a netstat -an from the
sql
 box or from the client machine try

 telnet sql-server-ip 1433

 If you get a response your traffic is getting through. If not you've
either
 got something in the way (firewall) or a problem with your SQL network
 libraries. I actually just had this problem yesterday so if that is it
I'll
 tell you what worked for me. Have you made any configuration changes to
SQL
 recently?

 /rob

 -Original Message-
 From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:10 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: SQL server trouble


 Hi all friends:

 I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and I
 realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer
through
 ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections
are
 working
 This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
 Connection failed
 SQLState:'01000'
 SQL Server Error: 10061
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
 Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
 Connection failed:
 SQLState: '08001'
 SQL Server Error: 11
 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your
network
 documentation.

 Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
 regards
 Mario


 

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RE: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Dave Watts

 I wonder, if the next time this happens, if you viewed the 
 services file, (c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\services) if 
 it would tell you what is hooked on that port. if it does, 
 then you know what app is the culprit.

The services file doesn't reflect what's actually listening; it just lists
standard ports used by services.

There are apps which can determine what's listening at a specific port, and
netstat in XP does this, which is kind of neat.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 
http://www.figleaf.com/ 
phone: 202-797-5496 
fax: 202-797-5444
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Re: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Mario Martinez

Tony:
This file you are taking about  does not contain any info about port 1433.
You can be sure I did a search in microsoft site before going to the list ,
although  I did not find the right keyword combinations at the begining .
After making a cousious search in the SQL Errorlog I found the right keyword
combination.
thanks friend
regards Mario


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


 just out curiosity. I wonder, if the next time this happens, if you viewed
 the services file, (c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\services) if it would
tell
 you what is hooked on that port. if it does, then you know what app is the
 culprit.

 Anthony Petruzzi
 Webmaster
 954-321-4703
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.sheriff.org


 -Original Message-
 From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:46 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SQL server trouble


 Thank you for your responses friends.
 I finally found the answer in www.microsoft.com  in the troubleshouting
 section.
 The problem was that somehow one winsock service(as the port asiggment is
 dinamically on it) was steeling the 1433 port and SQL server could not
 listen in 1433 port. What I did was to stop all the services except the
 defaults, restart the SQL service and restart the others services again,
in
 this way SQL server takes this port firts.
 I have to work around it because it could happen again anytime
 I restart the machine.

 Thanks for your concern

 regards Mario
 - Original Message -
 From: Rob Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:32 PM
 Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


  check to make sure your SQL server is listening on tcp port 1433 (unless
 you
  have changed the default port). You can either do a netstat -an from the
 sql
  box or from the client machine try
 
  telnet sql-server-ip 1433
 
  If you get a response your traffic is getting through. If not you've
 either
  got something in the way (firewall) or a problem with your SQL network
  libraries. I actually just had this problem yesterday so if that is it
 I'll
  tell you what worked for me. Have you made any configuration changes to
 SQL
  recently?
 
  /rob
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:10 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: SQL server trouble
 
 
  Hi all friends:
 
  I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and
I
  realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer
 through
  ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections
 are
  working
  This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
  Connection failed
  SQLState:'01000'
  SQL Server Error: 10061
  [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
  Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
  Connection failed:
  SQLState: '08001'
  SQL Server Error: 11
  [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your
 network
  documentation.
 
  Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
  regards
  Mario
 
 
 

 
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RE: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Rob Baxter

If you are able to figure out what service is grabbing 1433 ahead of sql
server, I'd suggest changing the startup parameter for that service to
manual to allow sql to get it first. Of course you then have to remember to
manually start that other service after every reboot.

/rob

-Original Message-
From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL server trouble


Tony:
This file you are taking about  does not contain any info about port 1433.
You can be sure I did a search in microsoft site before going to the list ,
although  I did not find the right keyword combinations at the begining .
After making a cousious search in the SQL Errorlog I found the right keyword
combination.
thanks friend
regards Mario


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


 just out curiosity. I wonder, if the next time this happens, if you viewed
 the services file, (c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\services) if it would
tell
 you what is hooked on that port. if it does, then you know what app is the
 culprit.

 Anthony Petruzzi
 Webmaster
 954-321-4703
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.sheriff.org


 -Original Message-
 From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:46 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SQL server trouble


 Thank you for your responses friends.
 I finally found the answer in www.microsoft.com  in the troubleshouting
 section.
 The problem was that somehow one winsock service(as the port asiggment is
 dinamically on it) was steeling the 1433 port and SQL server could not
 listen in 1433 port. What I did was to stop all the services except the
 defaults, restart the SQL service and restart the others services again,
in
 this way SQL server takes this port firts.
 I have to work around it because it could happen again anytime
 I restart the machine.

 Thanks for your concern

 regards Mario
 - Original Message -
 From: Rob Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:32 PM
 Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


  check to make sure your SQL server is listening on tcp port 1433 (unless
 you
  have changed the default port). You can either do a netstat -an from the
 sql
  box or from the client machine try
 
  telnet sql-server-ip 1433
 
  If you get a response your traffic is getting through. If not you've
 either
  got something in the way (firewall) or a problem with your SQL network
  libraries. I actually just had this problem yesterday so if that is it
 I'll
  tell you what worked for me. Have you made any configuration changes to
 SQL
  recently?
 
  /rob
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:10 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: SQL server trouble
 
 
  Hi all friends:
 
  I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here and
I
  realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer
 through
  ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC connections
 are
  working
  This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
  Connection failed
  SQLState:'01000'
  SQL Server Error: 10061
  [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
  Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
  Connection failed:
  SQLState: '08001'
  SQL Server Error: 11
  [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your
 network
  documentation.
 
  Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
  regards
  Mario
 
 
 



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Re: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Mario Martinez

Thank you Rob again.
regards Mario

- Original Message -
From: Rob Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


 If you are able to figure out what service is grabbing 1433 ahead of sql
 server, I'd suggest changing the startup parameter for that service to
 manual to allow sql to get it first. Of course you then have to remember
to
 manually start that other service after every reboot.

 /rob

 -Original Message-
 From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:23 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: SQL server trouble


 Tony:
 This file you are taking about  does not contain any info about port 1433.
 You can be sure I did a search in microsoft site before going to the list
,
 although  I did not find the right keyword combinations at the begining .
 After making a cousious search in the SQL Errorlog I found the right
keyword
 combination.
 thanks friend
 regards Mario


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:11 PM
 Subject: RE: SQL server trouble


  just out curiosity. I wonder, if the next time this happens, if you
viewed
  the services file, (c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\services) if it would
 tell
  you what is hooked on that port. if it does, then you know what app is
the
  culprit.
 
  Anthony Petruzzi
  Webmaster
  954-321-4703
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.sheriff.org
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:46 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: SQL server trouble
 
 
  Thank you for your responses friends.
  I finally found the answer in www.microsoft.com  in the troubleshouting
  section.
  The problem was that somehow one winsock service(as the port asiggment
is
  dinamically on it) was steeling the 1433 port and SQL server could not
  listen in 1433 port. What I did was to stop all the services except the
  defaults, restart the SQL service and restart the others services again,
 in
  this way SQL server takes this port firts.
  I have to work around it because it could happen again anytime
  I restart the machine.
 
  Thanks for your concern
 
  regards Mario
  - Original Message -
  From: Rob Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:32 PM
  Subject: RE: SQL server trouble
 
 
   check to make sure your SQL server is listening on tcp port 1433
(unless
  you
   have changed the default port). You can either do a netstat -an from
the
  sql
   box or from the client machine try
  
   telnet sql-server-ip 1433
  
   If you get a response your traffic is getting through. If not you've
  either
   got something in the way (firewall) or a problem with your SQL network
   libraries. I actually just had this problem yesterday so if that is it
  I'll
   tell you what worked for me. Have you made any configuration changes
to
  SQL
   recently?
  
   /rob
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Mario Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:10 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: SQL server trouble
  
  
   Hi all friends:
  
   I got a coldfusion system with an SQL server . Today I came in here
and
 I
   realize that I can't connect this SQL server from any other computer
  through
   ODBC . I could do that before , now none of my remotly ODBC
connections
  are
   working
   This is the error I receive when I try to connect remotly:
   Connection failed
   SQLState:'01000'
   SQL Server Error: 10061
   [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver ][TCP/IP
   Sockets]ConnectionOpen(connect()).
   Connection failed:
   SQLState: '08001'
   SQL Server Error: 11
   [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]General network error. Check your
  network
   documentation.
  
   Any ideas will be more than appreciate.
   regards
   Mario
  
  
  
 
 

 
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RE: SQL server trouble

2002-05-30 Thread Dave Watts

 If you are able to figure out what service is grabbing 1433 
 ahead of sql server, I'd suggest changing the startup parameter 
 for that service to manual to allow sql to get it first. Of 
 course you then have to remember to manually start that other 
 service after every reboot.

Actually, you can configure your services to start in whatever order you'd
like. You have to edit the Registry and set the DependOnService key for the
second service so that it won't start until the first one has already
started.

Ray Camden pointed this out to me, I think; it came up with running
SiteMinder and SQL Server on the same server. SiteMinder had to start after
SQL Server, or no one would be able to log in!

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 
http://www.figleaf.com/ 
phone: 202-797-5496 
fax: 202-797-5444
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