RE: Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-17 Thread Mark Kruger
Toby,

To be clear Once you click on the link that hits the security system
your CF application is no longer in play. You are hitting a different
server/application at that point.

So the question is, what port are you hitting on that COP system?  It looks
like (from your code below) that it is port 80 (the default). Ok ... so does
the COP system have an external IP address mapped to it's internal IP
address?

Addresses like 192.168.x.x are always inside of a network. They are not
routed out to the Internet at large. According to your note below you DO
have an external address...great. So the next question is, is traffic
allowed from outside through that address on port 80 (port 80 is the
default port for http). You may need to open the port on the firewall to
allow traffic through. How you do this is dependent on the firewall. For
example, if you are using a PIX (a popular cisco product) you would likely
use an access list and a static mapping.  

If you only have 1 outside IP address then you are likely using a Small
Office or Home router (commonly called SOHO). A soho router usually
(though not always) handles the rules for a single IP address. If you only
have 1 IP address you can still make this work - but you may have to fiddle
with it to get it right. On the COP system for example you could set up a
web site (or configure the existing web site) to use a different port - like
8080. Then you would open the router port to that internal IP using a
virtual server or service mapping or whatever. Your url (from inside)
would end up looking like this http://192.168.0.100:8080 ... Of course you
can configure a web server for more than one port so you could probably
leave port 80 open for inside users.  Your outside address would aslo look
like http://210.213.10.2:8080; . 

The thing that's toying with your head is that link in your CF application.
It's just a pointer - it has nothing to do with your problem :)  Your issue
is all about networking and protocols.

I hope this helps you.

Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com

-Original Message-
From: Toby King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Scratching my head over this one

 Hi all
 
 I'ms tuck on this and wondering if it can be done.
 
 Basically I have a coldfusion application developed and working.  I 
 also have another computer in the network that is used as a security 
 monitoring system with cameras attached to it.
 
 In my application I have an active link something a href=view 
 camerashttp://192.168.0.100/a
 
 Now when I am on the network I get the page and everything is OK and 
 displays.
 
 I am now trying to do this so I can set the system up to perform 
 monitoring when away from the office.
 
 I thought that I might be able to do this using the link above but 
 with no luck.
 
 I then tried using the IP Address which is a static IP address but no 
 luck i.e.
 
 a href=view camerashttp://210.1.230.149/a  (Not the actual IP 
 Adress for security reasons - but rather to give you an idea).
 
 So I am wondering if anyone has any ideas am I able to do this at all.
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 


Maybe I need to provide a bit more info

I have a CF application which I have developed and am running.  All is good
with that.

I have in place a COP Security system - hence multiple cameras.  Basically
its own box.

Both computers are connected to a router.  The router has been set up so
that if a person from outside tries to browse to the web application they
will see the application.

I can only view the security system internally at this stage as well.

In the CF application I was able when in the office to be able to browse
from the CF app to the security system.  So internally everything appears to
be working.  

Its just that I cant do the same from external

Will check a few more things

But if anyone has any ideas I would welcome them

ty



  





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Re: Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-17 Thread Jon Clausen
Don't you want that link to be:

a href=http://192.168.0.100;view cameras/a

You'll need to route to an externally available IP if you want to  
access that network location from anywhere other than the network,  
though.   192.* network address will only resolve to the same network   
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address#IPv4_address_networks).  
That's why you can't access from outside the network.

  For the machine public IP address, you will need to make sure your  
webserver (IIS, Apache, etc) is configured at that IP to resolve  
requests for that IP to the correct location.

HTH,

Jon

On May 16, 2008, at 9:12 PM, Toby King wrote:

 Hi all

 I'ms tuck on this and wondering if it can be done.

 Basically I have a coldfusion application developed and working.  I  
 also have another computer in the network that is used as a security  
 monitoring system with cameras attached to it.

 In my application I have an active link something a href=view  
 camerashttp://192.168.0.100/a

 Now when I am on the network I get the page and everything is OK and  
 displays.

 I am now trying to do this so I can set the system up to perform  
 monitoring when away from the office.

 I thought that I might be able to do this using the link above but  
 with no luck.

 I then tried using the IP Address which is a static IP address but  
 no luck i.e.

 a href=view camerashttp://210.1.230.149/a  (Not the actual IP  
 Adress for security reasons - but rather to give you an idea).

 So I am wondering if anyone has any ideas am I able to do this at all.

 Thanks in advance.



 

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Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-16 Thread Toby King
Hi all

I'ms tuck on this and wondering if it can be done.

Basically I have a coldfusion application developed and working.  I also have 
another computer in the network that is used as a security monitoring system 
with cameras attached to it.

In my application I have an active link something a href=view 
camerashttp://192.168.0.100/a

Now when I am on the network I get the page and everything is OK and displays.

I am now trying to do this so I can set the system up to perform monitoring 
when away from the office.

I thought that I might be able to do this using the link above but with no luck.

I then tried using the IP Address which is a static IP address but no luck i.e. 

a href=view camerashttp://210.1.230.149/a  (Not the actual IP Adress for 
security reasons - but rather to give you an idea).

So I am wondering if anyone has any ideas am I able to do this at all.

Thanks in advance.



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Re: Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-16 Thread Loathe
Is it an internal address? Meaning is it only available from inside 
you're router/firewall/switch or whatever?



Toby King wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I'ms tuck on this and wondering if it can be done.
 
 Basically I have a coldfusion application developed and working.  I also have 
 another computer in the network that is used as a security monitoring system 
 with cameras attached to it.
 
 In my application I have an active link something a href=view 
 camerashttp://192.168.0.100/a
 
 Now when I am on the network I get the page and everything is OK and displays.
 
 I am now trying to do this so I can set the system up to perform monitoring 
 when away from the office.
 
 I thought that I might be able to do this using the link above but with no 
 luck.
 
 I then tried using the IP Address which is a static IP address but no luck 
 i.e. 
 
 a href=view camerashttp://210.1.230.149/a  (Not the actual IP Adress 
 for security reasons - but rather to give you an idea).
 
 So I am wondering if anyone has any ideas am I able to do this at all.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
 

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RE: Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-16 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Toby King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Scratching my head over this one
 
 Hi all
 
 I'ms tuck on this and wondering if it can be done.
 
 Basically I have a coldfusion application developed and working.  I
 also have another computer in the network that is used as a security
 monitoring system with cameras attached to it.

It's almost definitely a firewall issue... how are these machines connected
(both to each other and to outside)?  Does the camera need a particular port
to be open?

This could be more complex since there might be several firewalls involved
(local ones on the machine, network devices, etc) - heck, if specials ports
are needed even your ISP or hosting provider might be blocking them.

Basically once you know what you need you just have to make sure that
nothing's blocking it... but it's hard to help with that without more
information.

Jim Davis


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Re: Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-16 Thread Azadi Saryev
most small/home office routers allow you to specify one or more 'virtual
servers': an internal IP address (and usually a specific port number,
too) that all external http requests to your external IP address will be
forwarded to. on a complex/enterprise-class network, as Jim said, it is
not that simple at all...

Azadi Saryev
Sabai-dee.com
http://www.sabai-dee.com/



Toby King wrote:
 Hi all

 I'ms tuck on this and wondering if it can be done.

 Basically I have a coldfusion application developed and working.  I also have 
 another computer in the network that is used as a security monitoring system 
 with cameras attached to it.

 In my application I have an active link something a href=view 
 camerashttp://192.168.0.100/a

 Now when I am on the network I get the page and everything is OK and displays.

 I am now trying to do this so I can set the system up to perform monitoring 
 when away from the office.

 I thought that I might be able to do this using the link above but with no 
 luck.

 I then tried using the IP Address which is a static IP address but no luck 
 i.e. 

 a href=view camerashttp://210.1.230.149/a  (Not the actual IP Adress 
 for security reasons - but rather to give you an idea).

 So I am wondering if anyone has any ideas am I able to do this at all.

 Thanks in advance.
   

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Re: Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-16 Thread Toby King
 Hi all
 
 I'ms tuck on this and wondering if it can be done.
 
 Basically I have a coldfusion application developed and working.  I 
 also have another computer in the network that is used as a security 
 monitoring system with cameras attached to it.
 
 In my application I have an active link something a href=view 
 camerashttp://192.168.0.100/a
 
 Now when I am on the network I get the page and everything is OK and 
 displays.
 
 I am now trying to do this so I can set the system up to perform 
 monitoring when away from the office.
 
 I thought that I might be able to do this using the link above but 
 with no luck.
 
 I then tried using the IP Address which is a static IP address but no 
 luck i.e. 
 
 a href=view camerashttp://210.1.230.149/a  (Not the actual IP 
 Adress for security reasons - but rather to give you an idea).
 
 So I am wondering if anyone has any ideas am I able to do this at all.
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 


Maybe I need to provide a bit more info

I have a CF application which I have developed and am running.  All is good 
with that.

I have in place a COP Security system - hence multiple cameras.  Basically its 
own box.

Both computers are connected to a router.  The router has been set up so that 
if a person from outside tries to browse to the web application they will see 
the application.

I can only view the security system internally at this stage as well.

In the CF application I was able when in the office to be able to browse from 
the CF app to the security system.  So internally everything appears to be 
working.  

Its just that I cant do the same from external

Will check a few more things

But if anyone has any ideas I would welcome them

ty



  



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Re: Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-16 Thread Toby King
 Hi all
 
 I'ms tuck on this and wondering if it can be done.
 
 Basically I have a coldfusion application developed and working.  I 
 also have another computer in the network that is used as a security 
 monitoring system with cameras attached to it.
 
 In my application I have an active link something a href=view 
 camerashttp://192.168.0.100/a
 
 Now when I am on the network I get the page and everything is OK and 
 displays.
 
 I am now trying to do this so I can set the system up to perform 
 monitoring when away from the office.
 
 I thought that I might be able to do this using the link above but 
 with no luck.
 
 I then tried using the IP Address which is a static IP address but no 
 luck i.e. 
 
 a href=view camerashttp://210.1.230.149/a  (Not the actual IP 
 Adress for security reasons - but rather to give you an idea).
 
 So I am wondering if anyone has any ideas am I able to do this at all.
 
 
 Thanks in advance.


Maybe I need to provide a bit more info

I have a CF application which I have developed and am running.  All is good 
with that.

I have in place a COP Security system - hence multiple cameras.  Basically its 
own box.

Both computers are connected to a router.  The router has been set up so that 
if a person from outside tries to browse to the web application they will see 
the application.

I can only view the security system internally at this stage as well.

In the CF application I was able when in the office to be able to browse from 
the CF app to the security system.  So internally everything appears to be 
working.  

Its just that I cant do the same from external

Will check a few more things

But if anyone has any ideas I would welcome them

ty






 


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Re: Scratching my head over this one

2008-05-16 Thread Azadi Saryev
[q]The router has been set up so that if a person from outside tries to browse 
to the web application they will see the application.[/q]

so you must have some sort of 'virtual server' setup for the internal IP cf/web 
server is running on. you need to make same/similar setup for the internal IP 
of your security cameras box.

Azadi Saryev
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