Re: Splitting UI and Data
I got a little interested in this one fuseaction name=showProduct set name=product value=#application.productService.getProductByID( attributes.productID )# / include template=dspProduct / /fuseaction How is the application.productService.getProductBy(IDattributes.productID )# defined? I think that the productService is setup omehow. ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291178 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Splitting UI and Data
Yes, I'm glad that all of you convinced me to carry on with Fusebox. I have just seen the light. it was a hard start. Maybe because I had install Fusebox 5.1 and the tutorial was written for Fusebox4. But when I got it to work it was very nice. I very much like the way that the fuse action is setup and the exit parameter is defined. Top nice. Iâm about to run a tutorial about database and later on the MVC. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290874 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Splitting UI and Data
I think I would like to use some kind og MVC (Model-View-Controler). But I don't want to use a standard framework like fusebox. I think that it is too complex for my porpose. Instead I will have a controler that calls the data and apply it to the View. But I don't know how this should be programmed. Just like you mentioned To make this basic though you would call the method of your data retrieval as part of your controller, then use the return (a query I assume?) to populate your view. But how to program this? Any one that can schetch this for me? Controller.cfm cfinvoke component=Foods method=getFood returnvariable=retGetFood / --- Get the data --- !--- But how to pass this to the viewFood.cfm ?? --- Any Ideas? ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290735 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Splitting UI and Data
I think I would like to use some kind og MVC (Model-View-Controler). But I don't want to use a standard framework like fusebox. I think that it is too complex for my porpose. If you are planning on using MVC I would strongly suggest using an existing framework (Mach-ii, Model-Glue, FuseBox). With the large quantity of tutorials available you can get up to speed quickly on your chosen framework. If you are new to MVC and OO development, using an existing framework will guide you toward best practice development. The learning curve necessary to roll your own MVC framework will be so steep as to be almost impossible. Also remember that there is a large amount of community support, which translates into a large support system for the inevitable questions that will come up. HTH, Rich Kroll ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290742 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Splitting UI and Data
On Wednesday 10 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I would like to use some kind og MVC (Model-View-Controler). But I don't want to use a standard framework like fusebox. I think that it is too complex for my porpose. You don't have to use all the complicated bits of it :-) Instead I will have a controler that calls the data and apply it to the View. But I don't know how this should be programmed. Then I suggest you pick and off the shelf standard framework. You can always customise it if you like, but it'll make working with other developers so much easier. And you'll be running in no time, without having built a new wheel. Again. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to administratively bully sticky features on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290739 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Splitting UI and Data
I do think that I will program it by myself. I like to be in controle. This Best practice from Benorama looks very good. http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/index.htm Therfore I think that I will try this first. If everything fails with that I will use Fusebox. But I do not like it. Maby if I get more into it I will. Any one that have any expirence? ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290750 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Splitting UI and Data
Er, you think THAT is less complicated than Fusebox? Look, I know the frameworks can seem daunting at first, but they really aren't. In fusebox, what you're asking about can be done as simply as: fuseaction name=showProduct set name=product value=#application.productService.getProductByID( attributes.productID )# / include template=dspProduct / /fuseaction And then the query or object named product is available in your dspProduct.cfm file. It doesn't get much easier than that. To be honest, all of the HTML front-controller frameworks work pretty similarly but with different syntaxes. In my opinion, by far the most challenging (and fun) part is building the model, which is a totally separate topic and can get extremely complex depending on the needs of the application. On 10/10/07, Morten Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think that I will program it by myself. I like to be in controle. This Best practice from Benorama looks very good. http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/index.htm Therfore I think that I will try this first. If everything fails with that I will use Fusebox. But I do not like it. Maby if I get more into it I will. Any one that have any expirence? ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290775 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Splitting UI and Data
Only tons. It's very easy to use, currently configured through a couple of easy to edit xml files. Even that is going to be going away soon I believe, and it will be an easier CF based set up. That's why I prefer Fusebox. Really easy to write drag and drop apps. With some of the others I've a harder time getting them set up and configure as easily. You start getting into server mappings and stuff, but with CF you can either set up on framework install per server, multiple frameworks, or just have it in the same directory structure as the application files. Go to www.fusebox.org for more info man, it's worth it. -Original Message- From: Morten Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Splitting UI and Data I do think that I will program it by myself. I like to be in controle. This Best practice from Benorama looks very good. http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/index.htm Therfore I think that I will try this first. If everything fails with that I will use Fusebox. But I do not like it. Maby if I get more into it I will. Any one that have any expirence? ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290796 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Splitting UI and Data
Ok, I will take a look at fusebox. Thank's for all you input. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290811 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Splitting UI and Data
Agreed. You pop over to community and say hi. -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Splitting UI and Data Er, you think THAT is less complicated than Fusebox? Look, I know the frameworks can seem daunting at first, but they really aren't. In fusebox, what you're asking about can be done as simply as: fuseaction name=showProduct set name=product value=#application.productService.getProductByID( attributes.productID )# / include template=dspProduct / /fuseaction And then the query or object named product is available in your dspProduct.cfm file. It doesn't get much easier than that. To be honest, all of the HTML front-controller frameworks work pretty similarly but with different syntaxes. In my opinion, by far the most challenging (and fun) part is building the model, which is a totally separate topic and can get extremely complex depending on the needs of the application. On 10/10/07, Morten Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think that I will program it by myself. I like to be in controle. This Best practice from Benorama looks very good. http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/index.htm Therfore I think that I will try this first. If everything fails with that I will use Fusebox. But I do not like it. Maby if I get more into it I will. Any one that have any expirence? ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290797 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Splitting UI and Data
Feel free to email me off list with questions. There is also a mailing list and a forum that are excellent learning tools, and the wiki is a great resource as well. -Original Message- From: Morten Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:36 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Splitting UI and Data Ok, I will take a look at fusebox. Thank's for all you input. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290822 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Splitting UI and Data
Iâm about to construct a new Coldfusion application and I want do use an object orientated approach. But I donât know how I should do this. I have read the article written by David Friedel. Building an object oriented user interface with Coldfusion MX http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/oo_interface.html He tells about the principles but not the actual development I have created a cfc library containing data retrievers. These cfcâs should provide my UI with the necessary data. Now Iâm about to construct the User interface (UI) but I donât know how I should combine the user interface with the data. I plan to split the UI in small function (Widget) just like in the article. Maybe I will have a grid showing some employees The UI part I would then insert into either a cfm or cfc. If I put it into a cfm and use CFINCLUDE to use it I canât pass the data query to it. But then if I put into a cfc and use CFINVOKE I can pass the data to it. But then the cfc will fail because it uses the CFGRID and I donât intent to insert a CFFORM into each cfc. How do you do this? ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290715 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Splitting UI and Data
I generally won't put any view/html type code inside a cfc if I can help it. There are several different frameworks that make the understanding of this relationship easier. Personally I prefer Fusebox. There are also Model-Glue and Machii. To make this basic though you would call the method of your data retrieval as part of your controller, then use the return (a query I assume?) to populate your view. -Original Message- From: Morten Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Splitting UI and Data Iââ¬â¢m about to construct a new Coldfusion application and I want do use an object orientated approach. But I donââ¬â¢t know how I should do this. I have read the article written by David Friedel. Building an object oriented user interface with Coldfusion MX http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/oo_interface.html He tells about the principles but not the actual development I have created a cfc library containing data retrievers. These cfcââ¬â¢s should provide my UI with the necessary data. Now Iââ¬â¢m about to construct the User interface (UI) but I donââ¬â¢t know how I should combine the user interface with the data. I plan to split the UI in small function (Widget) just like in the article. Maybe I will have a grid showing some employees The UI part I would then insert into either a cfm or cfc. If I put it into a cfm and use CFINCLUDE to use it I canââ¬â¢t pass the data query to it. But then if I put into a cfc and use CFINVOKE I can pass the data to it. But then the cfc will fail because it uses the CFGRID and I donââ¬â¢t intent to insert a CFFORM into each cfc. How do you do this? ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290716 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
