RE: changing CFID/CFTOKEN

2002-01-27 Thread Dave Watts

 I'm using ColdFusion client variables and would like to 
 have the CFID/CFTOKEN values change periodically during 
 a user session in order to reduce the chances that, if 
 they were intercepted, they could be used to impersonate 
 a user. Has anyone figured out a way to do that?

That seems like it would be extremely susceptible to breakage, although it's
possibly achievable by simply changing the values in your Client database
and resetting the cookies at the same time. I haven't tried this, though,
and it's possible that CF keeps the values internally, as well as writing
them to the tables, in which case it probably wouldn't work. You could roll
your own Client variables by simply handling the token generation
yourself, and fetching the variables from the database on each page, which
is all that CF does, really.

Even if you did all this, it wouldn't absolutely prevent impersonation,
since at some point, these values would have to travel back and forth across
the wire, and any interception could then make use of them. All this would
do, I think, is limit the window of vulnerability somewhat.

On the other hand, you might just use SSL to prevent interception, instead.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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changing CFID/CFTOKEN

2002-01-24 Thread Herbener, Martin - School Information Technology

I'm using ColdFusion client variables and would like to have the
CFID/CFTOKEN values change periodically during a user session in order to
reduce the chances that, if they were intercepted, they could be used to
impersonate a user.  Has anyone figured out a way to do that?

thanks


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Re: changing CFID/CFTOKEN

2002-01-24 Thread Billy Cravens

No way.  CFID/CFTOKEN is how CF manages sessions.  You can change your setup
to use GUID's, which will provide an added layer of obscurity to the
CFID/CFTOKEN.  Or you could roll your own session state, but this introduces
it's own complexities.

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 I'm using ColdFusion client variables and would like to have the
 CFID/CFTOKEN values change periodically during a user session in order
to
 reduce the chances that, if they were intercepted, they could be used to
 impersonate a user.  Has anyone figured out a way to do that?

 thanks

 
 Martin Herbener
 
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