Re: something better?

2004-08-23 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 20 Aug 2004 19:39 pm, Ray Champagne wrote:
 The thing that I personally don't like about eclipse is that it doesn't
 provide a shortcut to browse the file at a keystroke (such as F12 in

You can associate an URL with a project, and jump stright to that.
These days, you normaly can't go stright to a template on a site anyway, 
because sessions etc must be set up, logged in etc. first.

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something better?

2004-08-20 Thread md insua
Now, I know for some, my question is going to seem to be heresy, but...

Does anyone know of a multi-language editor other than Dreamweaver that offers pretty much the same features without half the crap Dreamweaver puts into the code?

A little insight ~ I'm getting a little fed up with the host of ancillary amout of code and white space dreamweaver arbitrarily throws into my code.
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RE: something better?

2004-08-20 Thread Tangorre, Michael
I like codewhiz.
http://www.incatec.com/cgi-bin/Codewhiz.asp

I have been working on a CF language pack/color coding for like 3
months, but can not seem to find the time to finish it. Good editor
though.

Michael T. Tangorre

 Now, I know for some, my question is going to seem to be 
 heresy, but...
 
 Does anyone know of a multi-language editor other than 
 Dreamweaver that offers pretty much the same features without 
 half the crap Dreamweaver puts into the code?
 
 A little insight ~ I'm getting a little fed up with the host 
 of ancillary amout of code and white space dreamweaver 
 arbitrarily throws into my code.
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RE: something better?

2004-08-20 Thread Marlon Moyer
You could always try Frontpage.Then you would feel pretty good about
Dreamweaver :)

What part of DW puts extra code in you pages?If you're talking about
wizards, that's just the nature of the beast.If you're coding from the
CODE screen, it doesn't insert any extra code

Marlon

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 From: md insua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:18 PM
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 Subject: something better?
 
 Now, I know for some, my question is going to seem to be heresy, but...
 
 Does anyone know of a multi-language editor other than Dreamweaver
 that offers pretty much the same features without half the crap
 Dreamweaver puts into the code?
 
 A little insight ~ I'm getting a little fed up with the host of ancillary
amout
 of code and white space dreamweaver arbitrarily throws into my code.
 
 

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RE: something better?

2004-08-20 Thread Samuel Neff
Do you mean code-only or wysiwyg?

For code-only I'd suggest PrimalScript (http://www.sapien.com) or HomeSite+
(on DW cd).

Sam

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Subject: something better?

Now, I know for some, my question is going to seem to be heresy, but...

Does anyone know of a multi-language editor other than Dreamweaver that
offers pretty much the same features without half the crap Dreamweaver puts
into the code?

A little insight ~ I'm getting a little fed up with the host of ancillary
amout of code and white space dreamweaver arbitrarily throws into my code.
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Re: something better?

2004-08-20 Thread Damien McKenna
On Aug 20, 2004, at 2:18 PM, md insua wrote:
 Does anyone know of a multi-language editor other than Dreamweaver 
 that offers pretty much the same features without half the crap 
 Dreamweaver puts into the code?

What version of Dreamweaver?Do you want a WYSIWYG editor or a code 
editor with helpers (GUI bits for editing tags, inserting regularly 
used code, canned scripts, etc)?

I use Dreamweaver MX 2004 as an overblown text editor.I rarely jump 
to the WYSIWYG side and honestly I think I should have given one of the 
shareware editor makers half the money and asked for some specific 
features, would have been a better idea methinks.
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RE: something better?

2004-08-20 Thread Jim Davis
I'm not a huge fan of DreamWeaver either, but I use it.You can disable all
of the code rewriting in the tool if that's you're only problem.

My big problem is that the damn thing can't seem to show me a nice simple
file list like every other program on the planet - it's always trying to
show me the folders I had open or showing me wrong folders because it's
caching the display.PITA.

Still HomeSite still seems like a great choice and a lot of people seem to
be moving to eclipse (although from the little I've seen eclipse seems even
heavier than DreamWeaver if that's possible).

Jim Davis

From: md insua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: something better?

Now, I know for some, my question is going to seem to be heresy, but...

Does anyone know of a multi-language editor other than Dreamweaver that
offers pretty much the same features without half the crap Dreamweaver puts
into the code?

A little insight ~ I'm getting a little fed up with the host of ancillary
amout of code and white space dreamweaver arbitrarily throws into my code.
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RE: something better?

2004-08-20 Thread Ray Champagne
The thing that I personally don't like about eclipse is that it doesn't 
provide a shortcut to browse the file at a keystroke (such as F12 in 
DW).I use that all the time, and I am sorry but having to go external and 
browse through the 100+ clients we have is not a good solution.

Ray

At 02:32 PM 8/20/2004, Jim Davis wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of DreamWeaver either, but I use it.You can disable all
of the code rewriting in the tool if that's you're only problem.



My big problem is that the damn thing can't seem to show me a nice simple
file list like every other program on the planet - it's always trying to
show me the folders I had open or showing me wrong folders because it's
caching the display.PITA.



Still HomeSite still seems like a great choice and a lot of people seem to
be moving to eclipse (although from the little I've seen eclipse seems even
heavier than DreamWeaver if that's possible).



Jim Davis



From: md insua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: something better?



Now, I know for some, my question is going to seem to be heresy, but...

Does anyone know of a multi-language editor other than Dreamweaver that
offers pretty much the same features without half the crap Dreamweaver puts
into the code?

A little insight ~ I'm getting a little fed up with the host of ancillary
amout of code and white space dreamweaver arbitrarily throws into my code.






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Re: something better?

2004-08-20 Thread Sean Corfield
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:18:16 -0400, md insua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know of a multi-language editor other than Dreamweaver that offers pretty much the same features without half the crap Dreamweaver puts into the code?

DW doesn't insert anything into my code. What version of DW are you
using and what exactly are you doing that might ask DW to modify your
code?
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