RE: xhtml and cfform flash
What browser are you using? CFForm in CF7 does produce valid XHTML, Sean's comment was from the CF6 days. What are you seeing that is not xhtml compliant? It sounds like your flash forms are including both the and tags, which is not xhtml compliant. We do some browser detection to determine if we need to output an object tag (IE) or an embed tag (Firefox) , instead of doing that old non-xhtml shortcut of putting the embed tag inside of the object tag. However just to be safe we do output both if we can't detect your browser correctly. ---nimer -Original Message- From: Sebastian Mork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: xhtml and cfform flash Hi, I mean the code that is generated for flash-forms like.. 'http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/style.html -- near the bottom) "SeanCorfield said on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:14 AM : The non-compliance of code generated by CFFORM is a known issue that will be addressed in a future release. " So, I've to wait. or what? -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:08:24 -0400 S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > what about flash-forms and valid xhtml? > > is there a way to create valid xhtml-code by cfform?? > > Heh... I believe you're actually the 2nd person to ask that this > morning... > > Are you referring to the capitalized xhtml elements? > > I haven't worked with CF7's CFFORM tools myself (I have something > better) but I would expect you could make a copy of the default XSL > sheet and modify it to produce lower-case elements. Or modify the > default XSL sheet. I know the default sheet has a bug in it that > causes multiple-select elements to be un-selected if they should be > prepopulated with multiple elements selected, so there's a good chance > you would need to edit the default XSL sheet anyway. Here's the url > for that fix: > > http://blog.web-shorts.com/?day=3/6/2005 > > He does mention that it's in _formelements.xsl ... although offhand I > don't know where that file is located... I'd expect it's under the > cfusionmx webroot directory somewhere but it's probably documented in > the livedocs. http://livedocs.macromedia.com > > hth > > s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 > new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > > add features without fixtures with > the onTap open source framework > > http://www.fusiontap.com > http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210535 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: xhtml and cfform flash
Sebastian Mork wrote: > I mean the code that is generated for flash-forms like.. > ' id='CFForm_1' "); ...' > validator gives a lot of errs like 'there is no attribute "pluginspage"'. Core problem: The HTML 4.0 specification did not validate against realworld browsers, so its validator objects to tags the browsers use. (More info's available with a web search on term "dowdell object embed validate".) More browsers are starting to be able to invoke plugins via OBJECT tag alone, as the 1997 HTML 4.0 spec desired, but there are still squirrelly problems when relying on additional browser features (WMODE, LiveConnect, printing, streaming etc): http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/007923.cfm jd -- John Dowdell . Macromedia Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://www.macromedia.com/go/blog_jd Aggregator: http://www.macromedia.com/go/weblogs Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210426 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: xhtml and cfform flash
Because the uninitiated customers like the pretty colors. For those who don't understand the potential consequences the HTML mail looks more "professional." Shawn McKee -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: xhtml and cfform flash > don't know how '' could occur there (some magic > thing or I made a mistake during copy from the validator:) That's a mailing list issue. It strips HTML script tags to prevent bad things from executing in clients that display HTML mail. Why anyone would use HTML mail is beyond me, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210407 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: xhtml and cfform flash
> don't know how '' could occur there (some magic > thing or I made a mistake during copy from the validator:) That's a mailing list issue. It strips HTML script tags to prevent bad things from executing in clients that display HTML mail. Why anyone would use HTML mail is beyond me, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210404 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: xhtml and cfform flash
don't know how '' could occur there (some magic thing or I made a mistake during copy from the validator:) -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:35:45 -0400 Kwang Suh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To add to your list of woes, I don't think is even a valid tag > in XHTML. > > > Hi, > > > > I mean the code that is generated for flash-forms like.. > > ' > id='CFForm_1' "); ...' > > > > validator gives a lot of errs like 'there is no attribute > > "pluginspage"'. > > > > I read somewhere that you either use cfform(flash) or xhtml, right? > > No other possibilities yet? > > > > In another post I wrote what I've read (from Sean Corfield) in the > > livedocs: > > (http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/style. > > html > > -- near the bottom) > > "SeanCorfield said on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:14 AM : > > The non-compliance of code generated by CFFORM is a known issue that > > will be addressed in a future release. " > > > > So, I've to wait. or what? > > > > -- > > Sebastian Mork > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > > > On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:08:24 -0400 > > S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > what about flash-forms and valid xhtml? > > > > is there a way to create valid xhtml-code by cfform?? > > > > > > Heh... I believe you're actually the 2nd person to ask that this > > > morning... > > > > > > Are you referring to the capitalized xhtml elements? > > > > > > I haven't worked with CF7's CFFORM tools myself (I have something > > > better) but I would expect you could make a copy of the default XSL > > > sheet and modify it to produce lower-case elements. Or modify the > > > default XSL sheet. I know the default sheet has a bug in it that > > > causes multiple-select elements to be un-selected if they should be > > > prepopulated with multiple elements selected, so there's a good > > chance > > > you would need to edit the default XSL sheet anyway. Here's the url > > > for that fix: > > > > > > http://blog.web-shorts.com/?day=3/6/2005 > > > > > > He does mention that it's in _formelements.xsl ... although offhand > > I > > > don't know where that file is located... I'd expect it's under the > > > cfusionmx webroot directory somewhere but it's probably documented > > in > > > the livedocs. http://livedocs.macromedia.com > > > > > > hth > > > > > > s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 > > > new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > > > > > > add features without fixtures with > > > the onTap open source framework > > > > > > http://www.fusiontap.com > > > http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210394 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: xhtml and cfform flash
> Sigh... the embed tag, that is. >>To add to your list of woes, I don't think is >>even a valid tag in XHTML. >> That's easily removed... ]+>","")> s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210373 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: xhtml and cfform flash
Sigh... the embed tag, that is. >To add to your list of woes, I don't think is even a valid tag in >XHTML. > >> > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210364 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: xhtml and cfform flash
To add to your list of woes, I don't think is even a valid tag in XHTML. > Hi, > > I mean the code that is generated for flash-forms like.. > ' id='CFForm_1' "); ...' > > validator gives a lot of errs like 'there is no attribute > "pluginspage"'. > > I read somewhere that you either use cfform(flash) or xhtml, right? > No other possibilities yet? > > In another post I wrote what I've read (from Sean Corfield) in the > livedocs: > (http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/style. > html > -- near the bottom) > "SeanCorfield said on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:14 AM : > The non-compliance of code generated by CFFORM is a known issue that > will be addressed in a future release. " > > So, I've to wait. or what? > > -- > Sebastian Mork > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > > On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:08:24 -0400 > S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > what about flash-forms and valid xhtml? > > > is there a way to create valid xhtml-code by cfform?? > > > > Heh... I believe you're actually the 2nd person to ask that this > > morning... > > > > Are you referring to the capitalized xhtml elements? > > > > I haven't worked with CF7's CFFORM tools myself (I have something > > better) but I would expect you could make a copy of the default XSL > > sheet and modify it to produce lower-case elements. Or modify the > > default XSL sheet. I know the default sheet has a bug in it that > > causes multiple-select elements to be un-selected if they should be > > prepopulated with multiple elements selected, so there's a good > chance > > you would need to edit the default XSL sheet anyway. Here's the url > > for that fix: > > > > http://blog.web-shorts.com/?day=3/6/2005 > > > > He does mention that it's in _formelements.xsl ... although offhand > I > > don't know where that file is located... I'd expect it's under the > > cfusionmx webroot directory somewhere but it's probably documented > in > > the livedocs. http://livedocs.macromedia.com > > > > hth > > > > s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 > > new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > > > > add features without fixtures with > > the onTap open source framework > > > > http://www.fusiontap.com > > http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm > > > > > > > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210360 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: xhtml and cfform flash
Oh... ooops! Sorry... I completely overlooked that in your post (likely due in no small part to my disinterest in flash forms)... in that case I'd expect you could wrap the form in and use lcase() on the generated output... someone else recommended this in the other thread this morning. The pluginspage attribute and the like are more complicated of course... You could wait, or you could use cfsavecontent and get creative with regular expressions. > Hi, > I mean the code that is generated for flash-forms like.. > ' pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' > "); id='CFForm_1' "); ...' > validator gives a lot of errs like 'there is no attribute > "pluginspage"'. > I read somewhere that you either use cfform(flash) or > xhtml, right? > No other possibilities yet? > In another post I wrote what I've read (from Sean > Corfield) in the > livedocs: > (http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standard > s/style.html > -- near the bottom) > "SeanCorfield said on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:14 AM : > The non-compliance of code generated by CFFORM is a known > issue that will be addressed in a future release. " > So, I've to wait. or what? s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210357 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: xhtml and cfform flash
Hi, I mean the code that is generated for flash-forms like.. 'http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/style.html -- near the bottom) "SeanCorfield said on Jul 22, 2004 at 10:14 AM : The non-compliance of code generated by CFFORM is a known issue that will be addressed in a future release. " So, I've to wait. or what? -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:08:24 -0400 S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > what about flash-forms and valid xhtml? > > is there a way to create valid xhtml-code by cfform?? > > Heh... I believe you're actually the 2nd person to ask that this > morning... > > Are you referring to the capitalized xhtml elements? > > I haven't worked with CF7's CFFORM tools myself (I have something > better) but I would expect you could make a copy of the default XSL > sheet and modify it to produce lower-case elements. Or modify the > default XSL sheet. I know the default sheet has a bug in it that > causes multiple-select elements to be un-selected if they should be > prepopulated with multiple elements selected, so there's a good chance > you would need to edit the default XSL sheet anyway. Here's the url > for that fix: > > http://blog.web-shorts.com/?day=3/6/2005 > > He does mention that it's in _formelements.xsl ... although offhand I > don't know where that file is located... I'd expect it's under the > cfusionmx webroot directory somewhere but it's probably documented in > the livedocs. http://livedocs.macromedia.com > > hth > > s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 > new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > > add features without fixtures with > the onTap open source framework > > http://www.fusiontap.com > http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm > > > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210352 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: xhtml and cfform flash
> Hi, > what about flash-forms and valid xhtml? > is there a way to create valid xhtml-code by cfform?? Heh... I believe you're actually the 2nd person to ask that this morning... Are you referring to the capitalized xhtml elements? I haven't worked with CF7's CFFORM tools myself (I have something better) but I would expect you could make a copy of the default XSL sheet and modify it to produce lower-case elements. Or modify the default XSL sheet. I know the default sheet has a bug in it that causes multiple-select elements to be un-selected if they should be prepopulated with multiple elements selected, so there's a good chance you would need to edit the default XSL sheet anyway. Here's the url for that fix: http://blog.web-shorts.com/?day=3/6/2005 He does mention that it's in _formelements.xsl ... although offhand I don't know where that file is located... I'd expect it's under the cfusionmx webroot directory somewhere but it's probably documented in the livedocs. http://livedocs.macromedia.com hth s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210343 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
xhtml and cfform flash
Hi, what about flash-forms and valid xhtml? is there a way to create valid xhtml-code by cfform?? -- Sebastian Mork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:210338 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
