[cfaussie] Re: CF On MacOS X?

2006-09-07 Thread Lucas
Peter, you are right, on the intel macs it is a little harder but not impossible.there is a great step by step guide here.
http://labs.redbd.net/blog/index.cfm/2006/7/28/CFMX-on-Intel-Macs--The-Definitive-Guide--worked-for-me-L.On 9/7/06, 
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I'm running it locally on my 12 G4 laptop using JRun.Installing it on an intel mac is apparently not as easy as the powerpcsetup. My brother upgraded his laptop recenly and has had all sorts oftrouble trying to get it to work.


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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Mark Stanton

Glad you took that in the spirit it was intended - I thought about
that email last night  cringed about being too harsh... No offence
intended :)

Just came across this this morning -
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/09/07/JRuby-guys - maybe
we'll be able to run ruby code in our CF applications at some point in
the future?

On 9/7/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/7/06, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OMG - another free software consipracy - quick get the DOJ onto it!
 
  Did you know Adobe (formerly Macromedia) have done a devious deal with
  those evil communists at the Apache Foundation to secretly bundle the
  Xerces parser and Axis web services engine with every copy of
  Coldfusion?

   Go on Adobe, top that!
 
  Bleh - Acrobat Reader owz you.


 ROTFLMAO!!

 you're a funny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark! I stand happily ridiculed.

 thanx for cheering up my day. I needed it

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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Barry Beattie

and I apologise to all and sundary for accidently making this the
longest and most obtuce thread on cfaussie. Perhaps I'm a bit too
protective of the fact that I like what I do and the tools I use and
it irks me to throw away good ideas for bad.

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Java

cheers
b


On 9/8/06, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Glad you took that in the spirit it was intended - I thought about
 that email last night  cringed about being too harsh... No offence
 intended :)

 Just came across this this morning -
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/09/07/JRuby-guys - maybe
 we'll be able to run ruby code in our CF applications at some point in
 the future?

 On 9/7/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 9/7/06, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   OMG - another free software consipracy - quick get the DOJ onto it!
  
   Did you know Adobe (formerly Macromedia) have done a devious deal with
   those evil communists at the Apache Foundation to secretly bundle the
   Xerces parser and Axis web services engine with every copy of
   Coldfusion?
 
Go on Adobe, top that!
  
   Bleh - Acrobat Reader owz you.
 
 
  ROTFLMAO!!
 
  you're a funny [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark! I stand happily ridiculed.
 
  thanx for cheering up my day. I needed it
 
  cheers
  b
 
  
 


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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Scott

Barry,

Everyone on this list would agree with about what they love here too. And we
just had a discussion here about Ruby, it might be gaining ground but our
clients are blue chip companies, and one of our developers said the same
thing that Dale did say awhile ago. You can't put Ruby or RonR to a board of
decision makers without extremely good reason to do so.

 
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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Nathan Drury

No need to apologise Barry.  For the most part this has been a healthy
debate about CF and its competitors.  Anyone who relies on CF for their
living should be aware of its competitors and how they compare to CF
(especially how they compare to CF in the eyes of the bean counters and
decision makers).

When I was interviewed for my current job, the Director of ICT told me
that the executives had asked her why we weren't using .Net.  She told
me there was no reason for us to go to .Net but if we HAD to did I know
of a way to get CF to work with .Net.  (I told her about BD and she was
very happy).  There was and still is absolutely no reason for us to
abandon CF for .Net but the execs had heard the hype about it and
wanted to jump on the bandwagon.

It's always been and will continue to be tough to sell CF against the
mega $ might of MS.  With Ruby and Rails, it's now looking like it
might be another tough fight for CF :(


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[cfaussie] Very OT

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Scott

Sorry that this is off topic.

But I know that you all appreciate good art, and this woman is very
talented.

http://www.sandfantasy.com/videoclips/videoclips.htm

 
 
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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Scott

Nathan,

Have to agree as a developer we should all not only be aware of our
competitors but adapt where we can or even leverage if need be.

As far as RonR it's just a fancy term for MVC, ORM and Spring rolled into
one, but hey that's my opinion.
 
 
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[cfaussie] OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Ryan Sabir



Hey all,

Which laptop is the discerning 
web developers laptop of choice these days?

I'm looking to make myself more 
mobile and am wondering which road to head down.

My requirements in order of 
importance are:

 Large 
Screen
 Battery 
life
 Performance Lightweight

What are you guys using? And 
sorry, but it needsto be a PC.. our work environment is very PC oriented 
in terms of software we own and use regularly (Enterprise Mgr, Access, 
Goldmine)

bye!



  
  

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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss



I've been thinking macbookpro running 
parallels.


Regards,

Bjorn 
Schultheiss
Senior Flash 
Developer
QDC 
Technologies



From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan 
SabirSent: Friday, 8 September 2006 11:01 AMTo: 
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laptop?

Hey all,

Which laptop is the discerning 
web developers laptop of choice these days?

I'm looking to make myself more 
mobile and am wondering which road to head down.

My requirements in order of 
importance are:

 Large 
Screen
 Battery 
life
 Performance Lightweight

What are you guys using? And 
sorry, but it needsto be a PC.. our work environment is very PC oriented 
in terms of software we own and use regularly (Enterprise Mgr, Access, 
Goldmine)

bye!



  
  

Ryan 
  SabirTechnical Directorp: (02) 9274 
  8030f: (02) 9274 8099m: 0411 512 
  454w: www.newgency.com

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  Pty LtdWeb | Multimedia | eMarketing224 Riley 
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[cfaussie] CFMX 7 updater 2 - installer troubles on windows

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Mercer
Has any one come across the following error and know what to do? There is not enough free disk space in the temporary folderThere is 25 Gig free on the c driveC:\echo %TEMP%C:\DOCUME~1\andrewm\LOCALS~1\Temp
C:\echo %TMP%C:\DOCUME~1\andrewm\LOCALS~1\Temp

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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Haikal Saadh

Shame that it has to be a PC... a 17 Powerbook/MBP  would fit the bill 
nicely.

It might be worthwhile seeing of there are Mac alternatives to the 
software you use?

I don't know how much of enterprise manager's feature set you need, but 
there are heaps of tools that do what query analyser does.

Don't know about access and goldmine... but for what it's worth, I use 
my powerbook for 99.99% of the work I need to do (CF, java and flash 
development), and for the few odd times I need to use a windows app, 
there's a headless box under my desk that I can remote desktop into.

Ryan Sabir wrote:
 Hey all,
  
 Which laptop is the discerning web developers laptop of choice these days?
  
 I'm looking to make myself more mobile and am wondering which road to 
 head down.
  
 My requirements in order of importance are:
 Large Screen
 Battery life
 Performance
 Lightweight
  
 What are you guys using? And sorry, but it needs to be a PC.. our work 
 environment is very PC oriented in terms of software we own and use 
 regularly (Enterprise Mgr, Access, Goldmine)
  
 bye!
  
  
   Ryan Sabir
 Technical Director

 *p:* (02) 9274 8030
 *f:* (02) 9274 8099
 *m:* 0411 512 454
 *w:* www.newgency.com http://www.newgency.com/  *Newgency Pty 
 Ltd*
 Web | Multimedia | eMarketing

 224 Riley St
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 Sydney, Australia

  

 

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[cfaussie] Re: CFMX 7 updater 2 - installer troubles on windows

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Scott








It depends on what you are trying to do at
the time of the error?





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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Toby Tremayne
I use a 17 inch macbook pro, and I absolutely love it.  It has the power of unix if you need it, it has the ease of use of mac software and hardware and with parallels I can comfortably run windows and windows apps at full speed.  Under parallels win2k and winxp run faster than they did on the desktop I just upgraded from.	I currently have parallels virtual machines for every client environment I work on, and it makes my life s much easier.  There's nothing I need to run that I can't run on this machine, including visual db design apps under windows etc.TobyOn 08/09/2006, at 11:10 AM, Haikal Saadh wrote:Shame that it has to be a PC... a 17" Powerbook/MBP  would fit the bill nicely.It might be worthwhile seeing of there are Mac alternatives to the software you useiI don't know how much of enterprise manager's feature set you need, but there are heaps of tools that do what query analyser does.Don't know about access and goldmine... but for what it's worth, I use my powerbook for 99.99% of the work I need to do (CF, java and flash development), and for the few odd times I need to use a windows app, there's a headless box under my desk that I can remote desktop into.Ryan Sabir wrote: Hey all,Which laptop is the discerning web developers laptop of choice these days?I'm looking to make myself more mobile and am wondering which road to head down.My requirements in order of importance are:    Large Screen    Battery life    Performance    LightweightWhat are you guys using? And sorry, but it needs to be a PC.. our work environment is very PC oriented in terms of software we own and use regularly (Enterprise Mgr, Access, Goldmine)bye!	Ryan SabirTechnical Director*p:* (02) 9274 8030*f:* (02) 9274 8099*m:* 0411 512 454*w:* www.newgency.com http://www.newgency.com/ 		*Newgency Pty Ltd*Web | Multimedia | eMarketing224 Riley StSurry Hills NSW 2010Sydney, Australia  -- Haikal SaadhApplications ProgrammerICT Resources, TALSSQUT Kelvin Grove

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[cfaussie] Re: CFMX 7 updater 2 - installer troubles on windows

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Mercer
I am not sure what you are asking - I was trying to install the updater??Do you mean what else is running on my machine?It is saying disk space - so I dont think this would be an issue.
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It depends on what you are trying to do at
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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Peter Tilbrook
I have a great Acer Ferrari F3400 notebook. AMD Athlon 64, 1Gb RAM and built-in wireless. It rocks!

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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Yep!On 08/09/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





That ferrari notebook looks pretty 
cool..
Is that the one with the carbon-fibre hood on 
it?

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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Robin Hilliard
I was going to upgrade my PowerBook G4 but am now delaying a month to see if the Merom 64-bit version is about to be announced - now THAT is going to be a seriously high performance laptop :-)Parallels is a completely serious option - 3 or so students in my Flex 2 class were using it to run FlexBuilder2, and it was faster than some of the native desktops in the classroom.  I also notice that VMware has just announced a beta for Intel Macs.  You could also just install Windows on the boot sector - the Apple hardware is nice enough in itself.Was thinking 15" or 17" Macbook - would go with 17" but apparently battery usage is a bit higher.RobinDisclaimer: RocketBoots are an Apple reseller $-)  On 08/09/2006, at 11:04 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:  I've been thinking macbookpro running parallels.     Regards,   Bjorn Schultheiss Senior Flash Developer QDC Technologies
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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Brett Payne-Rhodes

Hi Ryan,

I've just upgraded to a new Toshiba Satellite A100. I got a good deal on the 
price but it has a dual core processor, 1GB of memory, 80GB disk and a 
wide(ish) screen. Running XP pro. Not very heavy but the standard battery life 
is only about 3 hours, though I think you can buy an extended life battery.

Compared to the old machine it is fantastic, but I tend to run things past 
their use by date and I'd had the last one since 2000. It served me well but 
you can imagine the spec...

Cheers,

Brett
B)

Ryan Sabir wrote:
 Hey all,
  
 Which laptop is the discerning web developers laptop of choice these days?
  
 I'm looking to make myself more mobile and am wondering which road to 
 head down.
  
 My requirements in order of importance are:
 Large Screen
 Battery life
 Performance
 Lightweight
  
 What are you guys using? And sorry, but it needs to be a PC.. our work 
 environment is very PC oriented in terms of software we own and use 
 regularly (Enterprise Mgr, Access, Goldmine)
  
 bye!
  
  
   Ryan Sabir
 Technical Director
 
 *p:* (02) 9274 8030
 *f:* (02) 9274 8099
 *m:* 0411 512 454
 *w:* www.newgency.com http://www.newgency.com/  *Newgency Pty 
 Ltd*
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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss



Hey Robin, I just got this sent to me 
today



  
  

  SOURCES DEEP within Intel tell us 
  everything is going swimmingly for the new MCW cores, but Apple won't 
  produce a laptop with Merom until 2007.
View article...

Regards,

Bjorn 
Schultheiss
Senior Flash 
Developer
QDC 
Technologies



From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin 
HilliardSent: Friday, 8 September 2006 11:45 AMTo: 
cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development 
laptop?
I was going to upgrade my PowerBook G4 but am now delaying a month to 
see if the Merom 64-bit version is about to be announced - now THAT is going to 
be a seriously high performance laptop :-)

Parallels is a completely serious option - 3 or so students in my Flex 2 
class were using it to run FlexBuilder2, and it was faster than some of the 
native desktops in the classroom. I also notice that VMware has just 
announced a beta for Intel Macs. You could also just install Windows on 
the boot sector - the Apple hardware is nice enough in itself.

Was thinking 15" or 17" Macbook - would go with 17" but apparently battery 
usage is a bit higher.

Robin

Disclaimer: RocketBoots are an Apple reseller $-)


On 08/09/2006, at 11:04 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:

  I've been thinking macbookpro running 
  parallels.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Bjorn 
  Schultheiss
  Senior Flash 
  Developer
  QDC 
  Technologies
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[cfaussie] Re: CFMX 7 updater 2 - installer troubles on windows

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Mercer
I shut down all applications and server type services - but still no go.I am going to try the download again...On 9/8/06, Andrew Scott 
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Well I do ask what else might be running
on the machine, I know that there was one time when I was doing an install and
SQL server was running a query on the machine in question and that query just
happened to be chewing up space at the same time.



In my case it was a once off but
frustrating because I knew there was plenty of space on the machine.







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[cfaussie] Re: CFMX 7 updater 2 - installer troubles on windows

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Mercer
H, new download seems to be working fine...On 9/8/06, Andrew Mercer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shut down all applications and server type services - but still no go.I am going to try the download again...
On 9/8/06, Andrew Scott 
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Well I do ask what else might be running
on the machine, I know that there was one time when I was doing an install and
SQL server was running a query on the machine in question and that query just
happened to be chewing up space at the same time.



In my case it was a once off but
frustrating because I knew there was plenty of space on the machine.







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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss

Good question,
Yesterday I heard they were going to be released on the 12th (september).
Today its 2007.

I'm just going of the info I'm hearing.
Havent heard anything else more accurate.


Regards,
 
Bjorn Schultheiss
Senior Flash Developer
QDC Technologies

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Hmm.. I'm putting off upgrading my G4 pb till one of these comes out, but oh
well... 2007's only 3 or 4 months away :D

The question then becomes, when in 2007 will they come out then?

Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
 Hey Robin, I just got this sent to me today
  

 *SOURCES DEEP* within Intel tell us everything is going swimmingly for 
 the new MCW cores, but Apple won't produce a laptop with Merom until 2007.


 View article... 
 http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34222

  
 Regards,
  
 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies
  

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 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

 I was going to upgrade my PowerBook G4 but am now delaying a month to 
 see if the Merom 64-bit version is about to be announced - now THAT is 
 going to be a seriously high performance laptop :-)

 Parallels is a completely serious option - 3 or so students in my Flex
 2 class were using it to run FlexBuilder2, and it was faster than some 
 of the native desktops in the classroom.  I also notice that VMware 
 has just announced a beta for Intel Macs.  You could also just install 
 Windows on the boot sector - the Apple hardware is nice enough in itself.

 Was thinking 15 or 17 Macbook - would go with 17 but apparently 
 battery usage is a bit higher.

 Robin

 Disclaimer: RocketBoots are an Apple reseller $-)


 On 08/09/2006, at 11:04 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:

 I've been thinking macbookpro running parallels.
  
  
 Regards,
  
 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies



 

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[cfaussie] Re: CFMX 7 updater 2 - installer troubles on windows

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Scott








Corrupt download then.





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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Chris Velevitch

On 9/6/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It would be of interest to get his take on this discussion.
 Any questions you want me to ask him feel free to post in here.
 and I'll ask him.

Given that a number companies are now giving away, for free, their
propriety products for limited use, when is Adobe going to jump on the
bandwagon with JRun and Coldfusion? Well, actually I currently know of
only one application server that's now free: the IBM WebSphere
Application Server Community Edition, but number of database vendors
are doing it: IBM DB2, Oracle, Microsoft. What Adobe's position on
this?


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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Haikal Saadh

Mind you, these are still mostly rumours and speculation... who knows? 
We might just get them this year...

I will be getting one when they come out, whenever that is. 

I wonder if Rocketboots will do us a good deal? I'm sure there are quite 
a few people on this list who are interested. :D



Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
 Good question,
 Yesterday I heard they were going to be released on the 12th (september).
 Today its 2007.

 I'm just going of the info I'm hearing.
 Havent heard anything else more accurate.


 Regards,
  
 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies

 -Original Message-
 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Haikal Saadh
 Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 12:05 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?


 Hmm.. I'm putting off upgrading my G4 pb till one of these comes out, but oh
 well... 2007's only 3 or 4 months away :D

 The question then becomes, when in 2007 will they come out then?

 Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
   
 Hey Robin, I just got this sent to me today
  

 *SOURCES DEEP* within Intel tell us everything is going swimmingly for 
 the new MCW cores, but Apple won't produce a laptop with Merom until 2007.


 View article... 
 http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34222

  
 Regards,
  
 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies
  

 --
 --
 *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *On Behalf Of *Robin Hilliard
 *Sent:* Friday, 8 September 2006 11:45 AM
 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

 I was going to upgrade my PowerBook G4 but am now delaying a month to 
 see if the Merom 64-bit version is about to be announced - now THAT is 
 going to be a seriously high performance laptop :-)

 Parallels is a completely serious option - 3 or so students in my Flex
 2 class were using it to run FlexBuilder2, and it was faster than some 
 of the native desktops in the classroom.  I also notice that VMware 
 has just announced a beta for Intel Macs.  You could also just install 
 Windows on the boot sector - the Apple hardware is nice enough in itself.

 Was thinking 15 or 17 Macbook - would go with 17 but apparently 
 battery usage is a bit higher.

 Robin

 Disclaimer: RocketBoots are an Apple reseller $-)


 On 08/09/2006, at 11:04 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:

 
 I've been thinking macbookpro running parallels.
  
  
 Regards,
  
 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies
   

 

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 Applications Programmer
 ICT Resources, TALSS
 QUT Kelvin Grove



 
   

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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Haikal Saadh

I think the Java AS and database market has become a bit commodotised. 
They all do more or less the same thing. I don't see why anyone would 
pay for JRun... JBoss does the same thing for free.

CF, on the other hand, is a different kettle of fish...  The code in 
that uncyclopedia link posted earlier is actually not too far from the 
truth, as far as the stuffing around you need to do with to get most 
java technology working.  CF makes using java technology (and in turn, 
software development) easy. If Adobe gave away CF for free, where would 
they get money from?

Chris Velevitch wrote:
 On 9/6/06, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 It would be of interest to get his take on this discussion.
   
 Any questions you want me to ask him feel free to post in here.
 and I'll ask him.
 

 Given that a number companies are now giving away, for free, their
 propriety products for limited use, when is Adobe going to jump on the
 bandwagon with JRun and Coldfusion? Well, actually I currently know of
 only one application server that's now free: the IBM WebSphere
 Application Server Community Edition, but number of database vendors
 are doing it: IBM DB2, Oracle, Microsoft. What Adobe's position on
 this?


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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Peter Tilbrook
On 08/09/06, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the Java AS and database market has become a bit commodotised.They all do more or less the same thing. I don't see why anyone wouldpay for JRun... JBoss does the same thing for free.
Yeah but JBoss isn't supported for ColdFusion yet (it will be with Scorpio though).

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[cfaussie] Re: Why buy into CF?

2006-09-07 Thread Chris Velevitch

On 9/8/06, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 software development) easy. If Adobe gave away CF for free, where would
 they get money from?

I guess the same way that IBM, Oracle and Microsoft are making their money.


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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss

Yeah count me in as 1 of them 


Regards,
 
Bjorn Schultheiss
Senior Flash Developer
QDC Technologies

-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Haikal Saadh
Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 12:26 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?


Mind you, these are still mostly rumours and speculation... who knows? 
We might just get them this year...

I will be getting one when they come out, whenever that is. 

I wonder if Rocketboots will do us a good deal? I'm sure there are quite a
few people on this list who are interested. :D



Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
 Good question,
 Yesterday I heard they were going to be released on the 12th (september).
 Today its 2007.

 I'm just going of the info I'm hearing.
 Havent heard anything else more accurate.


 Regards,
  
 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies

 -Original Message-
 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
 Of Haikal Saadh
 Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 12:05 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?


 Hmm.. I'm putting off upgrading my G4 pb till one of these comes out, but
oh
 well... 2007's only 3 or 4 months away :D

 The question then becomes, when in 2007 will they come out then?

 Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
   
 Hey Robin, I just got this sent to me today
  

 *SOURCES DEEP* within Intel tell us everything is going swimmingly for 
 the new MCW cores, but Apple won't produce a laptop with Merom until
2007.


 View article... 
 http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34222

  
 Regards,
  
 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies
  

 --
 --
 *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *On Behalf Of *Robin Hilliard
 *Sent:* Friday, 8 September 2006 11:45 AM
 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

 I was going to upgrade my PowerBook G4 but am now delaying a month to 
 see if the Merom 64-bit version is about to be announced - now THAT is 
 going to be a seriously high performance laptop :-)

 Parallels is a completely serious option - 3 or so students in my Flex
 2 class were using it to run FlexBuilder2, and it was faster than some 
 of the native desktops in the classroom.  I also notice that VMware 
 has just announced a beta for Intel Macs.  You could also just install 
 Windows on the boot sector - the Apple hardware is nice enough in itself.

 Was thinking 15 or 17 Macbook - would go with 17 but apparently 
 battery usage is a bit higher.

 Robin

 Disclaimer: RocketBoots are an Apple reseller $-)


 On 08/09/2006, at 11:04 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:

 
 I've been thinking macbookpro running parallels.
  
  
 Regards,
  
 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies
   

 

 --
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 Applications Programmer
 ICT Resources, TALSS
 QUT Kelvin Grove



 
   

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[cfaussie] OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss

Man a 14.1 monitor, uuh,
Programmer please,...

I have never been a mac guy, 
But the idea of running windows on mac, yeah it works for me...

So does the idea of a half decent leg warmer for those cold winter nights...
Hehe...


Regards,
 
Bjorn Schultheiss
Senior Flash Developer
QDC Technologies

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mark Mandel
Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 1:40 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?


Ahh.. you mac people... ;o)

I've been running around my Tablet PC for ages - Toshiba M200...
hasn't got the power of some of your machines.. but I can download comics
onto mine and read them in bed, like a book!

And write on it with my pen... n' stuff...

Take that you guys! ;o)

I'd love one of the new Toshiba R20s... yummy
http://www.isd.toshiba.com.au/71/live.dll/topic/content/pu_prod_details.jsp?
BV_SessionID=1263521768.1157686589BV_EngineID=addikjegmlecefece
kfdffhdfgi.0PRODOID=77677CATOID=-8156
(Dunno what's up with the huge image tho)

Mark


On 9/8/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah count me in as 1 of them


 Regards,

 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies

 -Original Message-
 From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Haikal Saadh
 Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 12:26 PM
 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?


 Mind you, these are still mostly rumours and speculation... who knows?
 We might just get them this year...

 I will be getting one when they come out, whenever that is.

 I wonder if Rocketboots will do us a good deal? I'm sure there are 
 quite a few people on this list who are interested. :D



 Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
  Good question,
  Yesterday I heard they were going to be released on the 12th
(september).
  Today its 2007.
 
  I'm just going of the info I'm hearing.
  Havent heard anything else more accurate.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Bjorn Schultheiss
  Senior Flash Developer
  QDC Technologies
 
  -Original Message-
  From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On
 Behalf
  Of Haikal Saadh
  Sent: Friday, 8 September 2006 12:05 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?
 
 
  Hmm.. I'm putting off upgrading my G4 pb till one of these comes 
  out, but
 oh
  well... 2007's only 3 or 4 months away :D
 
  The question then becomes, when in 2007 will they come out then?
 
  Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
 
  Hey Robin, I just got this sent to me today
 
 
  *SOURCES DEEP* within Intel tell us everything is going swimmingly 
  for the new MCW cores, but Apple won't produce a laptop with Merom 
  until
 2007.
 
 
  View article...
  http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34222
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Bjorn Schultheiss
  Senior Flash Developer
  QDC Technologies
 
 
  ---
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *On Behalf Of *Robin Hilliard
  *Sent:* Friday, 8 September 2006 11:45 AM
  *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?
 
  I was going to upgrade my PowerBook G4 but am now delaying a month 
  to see if the Merom 64-bit version is about to be announced - now 
  THAT is going to be a seriously high performance laptop :-)
 
  Parallels is a completely serious option - 3 or so students in my 
  Flex
  2 class were using it to run FlexBuilder2, and it was faster than 
  some of the native desktops in the classroom.  I also notice that 
  VMware has just announced a beta for Intel Macs.  You could also 
  just install Windows on the boot sector - the Apple hardware is nice
enough in itself.
 
  Was thinking 15 or 17 Macbook - would go with 17 but apparently 
  battery usage is a bit higher.
 
  Robin
 
  Disclaimer: RocketBoots are an Apple reseller $-)
 
 
  On 08/09/2006, at 11:04 AM, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
 
 
  I've been thinking macbookpro running parallels.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Bjorn Schultheiss
  Senior Flash Developer
  QDC Technologies
 
 
 
 
  --
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  Applications Programmer
  ICT Resources, TALSS
  QUT Kelvin Grove
 
 
 
  
 

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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Mark Mandel

But you can write on it! and make it flat to read stuff on it...

I tell you.. it's cool...

(I feel like I'm not going to win this one)

Mark

On 9/8/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Man a 14.1 monitor, uuh,
 Programmer please,...

 I have never been a mac guy,
 But the idea of running windows on mac, yeah it works for me...

 So does the idea of a half decent leg warmer for those cold winter nights...
 Hehe...


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 QDC Technologies

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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Haikal Saadh

I know it's an apples to oranges comparison (ha!) but while we're 
tossing dirt on this grave...

Funny that the 15 MBP is slightly lighter and about 1cm thinner.

Oh, and on an related note: Toshiba gets a medal for one of the worst 
websites ever...
* Links break because of a session ID... how are you meant to show 
things to your friends?
* Need to dig through an (ugly) PDF to find any specs
* And what's with that big image? Do they have aspirations to be one of 
those papercraft sites 
(http://www.google.com.au/search?q=papercraftsourceid=mozilla2ie=utf-8oe=utf-8)?

Let the Friday afternoon OTness continue...

Mark Mandel wrote:
 But you can write on it! and make it flat to read stuff on it...

 I tell you.. it's cool...

 (I feel like I'm not going to win this one)

 Mark

 On 9/8/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Man a 14.1 monitor, uuh,
 Programmer please,...

 I have never been a mac guy,
 But the idea of running windows on mac, yeah it works for me...

 So does the idea of a half decent leg warmer for those cold winter nights...
 Hehe...


 Regards,

 Bjorn Schultheiss
 Senior Flash Developer
 QDC Technologies
 

   

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[cfaussie] Re: OT: Best development laptop?

2006-09-07 Thread Haikal Saadh

Now give us stuff! :D

Robin Hilliard wrote:
 :-)  Thanks for the shameless plug...

 __

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 On 08/09/2006, at 12:26 PM, Haikal Saadh wrote:

   
 I wonder if Rocketboots will do us a good deal? I'm sure there are  
 quite
 a few people on this list who are interested. :D
 


 
   

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